Overclock 2 EVGA GTX 660 Superclocked

tonkpills

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Hello forum,

I recently purchased Battlefield 4 just to find out that my specs are not optimal for some multiplayer maps, specially the ones that are extremely large and with a lot of vegetation. The issue is FPS drops in certain maps, no all of them and not all the time. I'm using Fraps to monitor the FPS and it doesn't go higher than 60 (what is that about?). I'm seeing the overlay of the SLI working on the games so I suppose it's working. So on certain maps after 15 min of gameplay it starts to get a little bit slower and I see the FPS drops to 10 or so when I move or turn around suddenly. I use also Nvidia Experience and I "optimized" the game with the profile that they suggested me which is almost all in Ultra settings, 4X FXAA, HBAO, no motion blur and 60 Field of View.

I started to investigate if I do a little overclock of my 2 cards would help but I don't want to mess up my cards. I'm using EVGA Precision X V.4.2.1. Latest Nvidia drivers updated yesterday, clean installation.

Also before we start overclocking, if get to that part, I would like to say that I tested my cards with MSI Kombustor to test my SLI because I thought that that might be the problem and I noticed that when I run any Kombustor stress test 1080 or 720 the only card reaching 95%+ usage is the main one and the other is at 3 or so %. Why? Is Kombustor not recognizing the second card or that's why BF4 sometimes experience FPS drops? Because the second card it's like not working at all?

The interesting thing here is that I have also Batman Arkham Origins and I know they are not the same in terms of graphics however BAO is not that behind and it runs smoothly, 55 - 60 all the time, and lets take note that this game also uses PhysX.

My specs:

Motherboard: Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 latest BIOS
Processor: AMD FX 8150 Black Edition 8-core OC @ 4.2 Ghz
Memory: Kingston Hyper-X KHX16009D3B1 4 GB x 2 (8 GB) @1600
Video: X2 EVGA GTX 660 Superclocked 2GB (SLI)
PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000W 80 Plus Bronze
Cooling: Corsair H100i
Case: Cooler Master Haf-X

Drives:
ADATA XPG SX900 128GB SSD (Boot)
Seagate 1Tb (Storage)
WD Green 1Tb (Storage)
WD Mybook 1Tb (Storage)


Thank you in advance. Hope you can help.


 

ZionZA

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The frame drops aren't because of your cards and overclocking them won't help. Your frames being locked at 60 is probably due to V-Sync being enabled.
I have 2 660's and the average usage on them is around 60-70% each with Ultra on Battlefield 4. With Vsync off on this I get roughly 95 frames per second. But I Also get frame drops. Its something in the game causing this. I've checked RAM, CPU usage, VRAM Usage etc etc. And all is fine. A lot of people have this problem and are waiting and hoping for DICE to release a patch to address this issue.

So If I were I wouldn't do anything to the system or graphics cards.

Also check that SLI is enabled for your cards in Nvidia Control panel

Has to be set to "maximize 3d performance" or something like that.
 


Firstly, abandon GF experience. It's rubbish, and although it says it optimizes games, that's a joke. With latest driver it installs automatically, and I ran GF experience just to see what it was like. With a 560ti and a Q6600 it told me to set BF4 on the same settings you have above. Rediclous. It's just not gonna work.

With your own issues, firstly I would dial back AA and post processing. Turn off HBAO or at least reduce it to SSAO. See how it goes then. With such high in game settings you will be touching the 2gb limit on your GPU/s. Don't forget that just because you SLI doesn't mean the Frame buffer is doubled. Your still working off a max of 2gb. Take a look at this graph below, which a fellow poster put up in another post. It shows the vram usage at various resolutions, and different settings. At the settings you have applied you gonna be pushing 2.5+gb of vram usage, which is why you have slow downs.

http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=7368
 

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Actually. With 2 660's on 1080p with everthing set to max your VRAM usage is about 1.5gb on average. 1600 max. I've tested this personally
 

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Thanks to all.

I contacted EA and they say that I should be OK with Ultra, 4X FXAA and HBAO with my current PC specs, so I think is the game as ZionAZ said. How come Batman AO and Crysis 3 run perfectly? Is there another way to unlock the frames other than turn off V-Sync? I hate that terrible line when you move to fast with out V-Sync enabled.

Also, yes SLI is enabled I can see the overlay of "SLI" and the green bar on my left side of the screen.

So anyone knows why MSI Kombustor just uses 1 GPU on it's tests and the other is only at 3 or 5%? How can even things out and use the cards evenly?
 

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Maybe its just a setting in kombustor?
 

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Yeah I thought of that. Any other way to truly test the SLI and see if both cards are working equally?
 

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Thanks for the suggestions.

However before posting I did a bunch of testing and even with all settings set to Medium, No AA, etc the FPS drops. Just in two or three maps, Parcel Storm and Hainan Resort are the most affected. So I don't think it's my system. Also Crysis 3 is running with almost all in very high settings 4x MSAA at 35 - 45 FPS with almost no drops just when there are to many explotions.
 

tonkpills

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Hello All,

After some exhausting series of tests yesterday I finally resolved the problem.

First the tests to those who experience similar issues:
I first tested the cards one by one uninstalling nvidia drivers from scratch and I noticed that both cards worked perfectly. I actually noticed that I could play BF4 with High settings using just one card and no V-sync getting good 30-40 FPS.

So my cards are ok. Something that was itching my neck was that thing with Kombustor that it only was using one card at the time of the tests. Actually Kombustor also monitors the performance of your cards during a gameplay. So I also noticed that my primary card was at 95%+ and the second one was at zero or maximum 5% usage.

So playing with Nvidia control panel settings I came across with the option "Multi-display / mixed GPU acceleration" which it was at "Multiple display performance mode". And the other option I noticed was "SLI Performance mode" which was on "Nvidia recommended" or something like that.

I changed "Multi-display / mixed GPU acceleration" to "Single display performance mode" and "SLI Performance mode" to "Force Alternate frame Rendering 2".

After doing this I can see both cards working at 60%+ at the same time with much better performance in games.

The thing is that Nvidia was leaving the second card just for PhysX. I noticed that when I ran a PhysX test on Kombustor. When PhysX came on screen the second card start to being used and the first one didn't. For 3D rendering just the first and the second didn't.

So now I'm playing BF4 all ultra 4X FXAA, HBAO, no V-Sync, and I'm getting 50- 60+ FPS.

Thank you all for your help and tips. And I hope this help somebody else with SLI performance.

Best regards.