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November 5, 2013 11:10:02 AM

In order to see and feel 60fps in a game, I can get a 60hz monitor but can i get say 100fps on a 60hz monitor with FEELING and SEEING IT SAY i am over 100 fps on fraps or do i need a 120hz monitor so i can get over 60fps?

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November 5, 2013 11:12:18 AM

To get 100FPS you would need a 120Hz monitor, most people cannot tell the difference between 60FPS and 100FPS, but some people may notice a small difference, it is personal preference, if you can find a good deal on a 120Hz/144Hz monitor go for it. If not a nice 60Hz monitor would be fine
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November 5, 2013 11:13:24 AM

You will not "see" anything over 60 FPS on a 60 Hz monitor. Perceived framerate cannot be higher than the monitor's refresh rate since a monitor can't display more frames per second than its refresh rate.
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November 5, 2013 11:13:54 AM

Frames per second and hertz (refreshing rate) are not equal to each other.

You can even go to 80~100 fps regardless the refreshing rate being 60hz or 120hz.
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November 5, 2013 11:15:18 AM

You need a monitor with higher refresh rates if you want to take advantage of higher FPS is what I am trying to say
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November 5, 2013 11:16:24 AM

IAMEXTREME said:
Frames per second and hertz (refreshing rate) are not equal to each other.

You can even go to 80~100 fps regardless the refreshing rate being 60hz or 120hz.



The other 2 say you cant...now who is right? You guys should all have the same answer
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November 5, 2013 11:16:59 AM

IAMEXTREME said:
Frames per second and hertz (refreshing rate) are not equal to each other.

You can even go to 80~100 fps regardless the refreshing rate being 60hz or 120hz.


You are both right. His system will happily run at over 60fps but a 60Hz can only present him with 60 pictures a second so there would be no visible difference
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November 5, 2013 11:18:18 AM

Bottom line: Anything over 60 FPS is wasted on a 60 Hz monitor. To visually perceive a framerate of X you will need a monitor with a refresh rate greater than or equal to X.
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November 5, 2013 11:18:39 AM

If you open up FRAPS or something similar it may say you are running your game above 60fps but you won't be able to see this difference unless your monitors refresh rate is above that number.
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November 5, 2013 11:18:43 AM

^Absolutely.

The point is visibile difference!

There will be no visibile difference on a 60Hz monitor if you are having 60~100 or beyond fps.

To feel a difference, get a 120Hz monitor.
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November 5, 2013 11:19:21 AM

Aww :(  Send me a link to a cheap but good 120hz monitor please
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November 5, 2013 11:20:09 AM

Your computer may say 120FPS on a 60Hz monitor but it is not physically showing that. You need higher refresh rate. Understand? :) 
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November 5, 2013 11:21:18 AM

patrick47018 said:
Your computer may say 120FPS on a 60Hz monitor but it is not physically showing that. You need higher refresh rate. Understand? :) 


Correct.
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November 5, 2013 11:21:24 AM

patrick47018 said:
Your computer may say 120FPS on a 60Hz monitor but it is not physically showing that. You need higher refresh rate. Understand? :) 


yes. Just proving my brother wrong.

Someone send me a link to a good 120hz monitor...not expensive.
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November 5, 2013 11:21:54 AM

Generally speaking, at 1920x1080 your 280X isn't going to go above 60fps on that many titles (assuming you are playing them at High/Ultra settings) so personally I wouldn't bother forking out the extra money on a 120Hz monitor when you will really likely see very little benefit from it, especially in the future as your card ages and games become more graphically demanding.

Now, if you were to decide to CrossFire your GPU and run two 280Xs you would definitely get well over 60fps on current titles and may notice the benefit of the 120Hz monitor
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November 5, 2013 11:23:16 AM

Think of it like this:

Your GPU can render 100 picture frames per second. Your monitor can show you 60 of those 100 frames per second. You will see what the monitor shows you, which is 60 frames per second (which is also called hertz).

Though having more FPS is nice, usually you don't need more than your monitor's refresh rate. One point however is to make sure your GPU is powerful enough to show you those frames without stuttering, lagging, or having fps drops below your refresh rate. AKA if you go into a gaming spot that has a ton of stuff on the screen and you see the lag, it's probably from your GPU going down to a lower FPS than the monitor, which is why it won't match up in timings and will appear to lag or stutter.
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November 5, 2013 11:23:23 AM

Brisingr im sure i will get over 60fps....its the SAPPHIRE TOXIC r9 280x...its the best 280x out there. Speaking of that, patrick, Shipment #1: Preparing for Shipment :D  It changed from not shipped to that now :D 
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November 5, 2013 11:25:53 AM

270$ D:??? das too much....fck it..JK...Lol i dont know....ill save up for one :) 


ok all of you helped so i cant pick one for a best answer :(  it will be too hard.
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a b U Graphics card
November 5, 2013 11:26:17 AM

patrick thats 144hz....i want 120hz. Its good enough and cheaper.
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November 5, 2013 11:27:03 AM

Mirakledba said:
Brisingr im sure i will get over 60fps....its the SAPPHIRE TOXIC r9 280x...its the best 280x out there. Speaking of that, patrick, Shipment #1: Preparing for Shipment :D  It changed from not shipped to that now :D 


Over 60FPS on games like War Thunder, but not like BF4, probably about 60FPS on BF4
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November 5, 2013 11:28:31 AM

patrick47018 said:
Mirakledba said:
Brisingr im sure i will get over 60fps....its the SAPPHIRE TOXIC r9 280x...its the best 280x out there. Speaking of that, patrick, Shipment #1: Preparing for Shipment :D  It changed from not shipped to that now :D 


Over 60FPS on games like War Thunder, but not like BF4, probably about 60FPS on BF4


warthunder? All i need is 60Fps for that...i can smash that. So either will it will be capped up to 60 which is fine. But BF4 i know i wont go over 60 AT ALL TIMES but im sure i will at one point...i just dont want to be limited you know?
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November 5, 2013 11:29:09 AM

Mirakledba said:
patrick thats 144hz....i want 120hz. Its good enough and cheaper.


That's cheaper than the 120Hz I saw
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November 5, 2013 11:30:09 AM

Mirakledba said:
patrick47018 said:
Mirakledba said:
Brisingr im sure i will get over 60fps....its the SAPPHIRE TOXIC r9 280x...its the best 280x out there. Speaking of that, patrick, Shipment #1: Preparing for Shipment :D  It changed from not shipped to that now :D 


Over 60FPS on games like War Thunder, but not like BF4, probably about 60FPS on BF4


warthunder? All i need is 60Fps for that...i can smash that. So either will it will be capped up to 60 which is fine. But BF4 i know i wont go over 60 AT ALL TIMES but im sure i will at one point...i just dont want to be limited you know?


Well 60 is a good number to play at, at least for me
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November 5, 2013 11:30:15 AM

Ok which one of you have a 60hz monitor but can run on over 60 and dont mind? and who has 120hz?
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November 5, 2013 11:30:57 AM

patrick47018 said:
Mirakledba said:
Brisingr im sure i will get over 60fps....its the SAPPHIRE TOXIC r9 280x...its the best 280x out there. Speaking of that, patrick, Shipment #1: Preparing for Shipment :D  It changed from not shipped to that now :D 


Over 60FPS on games like War Thunder, but not like BF4, probably about 60FPS on BF4


That is what I am saying. I have a GTX 770 which is (roughly) comparable to the 280X and HD7970 and yes, you'll see 70/80fps in most games for a while, but not long enough to warrant a 120Hz monitor in my opinion.

On Battlefield 4 at 1080p Ultra your card will be looking at 55/60fps max
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Anonymous
November 5, 2013 11:31:45 AM

Mine are both 60Hz
60fps is fine in my opinion
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November 5, 2013 11:32:07 AM

I have 60Hz monitor and limit my FPS to 60
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November 5, 2013 11:33:22 AM

hm...ok for BF4 60hz is fine but if i run over 60hz like on warthunder ( which i will ), it will be full settings and i would get like 100fps so will it cap it so THAT ALL THE TIME ITS 60fps and never drops?
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November 5, 2013 11:33:30 AM

hm...ok for BF4 60hz is fine but if i run over 60hz like on warthunder ( which i will ), it will be full settings and i would get like 100fps so will it cap it so THAT ALL THE TIME ITS 60fps and never drops?
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November 5, 2013 11:34:26 AM

Mirakledba said:
Ok which one of you have a 60hz monitor but can run on over 60 and dont mind? and who has 120hz?


I have a 75Hz monitor and 120+ fps with OC'd GTX 660 Ti SLI in most of the games.
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November 5, 2013 11:34:32 AM

Thats what I do, I turn on V-Sync and keep it at 60FPS
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November 5, 2013 11:36:42 AM

Actually you will SEE the "over 60fps", You will see the screen tear. HAHAHA But yea, on a 60hz monitor, max is 60fps without screen tearing.
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November 5, 2013 11:40:37 AM

Well thanks guys. Ill just see how much money i have later.... THIS IS THE MONITOR I HAVE NOW...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

What will i get on ultra IN BF4?

hover over pic for specs or just read the grey text right ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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November 5, 2013 11:42:33 AM

At that resolution 75+FPS
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December 6, 2013 7:18:59 AM

You will feel and see tearing at anything above 60fps on a 60Hz monitor. Lock the fps at 60 and it will be smooth and tear free.
On a 120Hz monitor, anything over 60fps but under 120fps will show tiny amounts of stutter as some frames are drawn twice. Again, above 120fps will result in tearing unless you engage v-sync.

One point of note for those that can't muster a solid 60fps; the next step down for smooth stutter-free motion is 30fps (this is why consoles tend to try and lock to 30 or 60). However, with a 120Hz monitor, it also opens up 40fps as a smooth stutter-free option. Likewise, stutter-free 72fps and 48fps are available on a 144Hz monitor. It's all about matching frames rendered to frames displayed, if you want the smoothest output.
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