4770k vs 4820k vs 4930k

unknownofprob · Nov 6, 2013

Hi all, I am going to be building a PC around christmas and I am planning on doing Gaming, 3D Design Work and Game Making. I was wondering which one will do best out of all of them. My budget is semi-tight but I have room for the 4930k. My So far specs of the PC:

-Intel CPU?

-Z87-ASRock Z87 Professional - X79 - ASRock X79 Extreme6 or other

-Gigabyte Radeon HD 7990 6GB

-WD Black 1TB

-Antec HGC-900 900 Watt 80+ Bronze PSU

-Thermaltake Level 10GT Gaming Case Full Tower

-Asus DVD Drive

-Thermaltake FRIO Extreme CPU Cooler

-Bitfenix Fan Controller

Thanks for any replies

unknownofprob · Nov 6, 2013

Sorry My RAM Is Corsair Vengeance Pro series Performance Memory 16GB 1600MHz

Sangeet Khatri · Nov 8, 2013

4930k is better because :

1. It has 12 threads vs 8 threads of the 4820k and the 4770k.

2. 4930k and the 4820k has 40 PCI Express Lanes vs the 16 on the 4770k. It would come in handy when using multiple GPU. The 7990 is already a dual GPU conffiguration.

3. With the two extra cores and 4 extra threads you can expect about 50% better than the 4770k and the 4820k in multi threaded applications.

4. The 4930k and the 4820k is based on the Ivy Bridge Architecture, so it would overclock better than the 4770k and hence you can increase the performance of it extremely by getting a good cooler for about 70 dollars and overclocking it to maximum possible. With the Ivy Bridge you can expect somewhere in the range of 4.6~4.8 (Maybe higher if you are lucky enough)

5. 4930k and the 4820k both can make use of quad channel RAM, hence with quad channel RAM, it would perform better. Wheras the 4770k lacks this. So if you are going with the 4930k then make sure that you go with 4 sticks of RAM. It is important.

4930k v/s 4820k

The advantage which the 4930k has over the 4820k is a big one. It has 50% more threads and hence 50% more performance on the Multi Threaded applications.

If you plan to go with the 4820k, then you should better go with the 4770k instead. They both perform about the same but the 4770k's motherboards being a lot more cheaper.

unknownofprob · Nov 9, 2013

Sangeet Khatri :

4930k is better because :

1. It has 12 threads vs 8 threads of the 4820k and the 4770k.

2. 4930k and the 4820k has 40 PCI Express Lanes vs the 16 on the 4770k. It would come in handy when using multiple GPU. The 7990 is already a dual GPU conffiguration.

3. With the two extra cores and 4 extra threads you can expect about 50% better than the 4770k and the 4820k in multi threaded applications.

4. The 4930k and the 4820k is based on the Ivy Bridge Architecture, so it would overclock better than the 4770k and hence you can increase the performance of it extremely by getting a good cooler for about 70 dollars and overclocking it to maximum possible. With the Ivy Bridge you can expect somewhere in the range of 4.6~4.8 (Maybe higher if you are lucky enough)

5. 4930k and the 4820k both can make use of quad channel RAM, hence with quad channel RAM, it would perform better. Wheras the 4770k lacks this. So if you are going with the 4930k then make sure that you go with 4 sticks of RAM. It is important.

4930k v/s 4820k

The advantage which the 4930k has over the 4820k is a big one. It has 50% more threads and hence 50% more performance on the Multi Threaded applications.

If you plan to go with the 4820k, then you should better go with the 4770k instead. They both perform about the same but the 4770k's motherboards being a lot more cheaper.

I always thought that 6 cores would be better so best answer to you! Thanks for the in-depth response! So what do you think is better for noe two 8GB Sticks or 4 4GB Sticks? I will be having 16GB Ram for a long time and 32 GB Will probably be the limit for a long time.

unknownofprob · Nov 10, 2013

I have been looking around t motherboards and I have seen an ASRock X79 Extreme 7 on ebay for $360. I like it because it looks really cool and it would suite my case. It isn't on the ASRock site but I really like it. It has only 6 ram slots because of those two big casings on either side of the ram. I like the look of it a lot but is there any known issues of it? Why is it discontinued from the ASRock site?

Sangeet Khatri · Nov 10, 2013

Wait.. Just tell me your budget for the Motherboard + CPU + RAM and I would suggest you one. That would be better.

Just because I do not think that spending 350+ dollars on just a motherboard is worth the price.

Better get a 200-250 dollar board instead. That would offer much better value.

So just tell me your budget for CPU+Motherboard+RAM and I would suggest you the best combo in my opinion.

Sangeet Khatri · Nov 10, 2013

Wait.. Just tell me your budget for the Motherboard + CPU + RAM and I would suggest you one. That would be better.

Just because I do not think that spending 350+ dollars on just a motherboard is worth the price.

Better get a 200-250 dollar board instead. That would offer much better value.

So just tell me your budget for CPU+Motherboard+RAM and I would suggest you the best combo in my opinion.

unknownofprob · Nov 12, 2013

Bad news the 7990 is out of stock in the shop I was going to get it from

...... Anyways I am going to get instead two Asus R9 290's non-X as the price difference is $180 and they performance is relatively the same.

My Budget for Motherboard, Ram and CPU is now $1216. I live in Australia and the prices are a lot different over here. I would like to buy my Parts in store and I will need it to be at least $200 cheaper to make way for the new card's I am putting in there.

Website from which I am buying the parts

from:http://msy.com.au/index.jsp

Thanks for the help.

unknownofprob · Nov 13, 2013

Or from Ebay Australia......Only Motherboard though.

Sangeet Khatri · Nov 14, 2013

These are the best parts that you can get for the budget. This should do fine.

+ 6 core, 12 threads 4930k = Beast
+ Awesome Gigabyte Board.
+ 1866Mhz RAM with CL9 (1800Mhz CL9 recommended by Anandtech in their memory roundup.)

unknownofprob · Nov 14, 2013

Sangeet Khatri :

Which Gigabyte Motherboard? UP5s-Wifi? ASRock X79 Extreme6/7?

Sangeet Khatri · Nov 15, 2013

Oops.. sorry I forgot to paste the code from PCpartpicker.com

I would have to plan it once again. Will post soon in about 10-15 minutes as soon as I get time. Sorry for that slight confusion there LOL!

Sangeet Khatri · Nov 15, 2013

Okay, so here are the parts that I forgot to post links to :

+ 6 core, 12 threads 4930k = Beast
+ Awesome Gigabyte Board.
+ 1866Mhz RAM with CL9 (1800Mhz CL9 recommended by Anandtech in their memory roundup.)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($659.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($259.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($189.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $1107.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-15 17:09 EST+1100)

I hope this clears all confusion that you might have had.

Sangeet Khatri · Nov 15, 2013

Have a closer look, it has 8 RAM slots

Also the specs say the same, so get your facts right.

unknownofprob · Nov 15, 2013

Sangeet Khatri :

Yes that motherboard is in stock at the store I am buying it from for $249 in Australia. Is it worth it over ASRock X79 extreme6? I would like the motherboard to be Red or Black because it matches the case but I don't really mind too much. Ram-Isn't anything over 1600MHz ram on Intel Pointless? I will go 1866MHz if it has performance difference but I don't think that it does. I don't really like the Ares Ram because It doesn't match inside, How about 4 G-Skill Ripjawz 4GB 2400MHz Ram or 4 4GB G-Skill Trident-X 1600MHz Ram.

Sangeet Khatri · Nov 15, 2013

I would prefer the Gigabyte board over Asrock anyday.

As for the RAM, sure go for any RAM which suits the look that you want to have. Just make sure that there are 4 sticks. That would ensure better performance for the LGA 2011 socket since it is a quad channel platform.

Just make sure that the RAM matches one of these configurations. If you find one with less CL for the specified speed, then that is better.

--> 1600MHz with CL 9 or lower.
--> 1866 Mhz with CL9 or lower.
--> 2133 Mhz with CL10 or lower.
--> 2400 Mhz with CL11 or lower.

According to me, the ideal RAM config is 1866 Mhz with CL9, but 1600 MHz with CL9 is also great.

In any ways you are not going to get wrong with any of the configs.

The less the Cas Latency (CL), the more is the performance.

The more the clock speed, the more is the performance.

unknownofprob · Nov 16, 2013

Thanks for that, I might go 1866MH but I don't think that that Gigabyte Motherboard would look nice in the case, I am happy to go for that Motherboard as the price is good but I would like the motherboard to be Red or Black as it suits my case best, Any other suggestions?

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