CPU or MB might be fried - did I miss anything?

sney

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Hello,

I have a homebuilt system that I've been using for almost a year. The specs are:

AMD FX-8320
MSI 970A-G46
Patriot Viper 3 2x4GB DDR3-1866 kit (9-10-9-27)
Galaxy Geforce GTX 560 MDT
650W Antec PSU
as well as a SSD and a 1TB Seagate data drive.

While cleaning my home office, I had to move the computer out in to the hall. Once cleaning was done, I brought it back in, set it up, and turned it on. It ran for about a half hour and hard locked. I rebooted and it bluescreened rather quickly. Opened the case and it turned out a loose power cable had fallen into the cpu fan and kept it from turning. I took everything apart, checked for visible heat damage (couldn't see any, but the motherboard PCB is black so it might not be visible) re-seated all the components, reapplied the thermal grease, and powered on with the case open. Fans were all working normally again. The system POSTed once, booted partway, and hard locked. Now it doesn't POST at all or even display the video card info blurb at power-on.

All motherboard power connectors are in, including the 8-pin CPU power and both PCI-e connectors on the video card. I tried with 1 DIMM and no change. The only thing that happens when I turn the system on is all 4 of the CPU_PHASE LEDs next to the 8-pin socket blink, once, twice, three times, and then twice again. Helpfully, the motherboard manual has NOTHING written to decode these blinking lights.

After googling around some I found out that the 970A-G46 is not considered to be very good, maybe especially in combination with an 8-core AMD FX. I didn't know that when I bought them, but this CPU *is* in the support list on the MSI website.

I called a local computer shop and they said they would charge me $50 to test the CPU, since I didn't buy it from them. I'd really rather not do that. Is there anything else I can do to determine if it's the motherboard or CPU, so I know which one to replace?
 
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see the cpu support list maybe you could find one cheap that bee on her to try test the board so you find if it is the board oor the cpu .

sney

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My wife's computer has an Athlon II X4 in it, I could try that in my system to see if it boots. A socket AM3 CPU should work fine in an AM3+ board, right?

Edit: yeah, the MSI site's CPU support list is full of Athlon IIs. I'll report back.
 

sney

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Ok, it didn't boot with the Athlon II installed. Looks like I'm buying a new motherboard. At least those are cheaper than the CPUs.

Looks like I'll be picking up one of these:
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX41314
or
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX47194

I got burned a few times in the early '00s by Asus's shaky QA, but then I got old and stopped paying attention to hardware and I've heard that in that time they got their act together. Eh, for year-old technology it probably doesn't make a practical difference anyway. I'll report back to confirm it worked.
 

sney

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Ok, new motherboard (the Asus) has brought my computer back to life. Windows is being an ass and grub disappeared but those are things I can handle myself. Since your suggestion to check with a different CPU is what narrowed it down correctly, I'll call that the best answer.

Nice lovebird, by the way. They're cool animals. I have a Fischer's.