Hello all! First I'd like to thank any of you that help me with this question. I am in no way new to the PC building game, though this is the first time that I am making an enthusiast build. I have used the PSU calculators and came to a conclusion of using a 1000-1250 watt PSU. I would just like a bit more clarification and recommendation as a few of the parts I will include was not able to be selected on those calculators.
MOBO- Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z
CPU- AMD 8350 (will most likely OC at some point)
CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14
RAM- AMD Radeon Gamer Series DDR3 2133mhz (or Corsair Vengeance 1866mhz)
GPU- dual HIS AMD 280x IceQ x2 Turbo Boost (or dual custom 290 when they release)
Audio- Creative Sound Blaster ZX
HDD- 2tb WD Black Caviar 7200 and 600gb WD Black Caviar 7200
Case- Cooler Master HAF 922 filled with 7 fans, 2 200mm and 5 120mm
Media- Blu-Ray reader/writer combo
My concern is mainly for the GPU's as I know I will upgrade sometime in the future (like with all tech) and would like to hold onto the PSU as long as I can. I was originally looking at an AZZA Platinum 1000 watt 80+ Platinum. Though if that's just going to barely cover the wattage requirements without any OC, then I would rather buy a 1250 watt PSU for the comfort of knowing that I'm not pushing it to it's limits continuously.
Also, just in case any of you are wondering why I'm not upgrading to a SSD. I'm just not ready for it yet and it would put the build out of my budget.
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 1050W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($177.04 @ Newegg)
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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1200W does it say?
An 850W would cover a build like that quite easily, even with overclocking.
Also I would find room in your budget to get an SSD, they are easily what will make your system feel a lot faster.
Places you can cut down on
- If you dont intend to run a triple monitor or 1440p setup, you dont need dual 280X's. At 1080p that performance is simply wasted.
- Dont need fast memory, makes no difference in games. Your standard 8GB 1600Mhz CL9 kit will do fine for gaming. Also go for a low profile kit, especially with that Noctua heatsink.
- Do you really need Blu-Ray?
- Can get a lower end mobo
Places to spend more
- An SSD
- Better case, something like a Switch 810, Corsair 750D. If you really want to go nuts and ensure water-cooling capability later on, Phanteks Enthoo Primo.
I am using a Kingwin Lazer 1000 watt 80+ Bronze PSU for my current build, though it lacks enough 6+2 PCIe connectors for future GPUs. I did feel as if my current wattage should be enough for my future build, though those PSU calculators suggested anywhere from 900-1200 wattage.
I am dead set on getting the Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z motherboard with the AMD CPU. So those are the only two things I will get for sure.
I already have a blu-ray player, so that's not something I can cut the cost down on. I do already have Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600, though my motherboard can take advantage of an OC'd 2400 mhz. Any suggestions on the RAM, would definitely be appreciated. As I do know the improvements are not devastating, though it is noticeable.
As far as the GPU goes, I would rather have a dual graphics card set-up as I am definitely someone who likes to play with details as high as possible. And will go into the .ini files to manually configure graphics to the absolute best balance of performance vs. detail.
After scouring the internet for months and talking to friends who have one, I have decided on getting the HAF 922 case for it's reliability, features and airflow performance.
And with the SSD. I would LOVE to get a SSD, though why I'm not ready to upgrade to them yet is the average lifespan not being very long and with games requiring much more space now-a-days. I'd imagine that even if I bought a 500gb-1tb SSD, that I would be buying a larger one in a few years anyways. And the high price tag I would pay now, would be a slap in the face when I go to buy a larger capacity SSD. I play a variety of games, though the only games I own that will take advantage of an SSD is BF3/4 and SWTOR (which I semi-regularly play). Basically, I would really only take advantage of an SSD for my OS.
I am primarily a gamer and I do contract game testing for EA, Activision, Ubisoft and Sony. I got passed up for the BF4 Alpha because they had already filled the quota for low-mid range builds. My current build was put together in 2009 and was on the mid-high range scale. The only other thing I use my PC for is music production and school work. So as far as demanding apps goes, it will be for gaming first and audio production second.
I generally recommend G.Skill Sniper memory, their decently binned and have low profile heatsinks. Though I really advise against spending a heap on faster memory, it really isn't worth it.
If you want ridiculous settings at 1080p, why not just get a single overkill card? Grab yourself a 780Ti or aftermarket 290X, they would dominate anything at 1080p. Would turn out cheaper than dual cards, reduces your power consumption and removes potential Crossfire/SLI issues. Plus leaves you an upgrade path later on.
Still think you should get a higher end case, this is a pretty up there build, sticking it in a budget mid-tower doesn't sit right. I would at least go for a HAF-XM.
Modern SSD's will outlast their own usefulness, first gen SSD's degraded pretty badly but through software functions like TRIM and garbage collecting firmware, with hardware redundancies and tougher flash they simply last longer now. For a consumer grade drive, you would have to thrash it pretty hard to wear it down even over years.
If its just an OS and programs drive, 128GB will cover that just fine, and drive load isnt that great so it will basically last forever. If your really concerned you could get an 840 Pro which uses tougher MLC flash.
As for capacity, thats what secondary HDD's are for. Windows is about 30GB, programs are variable but its not going to take too much room and a few games will easily fit on a 128GB. All your games go on the HDD.
Thanks for the help on this! I came in for help on PSU wattage and got some good advice on the rest of my build.
I'm going to continue to use my Kingwin Lazer 1000 watt until I upgrade my GPU's and that way I'll be able to more accurately match those two components up.
I'm going to just keep using the Corsair Vengeance 1600's that I have now, though I would like to upgrade from 8 gb to 16gb. I know with my motherboard, I will be able to set the two modules in the outer DIMMs and that will place them far enough away from the CPU cooler.
I'm going to wait for the custom 290's to come out and see how the perform and use my dual 6850's until then. I really want to upgrade my GPU's, but after deciding that I wasn't going to be getting into the 4k monitor market yet. That dual 280x's would be just fine. However, I really want double ROP's and 512mb bus. So I guess I can wait for the custom 290's and buy 1 of em. Hopefully that'll give me better performance than the dual 280x's.
I'm downgrading my 2tb hdd to 1tb and I'm gonna get a 250gb Samsung Evo SSD. I know I didn't need the 2tb capacity, I was just buying it due to the price being only around $50 more.
As for my case, I decided to change it to the XM. I liked the bottom intake fan on the 922, though I don't know how much advantage it truly provides over the XM's dual HDD cage fan set-up.