STOP saying 'bottleneck'..

gman97005

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Stop using the term 'bottleneck', it's worthless terminology. The only thing a CPU or GPU could possibly 'bottleneck' is the application you are trying to run, they don't bottleneck each other though, either they complement each other or they don't, complement is a much more effective term for describing the relationship between a CPU and a GPU, a certain CPU or GPU could complement each other and work as a team or they would they would not complement and work against each other but the term 'bottleneck' needs to washed out of the mouth and replaced with complement or compatibility. Traditionally the CPU does not offer any control of the GPU or vice versa, this has changed since the advent of the APU but you can't bottleneck another piece of hardware, either it is working in conjunction with the other components or it is not..
 

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Bottleneck is a completely useless terminology, except when used for an specific task. Not a "specific" task like gaming... a really specific task like playing X game.

For example, if you have a triple SLi Titan setup mated to a Core 2 Duo playing BF4 you may never see that power because, like the neck of a bottle, the speed at which you can process frames within the game is restricted by the CPU and thus the Titans never work at anything near full power. However, a Core 2 Duo might be plenty if your sole aim is to get as many FPS out of Half Life 2 as possible and t's more than sufficient to do all the non rendering tasks needed regardless of FPS.

What really annoys me a lot more is the term 'lag'. That is a network term and it's use in CoD and by console gamers has led them to come over to the PC space and think that when their Pc can't handle a task it's 'lagging'. No, it's only lagging if your ping sucks you ignorant twat.
 

gman97005

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fair enough, if the selected application is CPU intensive than the GPU would not bottleneck and if the application is GPU intensive than the CPU would not bottleneck, correct ?
It is totally dependent on the selected application or program being run that puts the GPU or CPU in perspective, but on the same note a slow/weak CPU mated with a fast/powerful GPU and vice versa does not complement each other..
 

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A duly proper example of a bottleneck would be: A10-6800k combined with DDR1333, the memory standard for the 6800k is DDR2133 so the 1333 RAM would bottleneck the APU .. Or cause it to 'lag', i couldn't resist :)
 

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This is exhibit A for the problem with people's usage of the term bottleneck. An old dual core mated to a 780 and an 800*600 monitor would actually be pretty well suited to quite a few tasks, price to performance wise. You could bitcoin mine (radeon would be better but gist is kept), run an adobe render node, and play a large amount of games all at good framerates due to their GPU reliance.

Sure, there are weak links in the chain for certain applications in general, but lack of understanding of the term makes this poster actually suggest that a bad screen is a bottleneck when it's an output device and therefore can't really block thoroughput.

Most importantly, you can't really call "bottleneck" until you get to the task it's carrying out and until then, you're speaking in error.