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November 10, 2013 10:48:38 PM

Been saving for this for a long time. At first i was just gona buy 1 at ibuypower but decided against it because i want something that i made myself instead of just buying it.

i already have all the peripherals and a sandisk 480 GB SSD which i plan to use for the OS drive. I have basic knowledge of how to put the components together but no knowledge on deciding which components to go with. i just need help on getting a list together. i have already visited pcpartpicker to try to get a list together but i find myself picking components which have a cooler name :p 

i have decided to go with NZXT phantom 820 case gunmetal i just need help with the rest. thx in advance and any help would be greatly appreciated.

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November 10, 2013 10:59:46 PM

Damn 480GB SSD that'd be sweet haha
Here's a list of parts, I'd wait for aftermarket 290s though since the reference cooled 290s run over 90 degrees

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/20zWC

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.75 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($406.13 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($406.13 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Grey) ATX Full Tower Case ($238.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 1050W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($177.04 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($16.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $2058.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-11 01:59 EST-0500)


EDIT/Update: Sorry made some bad mistakes with this listing (yes I'll admit I'm the derp), the Asus Z87-A is a much better board for the price against the similarly priced Extreme4

Also went a bit overboard with the 1050W Seasonic PSU (though that's probably one of the best PSUs you'll ever see in your lifetime)

Similarly, going with a single stick of 8GB DDR3 will ensure maximum ram upgrade capacity in the future should you decide to turn this into a productivity based build (hence leaving the 4770k in there being the most logical choice)

Given that the Aftermarket 290s are just coming out, and Crossfire is still a tad dodgy combined with the fact that Litecoin mining has caused prices to skyrocket, a single 780 is the most attractive option, at 1080p especially in which we all just followed the budget and overdone it a tad where a 1080p gaming beast can be had easily for under $1500

Combined listing as of late December 2013 (bear in mind prices fluctuate so the Extreme4 is $30 cheaper than it was before)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($315.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($499.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1384.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-26 10:00 EST-0500)
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November 10, 2013 11:15:19 PM

thx for the quick reply. Now i have something to go with. Just a little confused on what you meant on the after market 290 graphic cards. any example on what aftermerket cards i should go with
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November 10, 2013 11:19:35 PM

They're not out yet, I meant the 290 cards with non reference coolers that are going to come out, the current reference coolers on these cards are not very good
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November 10, 2013 11:30:19 PM

oo ok. thx again. just another quick question.would it make sense if i replace the 2x 290 and go with a GTX 780 Ti. i can use the extra cash and get some other stuff i wanted but was on hold
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November 10, 2013 11:44:03 PM

That would make sense, crossfire 290s are much more powerful than a single 780 Ti but you'll have greater stability with a single 780 Ti. I'd also wait for a non reference 780 Ti to come out before purchasing though.
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November 10, 2013 11:46:20 PM

thx man. i really appreciate you taking your time to answer my questions.
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November 11, 2013 12:13:12 AM

Have fun with that high end gaming :D 
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November 11, 2013 12:21:32 AM

I am not so satisfied with the build he suggested above.

1. It has 3TB HDD which is something probably no one would ever use. Also Toshiba does not make the best HDD on the market.

2. A build that costs so much should have at least a SSD. (Edit : Sorry, read the post, he already has a SSD, but other points are valid.)

3. Also AMD crossfire is not stable enough to recommend at this particular stage. You will definitely notice dropped frames with this build since there are a lot of issues with crossfire. Better go for 2x780 SLI.

4. Also I do not suggest going for such a expensive case. For a hundred dollars less get the Cooler Master Storm Stryker which is a very good gaming case. That is clearly overspending. Fractal Design Define R4 can be had for just about 100 dollars. Still it is a very good case, even for extreme builds. You do not need to spend so much on the case.

5. Go for the Asus Z87-A board instead of the Asrock Z87 Extreme 4.

6. AMD R9-290 has overheating issues and is very noisy. And two of those would run way too hot and way too noisy to recommend.

I seriously do not recommend the build above. Crossfire is still not in a situation to drop 800 dollars into it. Go for the SLI configuration instead.

Hence I suggest you to overlook at your decision and if you are spending like 2000 bucks then you should wait for replies from few more people. You should wait for a few more replies.
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November 11, 2013 12:23:03 AM

Please note he already has a 480GB SSD ready, that 3tb would be decent for a pure storage drive, two 1tb WD drives would be good too.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-h...

He requested to include the case into the build, point noted onto the motherboard.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z87k

Crossfire is unstable atm for sure, bear in mind I already noted the heat issues of the 290 (hence why waiting for aftermarket versions), waiting would be a good option.

Then again, getting a 780 Ti right now and SLI in future would also be a great option.

It's merely a list to consider, nothing is finalized yet
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November 11, 2013 1:08:17 AM

This is the build that I suggest :

+ i7 4770k, best gaming CPU on the market right now.
+ Phanteks PH-TC14PE, one of the best CPU coolers, runs quiet and cool
+ Nvidia 780 SLI is just awesome and much more stable than crossfire.
+ 850W XFX PSU, Fully Modular, 80+ Gold is more than enough for this build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.75 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.15 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($127.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($480.49 @ B&H)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($480.49 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Stryker (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($139.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1964.32
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-11 04:10 EST-0500)

I hope you like this build.
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November 11, 2013 1:18:07 AM

The ASUS 780 for $20 or so more would be a better choice in terms of cooling

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx780dc2o...

Also if you're not video rendering/editing/photoshopping then you can save $100 (to spend towards some other parts) and opt for the 4670k, if not then keep the i7

Gaming wise the performance between the 4670k and 4770k is fairly close, games which take advantage of the HT technology like BF3 perform better with the 4770k.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i5_4670K_...


I'd hardly call that Seagate Drive decent either due to the aggressive APM, but disable it using something like QuietHDD and you should be fine.

Modified alternative you could look into

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/20E3D

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.15 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital AV-GP 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper ATX Full Tower Case ($144.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($16.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $1969.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-11 08:07 EST-0500)

As already mentioned, you could go with a single 780 Ti (wait for an aftermarket one to be released) for now and SLI that in the future. The SLI option would be best if you're going with multiple HD displays.
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November 11, 2013 12:04:26 PM

hey yea i didn't decide on a final build yet as i plan to buy all the parts during black Friday and cyber Monday. after going through what both you guys said i came up with this build and i would like you guys opinion.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/20N22

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital AV-GP 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($516.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Grey) ATX Full Tower Case ($238.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1666.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-11 14:55 EST-0500)

i plan to run 2 monitors only. A asus 24 inch 1920 x 1080 for gaming and a samsung 46 inch led tv for watching movies and all the other stuff. hence thats why i only added 1 gtx 780. do u guys think this will be enough? i do have a $2000 budget but if i can do it cheaper and still get really good gaming out of it i dont mind As for the case guys i know that there are cheaper cases that do exactly the same stuff but i really like the NZXT phantom 820 gun metal case. when i first saw the case i was sold. So what do you guys think
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November 11, 2013 2:47:04 PM

It's your money so spend it however you like :D 

If you're going to stick with a single card for now the 780 is already more than powerful enough for 1080p gaming, if you don't mind the extra cash, the 780 Ti is the best single GPU solution on the market

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1JOhT015ww
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November 11, 2013 4:29:28 PM

Humm I think ill go with the 680 ti. So further down the line I can pop in another 680 ti and run sli ( I meant the 780 ti ) had the numbers confused lol
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November 11, 2013 4:43:11 PM

You mean the 780 Ti right? haha, that's the best single GPU on the market right now
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November 11, 2013 5:00:33 PM

If I were you then I would just go with the single best card I could get. .. And right now the best card is the 780ti.
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November 11, 2013 5:10:01 PM

Yea I meant the 780 ti lol
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November 11, 2013 5:32:34 PM

Yea I plan to buy the asus 780ti when it comes out. After I check the reviews that is
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November 11, 2013 5:45:14 PM

Can't go wrong with Asus
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November 14, 2013 7:27:42 AM

Wait a minute.. The HDD that is the WD AV-GP model that you have mentioned there is very old and hence not at all fit for today's standards.

Hence you should not go for the HDD.

Better go for the 2TB 7200RPM Seagate Barracuda that I posted a link to. That is a much better HDD.

Also why stick with a single GPU when you can go dual GPU's? Two 780 would perform simply perform hell awesome.
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November 14, 2013 7:40:54 AM

Since this is gaming, you don't need 16gb of ram. 2x4gb is enough: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-memory-bls2kit4g3d...
You won't notice any performance decrease in games.

Aircooling will perform closely to the Corsair H100i, but it is much more quieter and cheaper: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-cpu-cooler-phtc14...

How do you like this case? http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-caph410g1
It's basically a smaller version of the Phantom 820 and much cheaper.

Only very few select games (Crysis 3, bf3, and bf4) take advantage of hyper-threading. Even then, it only shows a 4-5 fps increase over the i5. I would say save the $100 and go with an i5-4670k. It will still provide a fantastic gaming experience.

A single GTX 780 is more than enough for 1080p gaming. You can grab the GTX 780 ti, but it is obviously more expensive and you'll have to wait a bit.
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November 14, 2013 2:18:29 PM

Why go dual GPUs and deal with all the problems related to it when a single powerful GPU is sufficient for the moment I guess, If you're willing to get a 780 Ti then might as well go for it, you'll always have room for a future SLI option with it.

BF3 is one of the few games I see where the 4770k wins out the 4670k by about 5-7 frames and the $100 premium isn't justified unless op is going for video editing/rendering which would also justify the extra RAM (which he did not specify). That being said however, BF4 and upcoming games do seem to benefit from the HT so we'll wait and see how everything comes down, especially with Mantle on the way

Go for the Seagate Drive if you want great capacity per dollar, disable the APM to get rid of the "chirping" (constant parking and unparking of the heads) which would otherwise render the drive dead after a few months. (Funny thing is that it comes in two versions, ones you buy from reputable vendors are 2x1TB platters, and there are slower versions with 3x666GB platters)

For reference, I only got one of them because the majority of WD's offerings over 1TB either run at 5400RPM or are too expensive.
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