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My motherboard bios doesnt have LLC or Vdroop option, yet it keeps throttling my core clocks and voltage, how do I get around

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November 4, 2013 9:32:51 AM

Title pretty much explains it. It is hard for me to play games when every 30 seconds my core clock goes from 4.6g to 1.4g and bogs the system and drops my fps down to single digits.

My build:

AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W
ASRock 970 PRO3 R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX850M 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92
2x Crossfired XFX HD-685X-ZNBC Radeon HD 6850 Black Edition 1GB 256-bit DDR5
Kingston HyperX 3K SH103S3/120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive

I have updated everything from drivers to bios and disabled all the other power saving options, still cant seem to find it and the spike is really annoying, please any help if you could :) 

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November 4, 2013 9:35:25 AM

Are you sure you disabled ALL the power saving options? There are so freaking many...
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November 4, 2013 9:35:28 AM

Are you sure you disabled ALL the power saving options? There are so freaking many...
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November 4, 2013 9:39:09 AM

Yes I have pretty much disabled everything in the bios with power in the description.
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November 4, 2013 9:46:18 AM

Well it doesn't always have power in the description. Did you turn off cool n' quiet?
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November 4, 2013 9:48:07 AM

Yes
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November 4, 2013 10:06:58 AM

Might be worth hitting the Power Options in Windows and selecting the High Performance power plan when you are gaming. You can further customize the plan and dictate the Minimum Processor State when using that power plan. Telling Windows your intentions can go a long way as to how it attempts to run your hardware. :-)

Don't forget to switch back to Balanced, or Power Saver when you are finished gaming, unless you don't mind your computer being particularly wasteful when it doesn't need to be.

If you find that switching power profiles cures the processor state dropping, you may wish to have easier access to switching between your different power profiles in Windows.

For my own purposes, I found it handy to create a pair of shortcuts on my Desktop that switch between the High Performance and Balanced power profiles.

To create the shortcut, you need the GUID name of each profile you wish to switch to.

Open a Command Prompt window and type, powercfg /list.

This will list out each power profile and it's associated GUID name.

Now, all you need to do is create a new shortcut with this information.

When you are presented with the textbox Type the location of the item: Type, powercfg -setactive followed by the GUID of the power profile you wish to make the shortcut to.

For example, my shortcut I have created for the Balanced power profile on my system reads like this, C:\Windows\System32\powercfg.exe -setactive 381b4222-f694-41f0-9685-ff5bb260df2e.

Notice the full address to the powercfg command is included by Windows in the shortcut after you have created it, but you need only type powercfg when creating the shortcut.

This gives you a handy means of switching Windows power profiles by a simple double-click.
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November 4, 2013 10:16:39 AM

I already have it on High Performance and i dont have an option to dictate minimum processor state, i thought that was only for laptops?

Thank you guys for your help too btw
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November 4, 2013 10:28:04 AM

You should be able to Change advanced power settings, for each power profile.

That will bring up a list of options you can expand.

You are looking for Processor power management.

In that category you should have Minimum processor state, System cooling policy, and Maximum processor state.

Just verify or set the minimum processor state to 100%.
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November 4, 2013 10:29:11 AM

The only option that I have in there is System cooling policy. Nothing else under Processor power management.
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November 4, 2013 10:35:33 AM

Are you performing any sort of selective startup for Windows, such as using msconfig to limit your processor count? This can apparently lead to the options being missing...

I found the setting under msconfig's Boot tab. Clicking on Advanced options... brings up a dialog with a check box for Number of processors. This needs to be unchecked.
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November 4, 2013 10:42:55 AM

Yes i was, changed that back to normal and restarted and the options are still not there.

Went into msconfig and the option for number of processors is unchecked
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November 4, 2013 11:14:53 AM

I did find an option in bios that say "Current APM Status : Disabled" I cant change it at all, could that be effecting anything?

And if it is, how do I change it if it wont let me select it?
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November 4, 2013 11:19:19 AM

APM sounds like legacy power management to me. I would stick with ACPI, if you have it. Furthermore, I would not deactivate any of your power options in the BIOS. I would enable Cool 'n Quiet, C1E, HPET, etc., and all of the power features, before attempting to use the power profiles to any effect. You may inadvertently be disabling Windows' ability to control your power states through your BIOS settings.

I would also ensure msconfig is set to Normal startup.
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November 4, 2013 11:25:02 AM

If you disable the LLC (load line calibration) your overall amperage to the cpu will increase and you will really notice the heat from that cpu so you are better off leaving it as it is. To disable it you will need to deal with one or more resistors on your board either by shading it with a pencil or changing the resistor. Some boards are better than others and have better LLC circuit so they are more stable and waste less power.
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November 4, 2013 11:29:32 AM

Alright by enabling all of those options, I have gained the power features back, but even when i have minimum processor set at 100% it still dips down to .8v and 1.4ghz...
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November 4, 2013 11:34:39 AM

Its your board but give throttle stop a try and force the cpu to max multiplier (works even on laptops).
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November 4, 2013 11:46:47 AM

Im sorry, I am grateful for your help, but i dont understand what it is exactly you want me to do.
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November 4, 2013 11:58:47 AM

Some motherboards have the clock multiplier set to auto. Try to change it to manual and force a constant multiplier.
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November 4, 2013 12:06:00 PM

Yea done that, been at 21x this whole time.

I just want my games to run smooth :( 
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November 4, 2013 12:31:36 PM

Reading all the tips here, either something very little is messing up all, or your motherboard have problems. Give the motherboard model please.
EDIT: got it, your motherboard seems fine and enought for that processor.
How much time did you installed your system? Maybe some program has setup a custom power saving feature?
If you have this, we can skip the windows option: http://s17.postimg.org/kt9hv8ynj/scr_1383597401.jpg

Edit 2: Check your AMD catalyst control panel so the settings are like this:
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November 4, 2013 2:03:29 PM

i still have the stock cooling fan with the processor, and I decided to under clock the voltage and it fixed the problem, the temps were probably running too high, but HWmonitor wasn't recording them as high as the bios was. So thanks guys for your help, off to get a 212 evo :) 
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November 4, 2013 2:28:52 PM

Cool, glad you got it sorted! :-)
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