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November 8, 2013 9:36:32 AM

Hi guys,
I recently bought a asrock fm2a85x-itx + a10 6800k combo. I'm using the stock cooler cause my cooler master hyper 412 slim has a backplate which I can't mount because of some chips on the back of the motherboard.

the temperature at idle is higher than 50c and while installing the video driver it ramped up to 67c. plus, I was in the bios menu to set up the cpu fan target speed/temp and the temperature increased by 1 degree every 5 seconds, till it got up to 80c and the pc shut down.

I tried to reseat the cooler. as I'm typing the temperature is stable at 49c (as displayed by the asrock extreme tuning utility

is there any known temperature issue?

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November 8, 2013 9:39:18 AM

Did you reapply thermal paste? You can't use the same old stuff.
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November 8, 2013 9:48:48 AM

j0ndafr3ak said:
Hi guys,
I recently bought a asrock fm2a85x-itx + a10 6800k combo. I'm using the stock cooler cause my cooler master hyper 412 slim has a backplate which I can't mount because of some chips on the back of the motherboard.

the temperature at idle is higher than 50c and while installing the video driver it ramped up to 67c. plus, I was in the bios menu to set up the cpu fan target speed/temp and the temperature increased by 1 degree every 5 seconds, till it got up to 80c and the pc shut down.

I tried to reseat the cooler. as I'm typing the temperature is stable at 49c (as displayed by the asrock extreme tuning utility

is there any known temperature issue?


I think you should buy a Hyper 212 EVO to keep temps low and apply with this thermal paste: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Arctic-Cooling-MX-4-Thermal-Com...
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November 8, 2013 11:03:45 AM

ewok93 said:
Did you reapply thermal paste? You can't use the same old stuff.


I didn't cause I had just finished assembling all the parts. The pc had been running for 15 mins maybe and it shut down as soon as I entered the bios setup. So I didn't think it necessary to reapply thermal paste
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AndyC53 said:
I think you should buy a Hyper 212 EVO to keep temps low and apply with this thermal paste: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Arctic-Cooling-MX-4-Thermal-Com...


thanks for the suggestion. is a backplate needed to mount the hyper 212 evo? if so, I can't install it..

anyway, i solved the problem by installing an exhaust fan at the back of the case. temps drastically decreased like 15c less at idle and never going higher than 45c while installing programs.

one problem still remains though. when I enter the bios setup the temperature never stops going up. is the fm2a85x itx active background that causes it?

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November 8, 2013 11:08:52 AM

j0ndafr3ak said:
ewok93 said:
Did you reapply thermal paste? You can't use the same old stuff.


I didn't cause I had just finished assembling all the parts. The pc had been running for 15 mins maybe and it shut down as soon as I entered the bios setup. So I didn't think it necessary to reapply thermal paste
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AndyC53 said:
I think you should buy a Hyper 212 EVO to keep temps low and apply with this thermal paste: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Arctic-Cooling-MX-4-Thermal-Com...


thanks for the suggestion. is a backplate needed to mount the hyper 212 evo? if so, I can't install it..

anyway, i solved the problem by installing an exhaust fan at the back of the case. temps drastically decreased like 15c less at idle and never going higher than 45c while installing programs.

one problem still remains though. when I enter the bios setup the temperature never stops going up. is the fm2a85x itx active background that causes it?



It probably is. If the mobo isn't heat resistant/doesn't have many good heatsinks then it could cause the CPU to heat up.

PS - The Hyper 212 EVO has a backplate (so unlucky for you . . .)
I would just invest in a slightly better mobo.
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November 8, 2013 11:09:00 AM

j0ndafr3ak said:
ewok93 said:
Did you reapply thermal paste? You can't use the same old stuff.


I didn't cause I had just finished assembling all the parts. The pc had been running for 15 mins maybe and it shut down as soon as I entered the bios setup. So I didn't think it necessary to reapply thermal paste
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AndyC53 said:
I think you should buy a Hyper 212 EVO to keep temps low and apply with this thermal paste: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Arctic-Cooling-MX-4-Thermal-Com...


thanks for the suggestion. is a backplate needed to mount the hyper 212 evo? if so, I can't install it..

anyway, i solved the problem by installing an exhaust fan at the back of the case. temps drastically decreased like 15c less at idle and never going higher than 45c while installing programs.

one problem still remains though. when I enter the bios setup the temperature never stops going up. is the fm2a85x itx active background that causes it?


Yes, the 212 EVO does have a backplate.

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November 8, 2013 11:15:53 AM

AndyC53 said:
It probably is. If the mobo isn't heat resistant/doesn't have many good heatsinks then it could cause the CPU to heat up.

PS - The Hyper 212 EVO has a backplate (so unlucky for you . . .)
I would just invest in a slightly better mobo.


which one would you advise? I'm bound to the itx form factor cause I have a bitfenix prodigy...
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November 8, 2013 11:18:19 AM

j0ndafr3ak said:
AndyC53 said:
It probably is. If the mobo isn't heat resistant/doesn't have many good heatsinks then it could cause the CPU to heat up.

PS - The Hyper 212 EVO has a backplate (so unlucky for you . . .)
I would just invest in a slightly better mobo.


which one would you advise? I'm bound to the itx form factor cause I have a bitfenix prodigy...


This one doesn't look bad.
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November 8, 2013 11:21:37 AM

AndyC53 said:
This one doesn't look bad.


which one?

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November 19, 2013 8:31:28 PM

I had the exact same combo as yours, but when im in the bios, it goes up to 50c and stop there, oc my ram to 1866, change my igpu memory share to 2gb, run prime 95 for a day and the temp didnt pass 60c with stock cooler, so I think its strange that you got problem from just running that cpu
Btw this is my case
http://www.dazumba.com/mobile/index.php?p=catalog&actio...
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November 19, 2013 8:51:07 PM

the A10-6800k is infamous for running hot and the stock heat-sink is worthless, either the H60 liquid cooler or go with a top rated aftermarket heat-sink but you'll always be happier with liquid cooling..
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November 19, 2013 10:00:19 PM

Oddly enough, the Bitfenix Prodigy has a CPU Clearance of 175mm, despite being made for ITX form factors. Also, on the bright side, there are a couple cooling solutions which utilize the stock AMD backplate as a mounting solution.

One is the Arctic A30 Freezer, for about ~$40 on Amazon.

The other is pretty much any Noctua cooling solution - the cheapest being the NH-U12S, currently $60 on NCIX.
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December 7, 2013 2:53:27 PM

I think I've solved the problem. I managed to mount the CM Hyper 412 slim on the motherboard. I cut a hole in the backplate and made some space for the chips right under the socket area.

I think the prrblem was that, being the motherboard seated horizontally, the stock cooler would just suck in the hot air release by the cpu itself... hot air moves upward so.. the problem was partially solved when i installed the front and rear fans which made the air inside the case cooler. With the 412 slim the apu at idle has a temperature of about 30 Celsius degrees. So i guess i have some headroom for overclock. ..haven't tried yet though
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December 8, 2013 8:40:10 AM

j0ndafr3ak said:
I think I've solved the problem. I managed to mount the CM Hyper 412 slim on the motherboard. I cut a hole in the backplate and made some space for the chips right under the socket area.

I think the prrblem was that, being the motherboard seated horizontally, the stock cooler would just suck in the hot air release by the cpu itself... hot air moves upward so.. the problem was partially solved when i installed the front and rear fans which made the air inside the case cooler. With the 412 slim the apu at idle has a temperature of about 30 Celsius degrees. So i guess i have some headroom for overclock. ..haven't tried yet though


I wouldn't oc even with those temps. If you want a decent oc then get a hyper 212 EVO.
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December 10, 2013 1:46:49 PM

AndyC53 said:
j0ndafr3ak said:
I think I've solved the problem. I managed to mount the CM Hyper 412 slim on the motherboard. I cut a hole in the backplate and made some space for the chips right under the socket area.

I think the prrblem was that, being the motherboard seated horizontally, the stock cooler would just suck in the hot air release by the cpu itself... hot air moves upward so.. the problem was partially solved when i installed the front and rear fans which made the air inside the case cooler. With the 412 slim the apu at idle has a temperature of about 30 Celsius degrees. So i guess i have some headroom for overclock. ..haven't tried yet though


I wouldn't oc even with those temps. If you want a decent oc then get a hyper 212 EVO.


Sorry, but you got me confused here.. Do you mean the 212 evo will do a better job over the 412 slim? shouldn't it be a "lower model"?
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December 11, 2013 10:50:28 AM

j0ndafr3ak said:
AndyC53 said:
j0ndafr3ak said:
I think I've solved the problem. I managed to mount the CM Hyper 412 slim on the motherboard. I cut a hole in the backplate and made some space for the chips right under the socket area.

I think the prrblem was that, being the motherboard seated horizontally, the stock cooler would just suck in the hot air release by the cpu itself... hot air moves upward so.. the problem was partially solved when i installed the front and rear fans which made the air inside the case cooler. With the 412 slim the apu at idle has a temperature of about 30 Celsius degrees. So i guess i have some headroom for overclock. ..haven't tried yet though


I wouldn't oc even with those temps. If you want a decent oc then get a hyper 212 EVO.


Sorry, but you got me confused here.. Do you mean the 212 evo will do a better job over the 412 slim? shouldn't it be a "lower model"?


I'm sorry, I am confusing you (and myself),you are right the 412 slim will cool better but I thought you were talking about a different cooler entirely. So yes you could get a decent OC from that, I am guessing maximum 4.5GHz
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January 31, 2014 7:55:40 AM

Hey guys, problem not solved yet.
I had to go back to the stock cooler and I got the same problem as before. The apu temp ramps up till the PC turns off for security reasons. It never happens when windows is loaded. I tried to update windows 8 to windows 8.1 but once it restarts and begins the setting up process the temp doesn't stop increasing (windows hasn't started yet at this point).
I thought I might update the bios but every time I enter the bios utility it's a matter of seconds before the PC shuts down for too high temps. And I can't start the update process since it will certainly be interrupted... any solutions?
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January 31, 2014 12:12:49 PM

Why did you have to go back to the stock cooler? If it's overheating that fast it sounds like you didn't install it correctly. If not, you just need to get a better cooler.
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January 31, 2014 12:22:19 PM

On the contrary, the heat sink is perfectly seated on the apu. In fact, I can play games and still have decent temps. The problem appears only when I'm in the bios utility or it's updating the OS before loading windows. As soon as windows is up and running the problem is gone. Seems like a bug, or maybe the thermal sensor retrieves a temp increase when it's not actually increasing.

I had to go back to the stock cause I'm using it with another rig
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January 31, 2014 12:32:34 PM

Well usually the BIOS will put it under full load, so maybe it sees that and the temperatures really does go way up, or it just has a false reading. Boot it run Prime95 and monitor your temps.
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June 20, 2014 10:30:49 PM

Any update? I have the exact same problem. In fact I cant install any OS because the comp restart before the installation is finish. The motherboard is protected at 70C. The airflow is just right and the stock cooler is well installed (tried 3 different times applying new thermal paste every time after cleaning the old one)

My exact components are the 6800K with the MSI A78M-E45.
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June 20, 2014 10:45:49 PM

Not really. The only way I can keep the temp down is with a Corsair H100i, which suggests it does overheat, it isn't just a sensor misreading...
It doesn't seem to be a widespread problem (maybe because just a few people buy apus?).
Honestly, I haven't looked much into it lately.
One thing I'm gonna do next is buy a new fm2+ modo (the asrock killer) and see if the problem is still there
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June 21, 2014 7:31:01 AM

j0ndafr3ak said:
Not really. The only way I can keep the temp down is with a Corsair H100i, which suggests it does overheat, it isn't just a sensor misreading...
It doesn't seem to be a widespread problem (maybe because just a few people buy apus?).
Honestly, I haven't looked much into it lately.

So I guess I'll try ordering the noctua NH-L9a for it. I just don't understand why we should need an after market cooler to be able to run this APU... I also sent an email to AMD, let's see what they say, I can keep you updated if youre curious.
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June 21, 2014 11:13:08 AM

Sure thing, keep me posted.
One thing you may want to try is to disable the thermal protection during the installation process. But if the cpu temp is actually ramping up, well, that may become a problem, if it goes past the maximum safe temperature.
Once I thought a bios update would fix it, but the bios flashing was interrupted a half way through. Had to order a new bios chip...
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July 2, 2014 2:15:47 PM

I'm having similiar issue, I have a A10-6800k with MSI A78M-E35 mbobo and the temp in bios was running high 70's c. 2 case fans. I reseated the cpu with new paste ,but no improvements. I then installed a a8-5600k that i had in another machine and now I'm running high 60's in bios. My machine had been crashing when running multiple programs. I'm wondering if my issue is mobo?? I've been using stock heatsink. any updates from you guys??
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July 2, 2014 3:15:52 PM

justin_dukkha said:
I'm having similiar issue, I have a A10-6800k with MSI A78M-E35 mbobo and the temp in bios was running high 70's c. 2 case fans. I reseated the cpu with new paste ,but no improvements. I then installed a a8-5600k that i had in another machine and now I'm running high 60's in bios. My machine had been crashing when running multiple programs. I'm wondering if my issue is mobo?? I've been using stock heatsink. any updates from you guys??

I opened an RMA with NCIX and I sent them the APU with the motherboard. I don't have any feedback yet, but they are suppose to update me soon.
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July 2, 2014 3:20:35 PM

I think the 6800k is far more better man.

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July 2, 2014 3:53:12 PM

Bretmh, I agree, I just had the A8, so I wanted to test with a different cpu.
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July 2, 2014 4:27:40 PM

Did you try to update the bios of your motherboard using your A8 cpu and then try with the A10?
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July 18, 2014 7:52:04 PM

justin_dukkha said:
I'm having similiar issue, I have a A10-6800k with MSI A78M-E35 mbobo and the temp in bios was running high 70's c. 2 case fans. I reseated the cpu with new paste ,but no improvements. I then installed a a8-5600k that i had in another machine and now I'm running high 60's in bios. My machine had been crashing when running multiple programs. I'm wondering if my issue is mobo?? I've been using stock heatsink. any updates from you guys??


I just received the RMA pieces back. Apparently it was just the motherboard. So I tried the new hardware in the BIOS, the temps was still climbing very high. I didn't let it go over 70 and I just shut it down. After I installed windows 8, no more problem or rebooting after reaching the critical temp even if with hwmonitor, the APU reaches temps near 80-95oC sometimes, but without shuting down by itself....I don't know if it's the sensor that have glitches, but I might buy a new heatsink in a somewhat new future.... Still I used it a couple hours and everything goes smoothly even if sometimes the temp goes crazy. What do you think?
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July 18, 2014 11:15:51 PM

Nicolas21 said:

I just received the RMA pieces back. Apparently it was just the motherboard. So I tried the new hardware in the BIOS, the temps was still climbing very high. I didn't let it go over 70 and I just shut it down. After I installed windows 8, no more problem or rebooting after reaching the critical temp even if with hwmonitor, the APU reaches temps near 80-95oC sometimes, but without shuting down by itself....I don't know if it's the sensor that have glitches, but I might buy a new heatsink in a somewhat new future.... Still I used it a couple hours and everything goes smoothly even if sometimes the temp goes crazy. What do you think?


My problem is kinda different than yours. The apu overheats when I'm in the bios setup utility. I tried with the stock cooler, a CM Hyper 412 slim and a Corsair H100i, but the apu still heats up - more slowly with the h100i - till it reaches the critical temp then the pc shuts down. When I tried to flash the new bios, the pc shut down before the update was finished so I had to get a new bios chip.
Other than that, I can play games without problems - either the 412 slim and the h100i will do. Of course, the h100i keeps the temp much lower.
In windows 8 i have no issues at all. Everything works fine.
And I wouldn't really know why this is happening.
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September 16, 2014 6:08:36 PM

Did you guys ever find out any more info on this? I have the same board and bought it back when it came out. Was running BIOS 1.10 but just updated it to 1.60 to get IOMMU support for an vSphere lab. As soon as I updated the BIOS I started experiencing the problem. When in the BIOS the fan runs full blast and temp just increases about .5degC every second. Once I'm back in Windows (haven't tried the ESXi setup yet) it returns to normal operation...
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September 18, 2014 9:42:33 AM

courvus said:
Did you guys ever find out any more info on this? I have the same board and bought it back when it came out. Was running BIOS 1.10 but just updated it to 1.60 to get IOMMU support for an vSphere lab. As soon as I updated the BIOS I started experiencing the problem. When in the BIOS the fan runs full blast and temp just increases about .5degC every second. Once I'm back in Windows (haven't tried the ESXi setup yet) it returns to normal operation...


I believe when your in bios your cpu is running at max. So, temps should be rising. For me, I did a couple of things
1. I used amd's overdrive to get accurate temp's since hw monitor and others temp readings were wrong.
1. I switch my psu from blowing air inside the case to blowing it out of the case. nub mistake.
1. I added one case fans. Hey, couldn't hurt.
1. I added cooler master evo cooler. Should be necessary, but I did want to do some overclocking.

I've had no issues since.
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