I am looking at the Gigabyte GTX 770 4gb and the AMD R9 290. I see they both have the same memory size but the 290 has a much lower clock speed. The GTX 770 has a clock speed of 1.14Ghz but the 290 has a clock speed of about 947Mhz maximum. I am wondering if the clock speed really matters that much in games like Battlefield 4?
Is memory size or clock speed more important in a graphics card?
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even with lower clocks the 290 is much faster
mhz is not directly comparable between 2 different parts
mhz is not directly comparable between 2 different parts
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The clock speed would generally be more important, but you can't compare clocks across architectures, plus you need to take the number of shaders etc. into account. The 290 is a significantly bigger/more powerful GPU, so it doesn't need as high clocks to still clearly outperform the GTX 770.
As for the memory, there are four important parameters - the type of memory, the amount, the clocks, and the bus width. They use the same type of memory and have the same amount, but the 290 has a much wider bus and that results in much more memory bandwidth despite lower clocks.
Overall, the 290 is just plain faster than the 770.
As for the memory, there are four important parameters - the type of memory, the amount, the clocks, and the bus width. They use the same type of memory and have the same amount, but the 290 has a much wider bus and that results in much more memory bandwidth despite lower clocks.
Overall, the 290 is just plain faster than the 770.
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drivers are released from AMD directly and all the manufacturers have the exact same reference card right now
there really is no difference at this point in time
there really is no difference at this point in time
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Thanks a lot! I will probably go with the 290 even though Nvidia might have better drivers. I might also wait until some companies stop using the reference design of the 290 and start making their own cooling solution. Thanks again, I marked your original post as the best answer.
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both companies are good. amd doesnt have bad drivers like some people like to claim
amd definitely has the better price/performance at most price points
good call on waiting for the non-reference cards though. as is, the 290 is a noisy beast (or hot, if not noisy.)
nvidia has some fine cards out right now, they run cool and efficient but for the price points amd is considerably better on performance.
not a fanboy either way here. i will just always go with what gets me the most for my price point.. which for serveral years now has tended to be amd.
amd definitely has the better price/performance at most price points
good call on waiting for the non-reference cards though. as is, the 290 is a noisy beast (or hot, if not noisy.)
nvidia has some fine cards out right now, they run cool and efficient but for the price points amd is considerably better on performance.
not a fanboy either way here. i will just always go with what gets me the most for my price point.. which for serveral years now has tended to be amd.
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aye, admittedly which one is "better" isnt clean cut. each has advantages and disadvantages. its complicated.
this is why i find the statement "nvidia vs amd most people would say nvidia" to be simplistic and franky, stupid.
this is why i find the statement "nvidia vs amd most people would say nvidia" to be simplistic and franky, stupid.
The same goes for me, I do not have an unlimited budget and with AMD, I can get very good parts for much cheaper than Nvidia. Also, I wasn't trying to call you a fanboy earlier. Sorry if it seemed that way. If you feel like it, check out the build I will be using the 290 in. Right now I have the reference 290 there but that is just meant to be a place filler. I will be ordering all the parts in January or December so I'm sure they will have non-reference coolers for the 290 by then.
LINK: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/jeffd1324/saved/2KGA
Feel free to critique it in anyway as I am always looking for better options.
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Yes, I have heard that Nvidia SLI is better than crossfire in some cases. But I will only be running one GPU so this will not effect me much unless I decide to crossfire in the future.
As I said to the other user before, feel free to check out my future build and critique it in anyway as I am always looking for better options.
Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/jeffd1324/saved/2KGA
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nice build
i havent looked into the newer boards so i cant be certain if its the way to go or not. that is definitely the part i would research the hell out of in regards to overclocking if i were interested in purchasing it though
i havent looked into the newer boards so i cant be certain if its the way to go or not. that is definitely the part i would research the hell out of in regards to overclocking if i were interested in purchasing it though
Thanks, will do. I only chose that one because it had pretty good reviews. Also I noticed that your i5 is @ 5.0Ghz. How are you getting it that high? I've only heard of it being stable up to 4.7Ghz or that could just be for haswell. What are you doing to cool it?
Thanks, I only picked one that high because there is a possibility that I might crossfire in May. I might even do SLI with Nvidia if they come out with a really good deal and I feel i should switch to them. Either way, I really just wanted everything in the build to be future proof, including the PSU for if I need more power later on.
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retail haswell doesnt even do 4.7
truth is i can get this cpu stable at 5.1, could probably push to 5.2 with better cooling. as is, 5 is as hard as i want to push it with my current thermals as my cooling isnt as good as it could be
in my opinion, intel hasnt made a better cpu since sandybridge. sandy, ivy and haswell are all equal in regards to the cpu performance
sandy was the best overclocker of them all. as the die shrunk, removing heat from the die has become very difficult. sandy was capable of 5ghz, ivy was capable of 4.7-4.8 and haswell is capable of about 4.4-4.5 realistically. however the ipc has increased over each generation. once you take max overclocks into account they all are about equal
truth is i can get this cpu stable at 5.1, could probably push to 5.2 with better cooling. as is, 5 is as hard as i want to push it with my current thermals as my cooling isnt as good as it could be
in my opinion, intel hasnt made a better cpu since sandybridge. sandy, ivy and haswell are all equal in regards to the cpu performance
sandy was the best overclocker of them all. as the die shrunk, removing heat from the die has become very difficult. sandy was capable of 5ghz, ivy was capable of 4.7-4.8 and haswell is capable of about 4.4-4.5 realistically. however the ipc has increased over each generation. once you take max overclocks into account they all are about equal
I really only chose Haswell over Ivy and Sandy because I don't really like buying tech that already has a newer version. Also I want to have the new motherboard since I hope Intel will keep it as a standard at least for a little bit.
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hard not to go with whats new
if i was looking for a new computer i would as well, most likely. though there is something to be said for finding a sandybridge on the cheap right now
for me, its just nice knowing there is no sense in upgrading the core of my pc. though im thinking about picking up a 290 as well
if i was looking for a new computer i would as well, most likely. though there is something to be said for finding a sandybridge on the cheap right now
for me, its just nice knowing there is no sense in upgrading the core of my pc. though im thinking about picking up a 290 as well
I heard it has stronger cores too. I originally was set on buying the AMD FX-8350, but read that the Haswell i5's have stronger cores then the 8 cores of the 8350. I think that the 8350 is better in some areas but i want to eventually upgrade to an i7 so i wanted to have the correct motherboard already.
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