AMD vs Intel builds at different price points - bang for buck

crimson87

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HI I think I'll be buying a gaming pc on the next few months after I sell my consoles and a blu ray player. My approach would be having a solid platform which I can upgrade in a year and a half or 2 vs a sweet spot build offering very good performance and slight future proofing:

Since I am selling my consoles but keeping some games , I would like to play Dolphin and the PS2 emulator.

Intel's "Please insert Volta card" build


CPU: I5 4670k (I'll be relying on Integrated graphics until Volta is released , I 've never been a pc gamer so that IGPU will play older games just fine)

MB: ASUS Gryphon MB (As I'll use an IGPU I'll have to get a MB with HDMI output , don't need SLI/CF support) Please tell me if there are cheaper choices with these features

RAM: 4 X 2 GSkill Sniper

HDD:WD Blue 1 TB

CASE:Thermaltake Commander

PSU:ANTEC 750W Green Bronze Plus

Price: Around 630 USD in my country

Once I'll buy the GPU I'll also add 8 extra gigs of ram , a SSD and a CPU cooler to OC if necessary.

AMD's "I won't play the waiting game" build

CPU : FX 6300 (is it that bad at emulating and RTS?) A low end I5 would be better? How much can I improve single core performance OC'ing in air?

CPU COOLER : Cooler Master 212 Hyper

MB:Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 (I would gladly cut some USD from here , I am open to hearing any suggestions)

HDD/RAM : Same as above build

CASE: Thermaltake V3 Black Edition

PSU: CoolerMaster 550W Extreme PLus

GPU: HIS HD7950 3Gb GDDR5 IceQ Boost Clock (I believe it can be OC'ed to 7970 levels) or similar performance GTX 7XX or AMD R9 GPU

Price: Around 700 USD

BTW I'll be playing in 1080p but I would like to have as much VRAM as possible in case I need to install high res texture mods.

Thanks!

Is all about the difference in cost between Intel and AMD and also about having performance today vs future proofing. Intel's build is pretty expensive to be relying just on HD 4600 graphics. For a couple of bucks more I could get an amazing AMD build.
Besides , who knows if I could pair a high end Volta with my PSU...
 

IRONBATMAN

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where do you live and what is your budget ?
Do you really want to overclock ? you won't see a big difference , and you might also decrease the life span of your parts.

These articles may help.
PSU
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1804779/power-supply-unit-tier-list.html

CPU
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-6.html

GPU Bundles
AMD
http://sites.amd.com/us/promo/never-settle/Pages/nsreloadedforever.aspx

Nvidia
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crimson87

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Hi , I live in Argentina , but converted the prices to 1st world ones so that US and European users have less hassle. Those builds would cost around US$ 1400 here.

This would be my first gaming pc. Honestly , I wouldn't want to OC , but my intention is to keep up with next gen consoles. I know those will have low power APU's but we will always get a poorly coded CPU bound port requiring more performance. And when it comes to gaming CPU's , high end unlocked I5's seem to be the de facto standard.

Also I believe 3 GB of VRAM would be Ok for just 18 months tops. Heck , DICE recomends that ammount for BF4 now! Ideally I would like to get 6GB VRAM but I can't afford Titan (poor value anyway)

All in all , I am just a bit confused and scared (or would I say scarred?) since the only time I had a gaming pc ( Athlon 64 3200+ , ATI Radeon 9600 PRO , 1GB DDR) 360 came out in just a couple of months and tore it apart. Couldn't even play Oblivion in decent settings.

About the budget , I woudn't mind spending an extra buck if that meant more future proofing. I know I could get amazing value today wiith something like I3 + GTX 650 ti Boost , but that pc would be old news in about a year.
 

crimson87

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No , don't get me wrong. I know pc is the way to go. But I want my build to be relevant for a while without breaking the bank. here 4670k costs twice as much as FX 6300. Do they have that poor performance per core? Also Z87 boards are really expensive. In case FX 6300 or 8320 are good enough. I would pair those with a 4GB R9 280x with an aftermarket cooling solution and don't worry any more.
But I am seeing FX processors struggle with BF4 and that worries me. Next gen hasn't even started. I want to play Star Citizen , Watch Dogs and Titanfall with 60FPS and decent settings.
 

Alpha-Black

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Here you go mate.This rig will rip off the soul out of any game new or old.
it will run anything much much better then AMD Fx6300. and will out run FX-8350 in many regards like gaming or application running.
and you don't need to upgrade it for next 3 to 4 years trust me.i'm not saying that new tech is not coming in next years but this rig will be enough for anything you want to run on it

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/20apw
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/20apw/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/20apw/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 290X 4GB Video Card ($595.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1376.79
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-10 10:46 EST-0500)
 

IRONBATMAN

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He lives in Argentina. Newegg doesn't ship there
 
Bump up the GPU to a 7950 or 7970 and keep everything else the same :

i5 3350p
A decent B75 or H77 board (MSI B75-MA-P45)
HD 7950/7970
2x4GB RAM
A decent 550W+ PSU

FX 6300
A decent 970 board (Asrock 970 Extreme 3 | Asus M5A97)
HD 7950/7970
2x4GB RAM
A decent 550W+ PSU
 

crimson87

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Thanks everyone for your responses. I thought about the following , what about buying a 600 dollar rig to play seventh gen games and 18 months of new ones. Something like I3 and 650ti boost.
Then 3 years or 4 from now I could build another 600 dollar pc that will be more future proof than a 1200 dollars pc built right now. I mean , check what you could get with 500 bucks on 2010 and what you can get now

now

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1719614/500-dollar-gaming-build.html

2010

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-gpu-overclock,2659.html

That was a huge difference. Besides I believe no matter how powerful is your pc right now , you wont make it through the gen without upgrading.