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November 8, 2013 11:28:25 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: Next couple of weeks after next Friday for sure.

Budget Range: $2700 after shipping

System Usage From Most to least Important: gaming, streaming games, a little 3d editing.

Are you buying a monitor: I already have one but i am looking to purchase another or a better one.

I want to make a pc from scratch.

I have the OS

I would prefer to buy the parts from New Egg

Location: Henderson, Nevada

Parts Preferences: I would prefer it to be AMD

Overclocking; Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Preferably

Monitor resolution is 1776x1000 at the moment but, i would prefer to get one with 1920x1200 or 1920x1080

I want to be able to play every game also i would like to be able to play those games at ultra graphics while streaming with x-split and use 3ds max a little along with maya and gimp.

I have recently gotten some money and i am wanting to upgrade to an amazing pc.

These are the parts i was looking at getting. any feed back or help would be greatly appreciated.

CPU= AMD FX-8350 Vishera
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CPU Cooler=Corsair H100i
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Mother Board= ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z
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Memory= G.Skill Sniper 16GB
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Storage= Kingston SSDNow Series SV300S37A and a Seagate NAS HDD ST4000NV000
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Video Card= 2x Radeon R9-290
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Case= Cooler MAster HAF 932 Advanced
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Power Supply=Fractal Design Newton R3 1000W ATX 12V/ EPS12V
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Optical Drive= ASUS DVD-Writer model DRW-24F1ST
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Anything that i missed or need to add?
Any Better parts to add to this?
Any Compatibility issues that i might have?
My Budget is around $2700

Honestly any help would be appreciated.

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November 8, 2013 11:37:45 AM
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I would suggest getting an FX-8350 and overclocking it to 4.4 (very easy to do, and save you some money. They are the same processors)

7950's (even in SLI) are kind of low end cards. It would probably be better to get one (or 2) of the R9-290's (400 a piece) but 1 of them will outperform the dual 7950's.

I don't know about the quality of that PSU. But you definitely don't need that much power. I would suggest getting a Corsair or SeaSonic 850W.

Those Hybrid drives are ok, but it would be better to get a small boot SSD and a second standard HDD for storage. Instead of a single device.
November 8, 2013 11:56:21 AM

itzdanielp said:
I would suggest getting an FX-8350 and overclocking it to 4.4 (very easy to do, and save you some money. They are the same processors)

7950's (even in SLI) are kind of low end cards. It would probably be better to get one (or 2) of the R9-290's (400 a piece) but 1 of them will outperform the dual 7950's.

I don't know about the quality of that PSU. But you definitely don't need that much power. I would suggest getting a Corsair or SeaSonic 850W.

Those Hybrid drives are ok, but it would be better to get a small boot SSD and a second standard HDD for storage. Instead of a single device.


Thanks for the info on the cards, i switched them out for 2 of the r9-290's. I am sticking with that much power for the sole fact that my current computer has power problems and I am just playing it extremely safe when it comes to power. and i replaced the hybrid for Kingston SSDNow Series SV300S37A and a Seagate NAS HDD ST4000NV000
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November 8, 2013 1:02:43 PM

That all looks great!

The only other thing would be swapping the CPU (the 8350 and the 9370 are the exact same CPU's, just factory overclocked) it will save you a bit of money. Especially with the MB you are getting 4.4 is super easy to get (just raise the multiplier to 22, and give it a bit of a voltage boost and you are good). On a similar MB I have had my 8150 (harder to OC than the 8350) up to over 5GHz.
November 8, 2013 1:28:48 PM

itzdanielp said:
That all looks great!

The only other thing would be swapping the CPU (the 8350 and the 9370 are the exact same CPU's, just factory overclocked) it will save you a bit of money. Especially with the MB you are getting 4.4 is super easy to get (just raise the multiplier to 22, and give it a bit of a voltage boost and you are good). On a similar MB I have had my 8150 (harder to OC than the 8350) up to over 5GHz.


With each of the CPU's how high would i be able to overclock them and what would i need to do it safely. Due to the power limitations my current computer has i have never been able to do it. Also are there any special tools i would need to build this computer? Thank you for all of your help.
November 8, 2013 1:33:01 PM

Since the 8350 and 9370 are the same CPU, the max OC will be pretty much the same. With a solid cooling solution I would say 4.8-5GHz is a pretty good goal.

You will definitely need an aftermarket cooler for that, I personally use the Corsair H100i enclosed loop water cooling system (gives the benefits of watercooling without the maintenance) or if your case is large enough and you want to use air a cooler like a Noctua NH-D14.

You won't need anything other than a screwdriver to build the computer.

Just be sure to ground yourself (touch a metal part of the case) before handling components.
November 8, 2013 1:38:24 PM

Here is my approach:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.75 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($189.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($127.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($509.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($509.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($153.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2318.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-08 16:33 EST-0500)

Add there an operating system and a display if you need. I do not recommend putting there R9 290 GPUs as of yet because of the poorly designed reference coolers. Tey simply operate too hot to be recommended now. If you have time to wait before building and if you want a build with AMD graphics, there will be better models of R9 290 with better coolers.
November 8, 2013 1:39:01 PM

itzdanielp said:
That all looks great!

The only other thing would be swapping the CPU (the 8350 and the 9370 are the exact same CPU's, just factory overclocked) it will save you a bit of money. Especially with the MB you are getting 4.4 is super easy to get (just raise the multiplier to 22, and give it a bit of a voltage boost and you are good). On a similar MB I have had my 8150 (harder to OC than the 8350) up to over 5GHz.


Yeah the case is a full tower so i should have plenty of room with that one. the 9370 says it comes with a liquid cooling kit but idk what kind. Are the liquid cooling kits safe? and is the enermax ETS-T40-Bk not enough to cool it?

November 8, 2013 1:46:44 PM

The one included with the 9370 is going to be similar to many of the 120mm enclosed loop watercoolers (Corsair H80i)

Yes, the kits are very safe. Everything is enclosed, and require no maintenance, so you don't have to worry about leaks.

The enermax cooler is decent, but a closed loop watercooler is going to be better.
a b 4 Gaming
November 8, 2013 1:50:45 PM

well on this budget i suggest an intel build.
i5-4670k would be the best choice, i7-4770k if you willing to pay for some extra performance.

your budget would be enough for a fully custome watercooled build.



PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($189.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($405.91 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($405.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Series Primo Aluminum ATX Full Tower Case ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1872.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-08 16:50 EST-0500)



gpu-waterblock cost ~100$ each i guess
cpu-waterblock also ~100$
radiators, stuff, ect. ~ 300$

1900$+ 600$ => 2500$
November 8, 2013 1:53:47 PM

Marcopolo123 said:
well on this budget i suggest an intel build.
i5-4670k would be the best choice, i7-4770k if you willing to pay for some extra performance.

your budget would be enough for a fully custome watercooled build.



PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($189.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($405.91 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($405.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Series Primo Aluminum ATX Full Tower Case ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1872.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-08 16:50 EST-0500)


Why intel over AMD i am curious. I have always went AMD but, i know a lot of people who prefer intel and i am just wondering why? How is the 3.4 GHz quadcore better than the 4.0 GHz eight core?
November 8, 2013 1:54:55 PM

itzdanielp said:
The one included with the 9370 is going to be similar to many of the 120mm enclosed loop watercoolers (Corsair H80i)

Yes, the kits are very safe. Everything is enclosed, and require no maintenance, so you don't have to worry about leaks.

The enermax cooler is decent, but a closed loop watercooler is going to be better.


Thank you for your help, i changed the post to have the corsair H100i instead of the enermax cooler. Any thoughts on what the other guy said about the r9-290s running too hot?

a b 4 Gaming
November 8, 2013 2:18:10 PM

architecture is different.
look up some benchmarks
those 8 cores arent "real" cores
factor singel core performance very important.

better get swiftech h220 over h100i, or custome watercooling kit for ~ 170$
November 8, 2013 2:20:05 PM

It's true, the 290's run hot, and the stock cooling solution AMD uses can be loud.

The just recently updated the drivers to fix some of the performance issues regarding that, but AMD's coolers are always loud.

Check the article posted on the toms hardware front page.
a b 4 Gaming
November 8, 2013 2:24:48 PM

ye watercooling them would be the solution...
November 8, 2013 2:28:56 PM

Would i need to get a separate water cooler for the gpu's or no?
November 8, 2013 2:29:52 PM

As a side note: To be extremely honest, an SLI/Xfire of these graphic cards is overkill if you are going to use this machine for full hd (1200/1080p) gaming. What kind of display are you going to use with this machine? If you are using just 1 monitor with 1080p, there is absolutely no need to spend this much for SLI/Xfire
a b 4 Gaming
November 8, 2013 2:31:04 PM

true start with 1 gpu
November 8, 2013 2:41:38 PM

technoholic said:
As a side note: To be extremely honest, an SLI/Xfire of these graphic cards is overkill if you are going to use this machine for full hd (1200/1080p) gaming. What kind of display are you going to use with this machine? If you are using just 1 monitor with 1080p, there is absolutely no need to spend this much for SLI/Xfire


for the moment i am going to only use it for gaming and steaming with two monitors but, i am going to be getting a third monitor also. I have 2 of these monitors
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Are there other monitors that are better?
November 8, 2013 2:50:18 PM

lastguyplaying said:
technoholic said:
As a side note: To be extremely honest, an SLI/Xfire of these graphic cards is overkill if you are going to use this machine for full hd (1200/1080p) gaming. What kind of display are you going to use with this machine? If you are using just 1 monitor with 1080p, there is absolutely no need to spend this much for SLI/Xfire


for the moment i am going to only use it for gaming and steaming with two monitors but, i am going to be getting a third monitor also. I have 2 of these monitors
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Are there other monitors that are better?


Let's do this the right way. Can you re-format your first post this way please?Answer as many questions as possible so that we can recommend you a system which fits your needs the best way possible:

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: this week (the closer the better)

Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) Before / After Rebates; Before / After Shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (e.g.: Folding@Home, gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies)

Are you buying a monitor: Yes / No



Parts to Upgrade: (e.g.: CPU, mobo, RAM) **Include Power Supply Make & Model If Re-using**

Do you need to buy OS: Yes / No
Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.: newegg.com, ncix.com -- to show us selection & pricing)

Location: City, State/Region, Country - we need to know where these parts are being assembled and whether there are good store-only deals available

Parts Preferences: by brand or type (e.g.: I would like to upgrade to Intel CPU)

Overclocking: Yes / No / Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Yes / No / Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: (e.g.: 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1440x900, 1600x1200, 1680x1050, 1920x1080, 1920x1200 or if you're upgrading please state what you'd want to get)

Additional Comments: (e.g.: Need to have a window and lots of bling, I would like a quiet PC. Please also list specific software or games you're using)

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: (e.g. I'm having trouble running game X or my PSU broke)
November 8, 2013 3:03:36 PM

technoholic said:
lastguyplaying said:
technoholic said:
As a side note: To be extremely honest, an SLI/Xfire of these graphic cards is overkill if you are going to use this machine for full hd (1200/1080p) gaming. What kind of display are you going to use with this machine? If you are using just 1 monitor with 1080p, there is absolutely no need to spend this much for SLI/Xfire


for the moment i am going to only use it for gaming and steaming with two monitors but, i am going to be getting a third monitor also. I have 2 of these monitors
http://

Are there other monitors that are better?


Let's do this the right way. Can you re-format your first post this way please?Answer as many questions as possible so that we can recommend you a system which fits your needs the best way possible:

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: this week (the closer the better)

Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) Before / After Rebates; Before / After Shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (e.g.: Folding@Home, gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies)

Are you buying a monitor: Yes / No



Parts to Upgrade: (e.g.: CPU, mobo, RAM) **Include Power Supply Make & Model If Re-using**

Do you need to buy OS: Yes / No
Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.: newegg.com, ncix.com -- to show us selection & pricing)

Location: City, State/Region, Country - we need to know where these parts are being assembled and whether there are good store-only deals available

Parts Preferences: by brand or type (e.g.: I would like to upgrade to Intel CPU)

Overclocking: Yes / No / Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Yes / No / Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: (e.g.: 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1440x900, 1600x1200, 1680x1050, 1920x1080, 1920x1200 or if you're upgrading please state what you'd want to get)

Additional Comments: (e.g.: Need to have a window and lots of bling, I would like a quiet PC. Please also list specific software or games you're using)

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: (e.g. I'm having trouble running game X or my PSU broke)


Sorry about that I didn't read the post about posting until after i posted. I believe everything should be fixed now.
November 8, 2013 3:13:18 PM

I have always been an AMD fan, but there is no denying that Intel chips perform better clock for clock than the AMD counterparts.

If I was going to start over I would go Intel.

The main reason I didn't try to get you to switch is because you were asking a specific question and I didn't want to muddy it with AMD vs Intel stuff.

That said...

I would go with an Intel based build.

I would choose an i5 over an i7 if it was predominantly for gaming and standard use. Basically anything other than 3d rendering or heavy HD video editing. (the difference in chips is that i7's have hyperthreading enabled, and most programs don't use it)

I would go with 8GB of RAM (16 if I really felt it was necessary)

I would get a GTX 780 Ti graphics card (will play everything on ultra, and should be fine for 3x1080 monitors) or a 290x

I would get an 850W PSU (plenty for what I have, and plenty if I wanted to go SLI in the future)

I would get an enclosed loop watercooler for my CPU, and leave the graphics card as is (I would get an aftermarket card, not reference. such as the MSI Twin Frozr or Asus DCU2)

Full Custom Watercooling loops are cool, but they are costly and time consuming to setup, there is substantial testing required, and they need to be drained and cleaned on occasion.

November 8, 2013 4:43:26 PM

itzdanielp said:
I have always been an AMD fan, but there is no denying that Intel chips perform better clock for clock than the AMD counterparts.

If I was going to start over I would go Intel.

The main reason I didn't try to get you to switch is because you were asking a specific question and I didn't want to muddy it with AMD vs Intel stuff.

That said...

I would go with an Intel based build.

I would choose an i5 over an i7 if it was predominantly for gaming and standard use. Basically anything other than 3d rendering or heavy HD video editing. (the difference in chips is that i7's have hyperthreading enabled, and most programs don't use it)

I would go with 8GB of RAM (16 if I really felt it was necessary)

I would get a GTX 780 Ti graphics card (will play everything on ultra, and should be fine for 3x1080 monitors) or a 290x

I would get an 850W PSU (plenty for what I have, and plenty if I wanted to go SLI in the future)

I would get an enclosed loop watercooler for my CPU, and leave the graphics card as is (I would get an aftermarket card, not reference. such as the MSI Twin Frozr or Asus DCU2)

Full Custom Watercooling loops are cool, but they are costly and time consuming to setup, there is substantial testing required, and they need to be drained and cleaned on occasion.



The cpu that i have at the moment is AMD Phenom II X6 1090T how much better would the intel be than this one? I am going to be giving my current pc to my little brother and building myself this new one and just want to know how much better the intel one would be over this one.

November 8, 2013 8:49:08 PM

For gaming the difference between the 1090t and an i5 would be very obvious. A definite strong boost in FPS.
a b 4 Gaming
November 8, 2013 10:55:56 PM

itzdanielp said:
I would suggest getting an FX-8350 and overclocking it to 4.4 (very easy to do, and save you some money. They are the same processors)

7950's (even in SLI) are kind of low end cards. It would probably be better to get one (or 2) of the R9-290's (400 a piece) but 1 of them will outperform the dual 7950's.

I don't know about the quality of that PSU. But you definitely don't need that much power. I would suggest getting a Corsair or SeaSonic 850W.

Those Hybrid drives are ok, but it would be better to get a small boot SSD and a second standard HDD for storage. Instead of a single device.

This. Go with a 7970/R9 280X or a R9 290X.
a b 4 Gaming
November 9, 2013 12:49:29 AM

Since r9 290 is out, the 290x isnt worth it, because its only ~5% faster.

1090t is not bad.
November 9, 2013 3:21:14 AM

itzdanielp said:
I have always been an AMD fan, but there is no denying that Intel chips perform better clock for clock than the AMD counterparts.

If I was going to start over I would go Intel.

The main reason I didn't try to get you to switch is because you were asking a specific question and I didn't want to muddy it with AMD vs Intel stuff.

That said...

I would go with an Intel based build.

I would choose an i5 over an i7 if it was predominantly for gaming and standard use. Basically anything other than 3d rendering or heavy HD video editing. (the difference in chips is that i7's have hyperthreading enabled, and most programs don't use it)

I would go with 8GB of RAM (16 if I really felt it was necessary)

I would get a GTX 780 Ti graphics card (will play everything on ultra, and should be fine for 3x1080 monitors) or a 290x

I would get an 850W PSU (plenty for what I have, and plenty if I wanted to go SLI in the future)

I would get an enclosed loop watercooler for my CPU, and leave the graphics card as is (I would get an aftermarket card, not reference. such as the MSI Twin Frozr or Asus DCU2)

Full Custom Watercooling loops are cool, but they are costly and time consuming to setup, there is substantial testing required, and they need to be drained and cleaned on occasion.



Pretty well summed up. I'd like to add some points, with your permission :) 

- If building from scratch, i also recommend building with an intel CPU. Preferably an i5 4670k. You will see an obvious boost in games compared to 1090t.

- You can prefer an i7 4770k if you do production works ( 3D editing, video editing etc)

- I still do not recommend AMD R9 290/X at this time. Pick this only if you are going to use water cooling.

- Water cooling is very good but i have never used one and i don't know if it is easy to install or practical for the price. An i5 4670k wouldn't need a water cooling solution for little/mediocre overclocks. A Hyper 212 Evo air cooler will work out of the box, and will probably be more than enough (and relatively cheap) if you are not a heavy overclocker.

- For now you can get 1 GPU and get another 1 down the road, if need be in the future. Your current display has a resolution of 1440x900. This resolution is relatively low and a R9 290 or a GTX 780 would be overkill for this monitor. Even a R9 280X will be more than enough for now.

-In this sense, I would take Marcopolo123's build and itzdanielp's recommendations for good. Just remember i don't recommend R9 290/X for now. But if you can wait, there will be better versions in a month
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