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I already get sent a computer about every 3 years from work for work use and seem to be doing ok with that as I just put in a GPU or connect some external harddrives. Been doing that since I worked for this company. But now its time for me to build my own PC for gaming and daily family use.

ATM there's a deal where I can get a FX 8350 + ASUS ROG Crosshair V Formula for $390. Or a FX 9370 with same motherboard for about +$35. If thats a good choice, what are some possible AMD builds you guys suggest as I'm not really familar with AMD's lineup or other brands for parts.

I'm leaning a bit towards Intel but if I could save money with AMD with a good build then IDM. I'm looking for reliability and longevity. I have a spare optical drive and a spare windows 8 professional. Budget $2500 thx all

 
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Yep, the Hero runs bot SLI and XFire, no problems, on DRam you want a good set and since Haswell scales well with DRAM is why I suggested 2133/2400 (good article on DRAM scaling w/ Haswell here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-haswell

and the Gskill Tridents and Sniper line are among the best available if looking at other brands look for performance sticks in 1866/8 2133/9 2400/10 or better.

On the GPUs, the reference design is nothing more than the base model, most all manufacturers add their own cooling design to the card and pre-OC the the GPUs, think the ASUS CU cooling design is about the best, followed by GigaByte's designs
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Look at a 4670K ($230) with a Asus Gryphon or Asus Z87 Plus 9 (both about $165) or the Z87A $145 - unless you do alot of rendering the 4670K is far superior in everything else (other than rendering) and OCs better) so it can scale and you can increase speed over time if you like
 
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Hello Tradesman, my current CPU from work has an i7 2600. The i5 you suggested will benefit me more then the i7?

Btw I forgot to mention my son will be the one playing games. I think he's playing alot of Call of Duty, league of legends, skyrim and what other games teen's play as I'm not too familar.

 
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DO you use/need Hyper threading? That's the biggest difference between the i5s and the i7s, my last two rigs (for me) was a i5 on both Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge which was plenty for most all I need, for Haswell, have taken on some work where the Hyper Threading really is handing (some video and GIS projects - also helps ALOT when I'm running VMs (i.e. often have Win8 and a clean version of Win7 running in them) - and yes if that's a question the 4670K is basically the best gaming CPU out there
 
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I'm not sure if I use or need it. But it seems a bit slow sometimes when I run multiple tasks. Like when I was updating windows and editing some photos for my relative, it seem a bit sluggish at times. I had a Radeon 6450 I believe as the first GPU to replace the 5450 that came with the PC. Recently couple months ago I bought a 660 TI 3gb from EVGA as my son was complaining that his games were too bad looking and low FPS.

So since we only have 1 computer in the household, I was looking to build something that would futureproof us for the next 3 years or with minimal upgrades like adding RAM , new GPU etc. I set the budget quite high for this, but not sure if I need to spend that much ;o Can you give me a sample build?
 
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Here's a pretty high end build for a lot less than your set budget. You can always spend the entire $2500 but I personally think that after a build like this you start to get diminishing returns for your spent money.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($77.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($81.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($529.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($117.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.49 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($98.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1663.36
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-10 18:44 EST-0500)
 
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I'd look at the 4770K then, the Asus Maximus VI Hero mobo, Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler, 16 GB 2x8GB GSkill Tridents 2133 or 2400, the HAF 922 midtower Case (or 912 to save a little), Asus 780 CU GPU, SeaSonic M12II 650 PSU, a Samsung 840 256 EVO or Pro SSd, 1TB WD 7200 RPM platter drive, OS, Keyboard, mouse are all a matter of preference
 
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Thanks u2 for builds, I went to my store and tried to match things up. Just a question howcome both of u picked such high RAM speed, as I thought it doesn't affect much in performance especially if I overclock my CPU a bit will the ram speeds have to be lower?

Here's what I have so far from the list the store gave me:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.75 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VI FORMULA ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($295.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1400.68
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-11 11:38 EST-0500)

The mobo they said they could give me a good deal on it with my 4770k and its probably the best one for a while as he said it comes with lots of features for gaming or for w/e I would need. Other then that he said I could go with the z87 expert from asus as well or the VI hero if I wanted to go a bit cheaper.

I left the gpu out because I didn't know which one to pick, and he said its a personal one for me, as if I spend more I get higher clocked speed or less to get lower. So I'm not really sure, the ones he had there were, zotac, asus, evga, gigabyte, msi. Can someone give me a short breakdown of which brand would be better for me?
 
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For the motherboard, I don't think it's worth the premium of the MAXIMUS VI FORMULA, maybe they're just trying to sell you the most expensive one... those high end motherboard come in handy when you want to have multi GPU setups but not even for higher overclocks they're much better than more cheap options. I'd go with the HERO, still high end for $100 less.

For the RAM, yes, the change of speed isn't that great, but when you aren't on a tight budget one tends to choose higher rated components, hence the choices.

Finally, for the GPU, if they're reference models there's no much difference between them so you may want to choose the cheaper or the one that offers a longer warranty, that's your call.

You may want to check for non reference models, like the MSI Lightning, the EVGA Superclocked with ACX Cooler or the ASUS OC DCU II.
 
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Ya I think I'll stick with the Hero motherboard, the only thing I saw different is the Wireless antenna and the armour/backplate on the formula. I may go to a multi GPU later, but I think the hero supports SLI ?

For the RAM I don't understand still when you mean higher rated components? Does more mhz means higher? or do you mean I should pick something like vengence pro / dominiontor platniums which I saw they have.

GPU I was looking at the ones with different coolers for each brand, the price seems a bit different for each one and different clock speeds. I don't think I'll be getting a reference cooler one, unless it provides some sort of benefit.
 
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Yep, the Hero runs bot SLI and XFire, no problems, on DRam you want a good set and since Haswell scales well with DRAM is why I suggested 2133/2400 (good article on DRAM scaling w/ Haswell here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-haswell

and the Gskill Tridents and Sniper line are among the best available if looking at other brands look for performance sticks in 1866/8 2133/9 2400/10 or better.

On the GPUs, the reference design is nothing more than the base model, most all manufacturers add their own cooling design to the card and pre-OC the the GPUs, think the ASUS CU cooling design is about the best, followed by GigaByte's designs
 
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Well from looking at the prices of RAM, the gSkill are significantly cheaper then corsair at a faster speed and lower latency! Thanks for the heads up on that. Think I'll also go with a ASUS gtx 780 as well. Thank you both for your tips :D
 
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