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Hi. I am just wondering what should I choose between 760 and 7970?
Will there be any bottle neck with any of these cards when using a system with Kingston 8GB, Intel Core i5-3470, ASRock Z77 Extreme4, Western Digital 1TB 7200RPM.

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Disregard the newer AMD cards since I think they're slightly more expensive. There are currently some issues being sorted in driver that may skew benchmark results (temperature-based throttling) for the new AMD cards. Not saying don't get one, just that I don't know if I can accurately give advice until some cards are re-tested with the latest drivers.

Then look at the benchmark I provided in my reply above. I believe a STOCK 760 is just below a 670 (barely).

Again, be very careful to factor the following:
1) Total cost
2) SUBTRACT Games value
(Would you buy them anyway? Or sell? What is the Steam cost of each game? (NVidia games are all new).
3) PERFORMANCE (see...
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You should also factor in the price of GAMES.

NVidia currently has THREE great games with 770/780. I've been recommending the Asus GTX770 which is $330 but it's pretty great if you subtract the game cost. I'm not a fanboy, I recommended AMD when they had deals. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7430/nvidia-announces-holiday-geforce-game-bundles

BENCHMARKS (average of many games):
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_770_Direct_Cu_II_OC/27.html

If you still are interested in an HD7950/70 keep in mind there are different frequencies (performance), coolers (noise), pricing, game deals etc.

There are also G-Sync, NVidia-only (for now) monitors coming in 2014 and that tech is amazing:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7436/nvidias-gsync-attempting-to-revolutionize-gaming-via-smoothness

Specifically for G-Sync:
"Next up was disabling v-sync with hopes of reducing stuttering, resulting in both stuttering (still refresh rate/fps mismatch) and now tearing. The G-Sync system, once again, handled the test case perfectly. It delivered the same smoothness and visual experience as if the we were looking at a game rendering perfectly at a constant 60 fps. "
 
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Both are very good cards and both will perform well on most of what you throw at them though the 7970 often outperforms the 760. There are some benchmarks with both on AnandTech's 760 Review.
The AMD cards have the Never Settle Forever game pack while the 760 will come with Assassin's Creed Black Flag and the new Splinter Blacklist.

Nvidia has physx if you care about that, AMD will have mantle which should increase performance on games that will make use of it, and as photonboy said, Nvidia is going to have G-sync enabled monitors which seems very promising though it probably won't be cheap when those monitors are realeased.
 
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I saw that 7970 outperforms the 760, in most cases. But still I was thinking to get the 760 as this is a newer card then the 7970, thus more future proof.
Any other options that I would have under the 300 £ with a solid performance?
 
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Disregard the newer AMD cards since I think they're slightly more expensive. There are currently some issues being sorted in driver that may skew benchmark results (temperature-based throttling) for the new AMD cards. Not saying don't get one, just that I don't know if I can accurately give advice until some cards are re-tested with the latest drivers.

Then look at the benchmark I provided in my reply above. I believe a STOCK 760 is just below a 670 (barely).

Again, be very careful to factor the following:
1) Total cost
2) SUBTRACT Games value
(Would you buy them anyway? Or sell? What is the Steam cost of each game? (NVidia games are all new).
3) PERFORMANCE (see benchmark)
4) GPU frequency (apples-to-apples; can't compare 850MHz HD7970 to 1000MHz/1GHz HD7970 for example).

5) Cooling solution: noise/overclocking (some cheaper cards have noisier fans)
6) Customer reviews (see if a card is known to fail, or is much noisier than other similar cards).

7) AMD vs NVidia features (PhysX, Shadowplay, G-Sync for future monitor)
8) SLI vs Crossfire (if a future issue)

My advice is take the above advice and compare cards on PAPER. Concentrate first on value, including the games.

I'm not going to recommend a particular card anymore, and if you decide on an HD7970 at least get one with a great cooler, but I encourage you to take a bit of time and lay out all the details and make a really informed decision.
 
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I can't agree anymore. With special emphasis on 1) Performance, 2) Budget, 3) Noise and Fan Issues, 4) Does a particular model/maker always crash.

Photonboy spot on suggestions.
 
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For the moment I am really trying to understand performance wise which is better for the money. Also I am taking into consideration noise and temperature. I saw mostly that the 7970 and the r9-280x are basically the same and they are slightly faster than 670, 760. only the 770 it is catching up performance wise with the mentioned AMD counterpart in my opinion.
So the AMD are better formers for the money.
As for the temperature and noise, I know that generally Nvidia are the winters here. Also regarding features like G-sync that (I don't think I will invest in such a monitor as they will be a bit expensive)
PhysX, Shadowplay , I am not sure these technologies that they could change my decision in buying a card or another. ( same for the G-sync.
Also games don't weight much also in my decision.

Therefore, it is mostly performance for the money that I am trying to get here. In second place noise level and temperature ( I would not over clock them, but I did hear that the r9-280x is slightly quieter than the 7970- not entirely sure about that).

I am leaning more for the r9-280x to be hones, even if I do know that nvidia have more solid cards generally speaking.


 
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Cool! If you are indeed going for the R9 280x, here's a list of some and their respective noises output (not all brands). Noise matters to me, so yeah...

>>> http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/radeon-r9-280x-third-party-round-up,review-32817-5.html
 
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