Installing a new motherboard... need help

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Here was my original issue: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1853593/monitor-shuts-randomly-asap-work.html

which seems to have boiled down to the motherboard.. which is probably my most inexperienced area.

My computer is: http://h20566.www2.hp.com/portal/site/hpsc/template.PAGE/public/kb/docDisplay/?sp4ts.oid=5080764&spf_p.tpst=kbDocDisplay&spf_p.prp_kbDocDisplay=wsrp-navigationalState%3DdocId%253Demr_na-c02839589-28%257CdocLocale%253D%257CcalledBy%253D&javax.portlet.begCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken&javax.portlet.endCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken

That I moved into an Antec 902 case and swapped the power supply with a Corsair GS700 and the graphics card with a GTX 560 TI


I need a new motherboard but I'm lost.. How do I know what will be compatible with my wireless card and stuff? Will my cpu fan fit or does the new mobo come with one? Will my cpu chip fit? If my sound card is integrated do I need to buy another one? Obviously to get the motherboard in the new case I had to "install it" but what I really mean is how do I setup everything on it?

All of the parts of the computer are well documented by HP in the link above, itd be great if someone could please walk me through this!


And also, how much would all this cost?! I was hoping under $100 but if not I guess ill have to wait even longer before I get a new graphics card
 
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Yes you need to do it again after you install a new MB, otherwise the drivers and controllers will not match, and you will be getting BSOD's.

And you have to replace the PSU, if you want a modern day GPU and want to play modern day games. Here is a decent PSU and will serve all your needs.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $54.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 14:42 EST-0500)

But I don't know if it will fit on your case/cabinet. So make calculations first if you intend to...
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thanks !



Ok so for the wireless card id have to get something like an asus pce slot card?


I don't think that cpu fan would fit. What other options are there? I do game alot also but I don't want to spend too much
 
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If you want to replace the MB I can suggest you this :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $74.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 14:18 EST-0500)

Here is the specs :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157303&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

1. The MB has a LAN port if you need it.
2. No the CPU fan will not fit. And no, MB's do not come with CPU fans. CPU fan (HSF) comes with CPU only.
3. Yes the board has integrated sound, if you wish you could buy a sound card.
4. Yes you need to install the MB on the case/cabinet. And you need to repair-install or clean install the OS as well with a new MB. If you are not comfortable enough to install the MB a PC tech can help you, or we will help you to do the job.
 
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Thanks very much for the suggestion

I reinstalled windows yesterday, do I still need to do it again? I did it through the HP recovery, is this ok?



Would you happen to have a suggestion on a wireless card also?

 
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Yes you need to do it again after you install a new MB, otherwise the drivers and controllers will not match, and you will be getting BSOD's.

And you have to replace the PSU, if you want a modern day GPU and want to play modern day games. Here is a decent PSU and will serve all your needs.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $54.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 14:42 EST-0500)

But I don't know if it will fit on your case/cabinet. So make calculations first if you intend to buy it.

Here is a wireless card :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $39.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 14:46 EST-0500)
 
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Ok thanks!


And yes I already replaced the PSU like I said in the original post I replaced the original power supply with a Corsair gs700 750w (the case was also changed to an Antec 902 incase you missed that also)

I have been playing games on it for a year or so now I just think the low grade mobo can't hold up anymore

 
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Now about reinstalling the OS, after I replace the motherboard is there a quick way to make sure everything is hooked up right?

When I reinstall windows can I still do F11 at startup and go through the hp recovery manager to go back to factory settings?
 
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Yes double check every connections, or bread board it first, then do the final installation. Here is a guide may help you : I know its off topic :

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-perform-steps-posting-post-boot-video-problems

My biggest fear is your cabinet's front panel's wiring. Some OEM cabinets has custom wiring's to fit only vendors MB, and not any other MB(retail).

I think it would be better if you do a clean install of OS instead of repair-install, with a new MB. F11 may also work at least I hope so.

 
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Bread board means = to assemble the system outside the case. Like MB, CPU, one stick of RAM, GPU and monitor, if it give display then you are good to go, and peacefully place the components inside the case/cabinet.

With Antec 902 case you will have no problem.

Its known as Thermal Paste. You have to place it in between CPU and HSF. You will find many tutorials online about how to do it.

I will be back in half an hour, if you need me.
 
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As i sad :
What you can`t keep is :
- you CAN`T KEEP YOU HP CPU-FAN - you have to order new one - this one is on my taste :
http://www.dekada.com/catalog/arctic-cooling-%D0%BE%D1%...

and again the lonewolf7 sad :
2. No the CPU fan will not fit. And no, MB's do not come with CPU fans. CPU fan (HSF) comes with CPU only.


"Is the paste included with the fan? Or will I need to get some?


Oops you said my fan will fit I forgot. Since im using the same cpu chip and the same fan do I need more paste? "

NO - you need new CPU FAN and you must use NEW thermal paste - if you don`t have one coming with the FAN just order ....... it`s not worth killing Panda for it :)

 
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This one is too big i think.

i advise you to go for this one - as i already have link you in my first post ...
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/arctic-cooling-cpu-cooler-freezer7prorev2

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you linked me to beep codes?

The one in your first post looks big also though


would my stock cooler master cm12v fit? id prefer not to buy a new fan right now
 
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The link is working just fine, check it again. Here is a second link for same product : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007

And forget about what HP says, you are not using their MB and case, so it doesn't matter.

If you didn't purchased anything yet then consider a ATX MB which is bigger than Micro ATX(uATX), and all the components will fit in it easily.

Here is the best board for LGA 1155 socket and under $100 with a discount :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $99.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-06 12:56 EST-0500)

And get that CM Hyper 212 Evo HSF this is bang for bucks.





 
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I mean't HP didn't list what type of fan is currently on the motherboard

It can be removed, its a cooler master cm12v. Would this fit on http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157303&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

so I don't have to buy a new fan?

If my stock fan doesn't fit ill get the 212, this thread says it fits in a 902: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1775526


Also, would it be easier and cheaper just to get a usb wifi dongle instead of a pce slot wifi card?
 
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As I said earlier with a uATX MB there are many if's and but's, and its hard to tell if the HSF will fit or not and same goes to GPU, cause that is a tiny MB. So I suggest you to buy a standard size ATX MB and have peace of mind for only few extra bucks. Any thing will fit there.

And you are the one to best judge the pricing for a dongle or a PCI wifi card. Both will work. its your call.

 
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The motherboard that's currently in there support my GTX 560 TI and the cooler master cm12v, and its also micro atx

perhaps if I save enough on the wifi card by switching to a dongle I will just get the standard atx. Are you familiar with dongles? Do you have any suggestions?

 
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yep - wrong link - edited

i give up on this treat you know ......
Post picture on you curent FAN - the HP one .....
 
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