Another 4770k vs 4670k thread.

[eldragon0]

I'm going to be building a new computer as soon as I see the comparison of the aftermarket 290x vs the 290. I've got my entire system set up just down to 4770k or 4670k. I'm quite savvy o the concepts and advantages of the I-7 over the I-5. I DO work with VMware, and a decent amount of Photoshop and Vegas/After effects editing/rendering.
Due to this I'm pointed more to the i7, however most of the usage will be casual and hardcore gaming. I know the i7 will not be advantageous for either of those. (roughly 80% of usage). Any insight on this would be great. Also if anyone could find some comparison graphs for photo shop, or vegas stats. I can't seem to find the one's I've seen before.

 

[Anub1s]

Well, really the question I have is does this decision affect the budget you have left over for other parts?

If this is a simple question of which processor, price being no issue, the i7 is the clear choice. Added L3 cache, and hyper threading are going to help speed up menial tasks and REALLY help out when you're working with Photoshop and the other programs you mentioned.

 

[eldragon0]

Fact is an i7 will be faster in Photoshop, After Effects, rendering etc. and it pretty much comes down to how much you use these programs. If you use them a lot, having an i7 will save you a huge amount of time combined. However if you only use them as a hobby, a video once a week or something, there's really no reason to grab an i7.

Of course if you like to record gameplay as well with Fraps or something, an i7 will also help there to keep the performance from dipping in your games and in your videos.

Gaming and lite video editing an i5 is just fine and dandy.

I was unaware that fraps was written for multi threading. If so this will make another point in the i7's book. I do intend on doing quite a bit of frapsing for battlefield and walkthroughs for PoE. So there will be editing. I'm just trying to validate the 100$ opposed to saving for a second 290 or 290x

 

[RobCrezz]

The i7 will be worth while if you run lots of VMs. Hyper threading is very good with VMs, as each VM is very rarely using 100% of its vCPU resources.

 

[eldragon0]

VM's are really the side thing thought. Not a main focus just for network testing for fun. Video editing however I'm even a bit weary on the i7. What with gpu accelerated rendering, how much of an advantage will the i7 really give over the i5 when you are using a 290x to aid the rendering process? Heres the game plan so far. My wallet says stay under 1.5k

Thermaltake Armor Reveo VO800M1W2N
Seagate Barracuda STBD2000101 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s
RAIDMAX RX-835AP 835W ATX
2x Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
BIOSTAR Hi-Fi Z87X 3D LGA 1150 Intel Z87
Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz
SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 2.5" 128GB SATA III
SAPPHIRE 100362SR Radeon R9 290
$1,454.00 ( after tax and shipping)

 

[RobCrezz]

Never heard of RAIDMAX PSUs, so I would change that for a Corsair or Seasonic. Not a fan of biostar mobos either, so look at Asus/Gigabyte.

Pick a good cooler too, no point having the K cpu without a good cooler. Also, I would pick the 840 Evo over the pro, I dont think the Pro is worth the extra money.

 

[eldragon0]

Never heard of RAIDMAX PSUs, so I would change that for a Corsair or Seasonic. Not a fan of biostar mobos either, so look at Asus/Gigabyte.

Pick a good cooler too, no point having the K cpu without a good cooler. Also, I would pick the 840 Evo over the pro, I dont think the Pro is worth the extra money.

I appreciate the input, but those are both parts I'm actually quite solid on. I also have an aftermarket cooler already. Again this topic is on i7 vs i5. I wanted to throw the specs up for clarification on and to give an idea of my build for input on which way to go. However it might come down to the 290x performance with an aftermarket heat sink. If its consistently 20% faster as some non throttling situations have shown ill go with that and the 4670k if its only 5-10% faster as others have shown ill probably go with the 4770k and a 290.

 

[RobCrezz]

Never heard of RAIDMAX PSUs, so I would change that for a Corsair or Seasonic. Not a fan of biostar mobos either, so look at Asus/Gigabyte.

Pick a good cooler too, no point having the K cpu without a good cooler. Also, I would pick the 840 Evo over the pro, I dont think the Pro is worth the extra money.

I appreciate the input, but those are both parts I'm actually quite solid on. I also have an aftermarket cooler already. Again this topic is on i7 vs i5. I wanted to throw the specs up for clarification on and to give an idea of my build for input on which way to go. However it might come down to the 290x performance with an aftermarket heat sink. If its consistently 20% faster as some non throttling situations have shown ill go with that and the 4670k if its only 5-10% faster as others have shown ill probably go with the 4770k and a 290.

Ok, well I would reconsider, as RAIDMAX seem to be of questionable quality and its better to be safe with the PSU, when it has the capacity to blow other components.

Ultimatly the i7 would be better, and will be better for future games with more threads - that said, if you get a good cooler and overclock the 4670k then you will still have plenty of CPU power for games.

As you say the i7 is of limited benefit in encoding/decoding if you are using the GpU.

 

[eldragon0]

I appreciate the input, but those are both parts I'm actually quite solid on. I also have an aftermarket cooler already. Again this topic is on i7 vs i5. I wanted to throw the specs up for clarification on and to give an idea of my build for input on which way to go. However it might come down to the 290x performance with an aftermarket heat sink. If its consistently 20% faster as some non throttling situations have shown ill go with that and the 4670k if its only 5-10% faster as others have shown ill probably go with the 4770k and a 290.

Ok, well I would reconsider, as RAIDMAX seem to be of questionable quality and its better to be safe with the PSU, when it has the capacity to blow other components.

Ultimatly the i7 would be better, and will be better for future games with more threads - that said, if you get a good cooler and overclock the 4670k then you will still have plenty of CPU power for games.

As you say the i7 is of limited benefit in encoding/decoding if you are using the GpU.

I'd really like to see these reviews that state the Raidmax is of questionable quality.

 

[RobCrezz]

I appreciate the input, but those are both parts I'm actually quite solid on. I also have an aftermarket cooler already. Again this topic is on i7 vs i5. I wanted to throw the specs up for clarification on and to give an idea of my build for input on which way to go. However it might come down to the 290x performance with an aftermarket heat sink. If its consistently 20% faster as some non throttling situations have shown ill go with that and the 4670k if its only 5-10% faster as others have shown ill probably go with the 4770k and a 290.

Ok, well I would reconsider, as RAIDMAX seem to be of questionable quality and its better to be safe with the PSU, when it has the capacity to blow other components.

Ultimatly the i7 would be better, and will be better for future games with more threads - that said, if you get a good cooler and overclock the 4670k then you will still have plenty of CPU power for games.

As you say the i7 is of limited benefit in encoding/decoding if you are using the GpU.

I'd really like to see these reviews that state the Raidmax is of questionable quality.

Google raidmax PSU and have a look for your self:

I can see plenty of discussions about them either being questionable or people unhappy with them.

Anyway, its only advice, you might be fine with a RAIDMAX.

 

[eldragon0]

I appreciate the input, but those are both parts I'm actually quite solid on. I also have an aftermarket cooler already. Again this topic is on i7 vs i5. I wanted to throw the specs up for clarification on and to give an idea of my build for input on which way to go. However it might come down to the 290x performance with an aftermarket heat sink. If its consistently 20% faster as some non throttling situations have shown ill go with that and the 4670k if its only 5-10% faster as others have shown ill probably go with the 4770k and a 290.

Ok, well I would reconsider, as RAIDMAX seem to be of questionable quality and its better to be safe with the PSU, when it has the capacity to blow other components.

Ultimatly the i7 would be better, and will be better for future games with more threads - that said, if you get a good cooler and overclock the 4670k then you will still have plenty of CPU power for games.

As you say the i7 is of limited benefit in encoding/decoding if you are using the GpU.

I'd really like to see these reviews that state the Raidmax is of questionable quality.

Google raidmax PSU and have a look for your self:

I can see plenty of discussions about them either being questionable or people unhappy with them.

Anyway, its only advice, you might be fine with a RAIDMAX.

I've googled it for the last two night, and the only reviews I can find for anything to do with their AP models are ALL 5 stars or 90+/100 I'd really like to see where you are getting these bad reviews from, because I like to be informed of what I'm buying before I buy it.

 

[RobCrezz]

I appreciate the input, but those are both parts I'm actually quite solid on. I also have an aftermarket cooler already. Again this topic is on i7 vs i5. I wanted to throw the specs up for clarification on and to give an idea of my build for input on which way to go. However it might come down to the 290x performance with an aftermarket heat sink. If its consistently 20% faster as some non throttling situations have shown ill go with that and the 4670k if its only 5-10% faster as others have shown ill probably go with the 4770k and a 290.

Ok, well I would reconsider, as RAIDMAX seem to be of questionable quality and its better to be safe with the PSU, when it has the capacity to blow other components.

Ultimatly the i7 would be better, and will be better for future games with more threads - that said, if you get a good cooler and overclock the 4670k then you will still have plenty of CPU power for games.

As you say the i7 is of limited benefit in encoding/decoding if you are using the GpU.

I'd really like to see these reviews that state the Raidmax is of questionable quality.

Google raidmax PSU and have a look for your self:

I can see plenty of discussions about them either being questionable or people unhappy with them.

Anyway, its only advice, you might be fine with a RAIDMAX.

I've googled it for the last two night, and the only reviews I can find for anything to do with their AP models are ALL 5 stars or 90+/100 I'd really like to see where you are getting these bad reviews from, because I like to be informed of what I'm buying before I buy it.

Poor quality soldering and build quality, and it doesn't actually meet the claimed 80 plus gold standard under testing, unlike its claims.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/02/23/raidmax_rx1000ae_1000w_power_supply_review/9#.Uny7DHBtF8E

 

[eldragon0]

Yea, I saw that one for the AE model. It's a different build..... kind of like comparing the build quality of a 280x to a 290. Not that it's not at all valid, it is the same company. But all companies have a bad apple now and then. Thanks for the link though, it was an insightful read.

 

[RobCrezz]

Yea, I saw that one for the AE model. It's a different build..... kind of like comparing the build quality of a 280x to a 290. Not that it's not at all valid, it is the same company. But all companies have a bad apple now and then. Thanks for the link though, it was an insightful read.

As I said, its only advice. You pay your money and make your choice.

I have seen low quality PSUs blow components, but the RAIDMAX might be fine. Good luck with your build