Solved

Terrible FPS in WoW 25-man raids & other newer games.

Before the latest expansion my FPS in 25-mans stayed north of 30 fps on Ultra settings, I quit for about 8 months and recently came back for patch 5.4. For some reason in 25 man raids my fps now drops down to between 5-10 fps. When I glance at my second monitor I notice that my GPU usage is matching my FPS number to number. If I'm getting 5fps, my GPU is at 5%, If I'm getting 15 FPS the GPU is at 15% and so on. My CPU during these FPS drops will only be at 75-80% load. To help alleviate this problem I turned the graphics down to medium settings (except view distance, textures, and env draw) and now everything runs fine.

I'm 90% sure that my CPU is the problem here, no L3 cache, very small L2 cache, and being an AMD, OC'd 3840 mhz is pretty low too. I was considering buying a new Intel I5 CPU and motherboard, but instead I bought a FX-6350 (all that my budget could handle) I almost bought the FX-4350, but I like to have Itunes, Hulu or Netflix playing on my other monitor and I figured that despite a 300mhz loss, the extra 2 cores would help out with that. The new processor should be at my door when I get home today.

What kind of performance increase should I see with this processor? Besides WoW I play games like Skyrim, AC3, Dishonored, Tomb Raider, BF3, and probably BF4 when the price comes down.

How much of a "bottleneck" has this CPU been on my GTX 580 Lightning?

My computer is setup as follows:
ASrock 990FX extreme4
4x 4gb Corsair XMS3 2000 mhz
1x MSI GTX 580 Lightning (OC to 900 mhz)
1x Recon3d PCIe sound card
1x AMD Phenom II X4 840 @ 3840 mhz (20% OC)
1x Corsair H100 (2x AP120 fans)
1x OCZ Vertex 3 128gb SSD
1x WD 1tb storage drive
1x Corsair 700gs PSU
NZXT Phantom case with both top exhaust fans, 2 small side and 1 big side intakes, 140mm front intake, rear exhaust (h100 mounted under top exhaust fans with AP120s mounted under pushing up)
1x 23.5" Acer 1920x1080 1ms
1x 20" Acer 1600x900 1ms (for HW monitoring)
6 answers Last reply Best Answer
More about terrible fps wow man raids newer games
  1. well my system is nearing 7 years old ... intel core 2 duo at 2.4 ghz . my only new item so far is an ocz vertex 4 ssd. My frame rates have not dropped in raiding. So I doubt it is your cpu now causing you issues. I have no suggestions tho ...save mentioning over-heating possibly throttling your gpu. But even it that were true.. it would not go down to 5%. So ya, I will stick with the cpu is prolly fine :)
  2. redstar said:
    well my system is nearing 7 years old ... intel core 2 duo at 2.4 ghz . my only new item so far is an ocz vertex 4 ssd. My frame rates have not dropped in raiding. So I doubt it is your cpu now causing you issues. I have no suggestions tho ...save mentioning over-heating possibly throttling your gpu. But even it that were true.. it would not go down to 5%. So ya, I will stick with the cpu is prolly fine :)


    But what are your graphics set to? The thing with WoW is performance varies wildly system to system, and being a CPU intensive game, I can only imagine upgrading my CPU will help performance. Some systems should blaze WoW no problem yet they have low FPS for no reason, while other seemingly low spec systems run the game just fine. It seems to be a common issue where older Intel setups still run the game fine where brand new Intel and AMD setups have the same issues that I am experiencing. I have guild mates who run similar Intel chips to you and they didnt experience any FPS drop with the expansion or patches, but they arent running on ultra settings.

    Like I said, before the expansion on Ultra settings I was getting 30+ fps in raids, with drops to 20-25 when things got really heated, but now I get 15 fps max once we engage the boss or a group of enemies.

    I will install the new CPU tonight and see how it goes. I will report back to help others in a similar situation.

    Also heat is not an issue, my CPU load temps are never above 30 Celsius and my GPU never tops 60 Celsius.
  3. To be clear, in games like BF3 I can run on ultra settings and I get 45+ fps with over 90% GPU usage, so I know the GPU isnt the issue.
  4. Best answer
    I have seen many threads now with your issue..and I must say I am very surprised that new hardware so dramatically impacts on performance of wow.

    it is a small subset..but still surprisingly large sample I have seen so far. So far, I have not seen anyone solve the issue. but I am still looking also. Good Lucks

    edit: one thing I notice ... although my settings are high ... I have shadows turned off as that did bring my system to its knees.

    have you tried turning off shadows and oh your medium settings work fine .. so it prolly is just one setting that is killing your ultra performance.?
  5. Yes, with the settings on medium I see 30-45 FPS in raids, and 60 in the open world. Shadows are turned to medium also. Only settings still on ultra are view distance, textures and ground clutter view distance. However I would love to go back to ultra settings! Hopefully this CPU will get me there.
  6. Ok so new processor is installed and running great, haven't OC yet but I will soon.

    All I can say is WOW! This processor is amazing! I set everything to ultra except shadows which I set to high, and multisampling set to 2. My FPS in cities went up to 60, my FPS in 25 mans went up to 30-45 on boss/enemies and 60 between fights. Even with shadows on ultra it never dipped below 25 FPS. The game is now perfectly playable! I highly recommend the FX-6350 to anyone with an AM3+ socket still using an AM3 CPU.

    On a side note, my idle temps are now extremely cold. 12-15 Celsius! My load temps are around 25-28 Celcius. I haven't started to OC yet though. I used coolermaster ThermalFusion 400 compound and its doing great!

    Next I will test AC3, Dishonored and TR and I'll report on those as well.
Ask a new question

Read More

Corsair ASrock Computers FPS Graphics World Of Warcraft