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November 8, 2013 9:51:49 AM

After doing some research I have decided to build my own gaming desktop instead of buying one pre-made from a company. Hoping to be able to play games like battlefield, skyrim, etc at the high end of the graphics scale. After browsing thru Newegg and other websites here's the components I've decided to go for.



Case:

Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, option Fans-2x Side 120mm Fan

Storage:

Seagate NAS HDD ST2000VN000 2TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive

Video Card:

MSI Gaming N770 TF 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 770 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card

RAM:

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-16GXM

Motherboard:

MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Extreme OC High Performance Triple CFX/ SLI Intel Motherboard

Processor:

Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I74770K

Optical:

LG Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM SATA Internal Blu-ray Drive Model UH12NS30 - OEM

Powersource:

Rosewill CAPSTONE-750 750W Continuous @ 50°C, Intel Haswell Ready, 80 PLUS GOLD, ATX12V v2.31 & EPS12V v2.92, SLI/CrossFire Ready, Active PFC Power Supply



Should everything work together here and am I forgetting anything? Thanks for the info.

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November 8, 2013 9:55:50 AM

Everything looks good!
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November 8, 2013 10:06:22 AM

Like the guy above me said, everything looks good, except I heard that MSI motherboards tend to be of a cheaper quality compared to Asus ones. So if you can afford it, I'd definitely recommend an Asus Maximus VI Hero.
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November 8, 2013 10:08:39 AM

Don't get a NAS (network attaced storage, aka server use) HDD for desktop use, and I'd steer clear of Rosewill PSUs. Also don't recommend MSI motherboards generally (not the highest QA).

Here's a PCPartPicker selection based around your parts, with a few modifications and includes OS, not sure if you need one (might save you $$ too):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.75 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.65 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1193.30
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-08 13:09 EST-0500)
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November 8, 2013 10:18:07 AM

If the rig is solely for gaming, there's absolutely no need for an i7/16GB of ram. Other than that, the build is just fine, minus the PSU, which I would swap out for a Seasonic or a Corsair.
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November 8, 2013 10:41:40 AM

enemy1g said:
If the rig is solely for gaming, there's absolutely no need for an i7/16GB of ram. Other than that, the build is just fine, minus the PSU, which I would swap out for a Seasonic or a Corsair.


Eh, depends on monitor refresh rate/desired frame rates. Generally, yeah i5s are plenty, but particularly with BF4, i7s are quite a step up. So when gaming on a 144Hz monitor, an i7 would be a good choice:
http://www.bf4blog.com/battlefield-4-retail-gpu-cpu-ben...

In BF4 an i7 will give you like 30-35 more fps than an i5.
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November 8, 2013 11:40:15 AM

ACTechy said:
Don't get a NAS (network attaced storage, aka server use) HDD for desktop use, and I'd steer clear of Rosewill PSUs. Also don't recommend MSI motherboards generally (not the highest QA).

Here's a PCPartPicker selection based around your parts, with a few modifications and includes OS, not sure if you need one (might save you $$ too):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.75 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.65 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1193.30
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-08 13:09 EST-0500)


I read somewhere that the PSU can burn out with lower ratings? (ie Gold, silver, bronze) Would I be better off shelling out a bit of extra cash up front to save myself some headache in the future or will it have to be replaced down the road no matter what I do?

In order to get HDMI to work does the motherboard AND the graphics card need an HDMI output or since the graphics card will be handling the video side of things is it only required on that?

Should I stick with windows 7 or should I look at getting windows 8 instead? Also considering just going for ubuntu and seeing how that pans out but I honestly have no experience with it so not sure how it works.

Actually built the build reccomended here by ACTechy and received a warning message:

ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard has an onboard USB 3.0 header, but the Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports.

Is that going to cause some issues for me or does it just mean that the motherboard has some stuff that won't be used?

Update, think I may shell out the extra 10 bucks and go for

Rosewill Line Glow ATX Mid Tower Case
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November 8, 2013 12:56:25 PM

ACTechy said:
enemy1g said:
If the rig is solely for gaming, there's absolutely no need for an i7/16GB of ram. Other than that, the build is just fine, minus the PSU, which I would swap out for a Seasonic or a Corsair.


Eh, depends on monitor refresh rate/desired frame rates. Generally, yeah i5s are plenty, but particularly with BF4, i7s are quite a step up. So when gaming on a 144Hz monitor, an i7 would be a good choice:
http://www.bf4blog.com/battlefield-4-retail-gpu-cpu-ben...

In BF4 an i7 will give you like 30-35 more fps than an i5.


30-35 more fps than an i5? Do tell. According to the BF4 benchmark that has been floating around (http://www.bf4blog.com/battlefield-4-retail-gpu-cpu-ben...), with an i7 3970X @ 4.9 GHz you'll get an average of minimum of 90 FPS, and an average of 119 FPS with two 780s.

Now I have an i5 4670k with a modest overclock, at 4.2 GHz, and enjoy virtually the same rates. My minimum FPS has hovered around 84 FPS, and average is nearly 110 FPS. An i7 currently does not make that large of a difference in even the most core intensive games. Once games start to utilize more than 4 cores, I'll switch to an i7.

And yes I am well aware of the CPU comparison at the bottom of the page, but I'm referring to personal experience and i5 4670k vs an i7 3970X with dual 780s.
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November 8, 2013 1:10:42 PM

Drefius said:


I read somewhere that the PSU can burn out with lower ratings? (ie Gold, silver, bronze) Would I be better off shelling out a bit of extra cash up front to save myself some headache in the future or will it have to be replaced down the road no matter what I do?

In order to get HDMI to work does the motherboard AND the graphics card need an HDMI output or since the graphics card will be handling the video side of things is it only required on that?

Should I stick with windows 7 or should I look at getting windows 8 instead? Also considering just going for ubuntu and seeing how that pans out but I honestly have no experience with it so not sure how it works.

Actually built the build reccomended here by ACTechy and received a warning message:

ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard has an onboard USB 3.0 header, but the Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports.

Is that going to cause some issues for me or does it just mean that the motherboard has some stuff that won't be used?

Update, think I may shell out the extra 10 bucks and go for

Rosewill Line Glow ATX Mid Tower Case


1) I'm not sure what you're asking about the PSU, but a good quality will last you many years. Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum are power efficiency ratings.

2) In order to get HDMI you need an HDMI out on the graphics card, if you're going to buy a discrete card. Otherwise, yeah you'd need one on your motherbaord.

3) I'd go Windows 7 64-bit for sure. Maybe Win 8.1, definitely not 8.

4) Yeah I just used the case you originally listed. The Challenger only has USB 2.0, so if you want to use 3.0 you need a case with USB 3.0 headers (Corsair 300r is on sale right now and comes with excellent cooling options and USB 3.0: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...) It's not a compatibility issue as much as you just wouldn't get USB 3.0 speeds from your USB ports. That Rosewill Line Glow does have USB 3.0, but I'd go Corsair over Rosewill any day.
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November 8, 2013 2:10:42 PM

enemy1g said:

30-35 more fps than an i5? Do tell. According to the BF4 benchmark that has been floating around (http://www.bf4blog.com/battlefield-4-retail-gpu-cpu-ben...), with an i7 3970X @ 4.9 GHz you'll get an average of minimum of 90 FPS, and an average of 119 FPS with two 780s.


Fair enough, 27fps give or take several. In my book, that's plenty of difference.

enemy1g said:

Now I have an i5 4670k with a modest overclock, at 4.2 GHz, and enjoy virtually the same rates. My minimum FPS has hovered around 84 FPS, and average is nearly 110 FPS. An i7 currently does not make that large of a difference in even the most core intensive games. Once games start to utilize more than 4 cores, I'll switch to an i7.


There's no doubt games are going to be using more and more cores in the next few years, even if BF is one of the first to really push on that (I know Crysis 3 can use up to 6, I believe it is). Why wait and have to upgrade later to an i7? I doubt it's that far in the future. Makes more sense to settle on the right CPU the first time around even it's a little overkill at this moment.

Just my 2 cents. I hate rebuying because I didn't think ahead.
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November 8, 2013 3:12:51 PM

Much appreciated, I'll have a look at some other cases. I agree with you on the i7 processor, if the newer tech is already out I might as well get it so I don't have to deal with it later.
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November 8, 2013 3:29:24 PM

Drefius said:
Much appreciated, I'll have a look at some other cases. I agree with you on the i7 processor, if the newer tech is already out I might as well get it so I don't have to deal with it later.


Good luck! Newegg is ramping up "Black November" deals, so should be some good stuff.
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