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November 13, 2013 7:12:02 AM

Is this a good gaming rig? Will it handle current and next-gen games on at least high settings with solid, good FPS and mods? Will it also be good for video editing? When do I need a new graphics card and should I upgrade to 16gigs of RAM instead of just 8? If so, can I put that off for while to save up more? Here is the link and many thanks in advance!

Here is the link: http://www.amazon.co.uk/GAMING-INTEL-Generation-DDR5-VG...
November 13, 2013 7:16:51 AM

The video card and ram is not very good. This is what I don't really like about prebuilt computers but if you did upgrade the video card and RAM to a 16gb 1866mhz and a 760 or 280x it would be good.
a b 4 Gaming
November 13, 2013 7:17:12 AM

The PC will be good for video editing... but that's about it. With that GPU, you might be lucky to pull of medium.
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a b 4 Gaming
November 13, 2013 7:18:24 AM

I think companies nowadays are doing this Marketing trick. You seem to be the victim of it. They put really good CPU in the rig , but really lousy GPU. 16GB of RAM would be good for 3D animation and video rendering.

Go build your own computer !!! you'll feel proud of yourself. It's not difficult nowadays with all the help you can find off the internet.

I could find you some good PC parts provided you tell me your budget.
November 13, 2013 7:18:52 AM

Thanks guys! I will look some more. What RAM and PSU would you recommend for a gaming rig like that with a suitable graphics card?
November 13, 2013 7:20:05 AM

As for building my current budget is around 600-700 tops and I would like to go with Intel and Nvidia. Many thanks in advance!! :) 
November 13, 2013 7:20:35 AM

P.S. By the way the currency is in British Pounds so a similar website in the UK would be appreciated!
a b 4 Gaming
November 13, 2013 7:20:47 AM

Please don't buy a pre-built system. When I see people fall into those traps , I really pity them.
November 13, 2013 7:22:04 AM

Also will the AMD FX-6300 handle next-gen games or is the FX-8350 better if I decide to go with AMD and Radeon? I'd prefer Intel/Nvidia but for a budget the other team is better it seems. And it also looks like the next-gen consoles are using AMD cores.
a b 4 Gaming
November 13, 2013 7:23:29 AM

That is a poorly designed machine, especially as a gaming rig.

1. The video card is much weaker than the processor, it *can* play all modern games, but if you're playing at 1920x1080p, you'll need to turn everything to practically minimum in demanding titles.

2. 1333mhz RAM in an 1155 chipset with a 3770k just implies they either don't know what they're doing, or more likely have an utterly cheap set of RAM in the machine. This chip should be paired with 1600mhz DDR3.

3. Based on the rest of the build, I'm scared to think what kind of POS PSU is in there.
a b 4 Gaming
November 13, 2013 7:24:51 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.98 @ Dabs)
Motherboard: ASRock B75 PRO3-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£47.14 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£62.99 @ Novatech)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.68 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (£231.35 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£38.64 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£57.33 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£12.22 @ Dabs)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£65.99 @ Aria PC)
Total: £700.32
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-13 15:25 GMT+0000)
a b 4 Gaming
November 13, 2013 7:28:27 AM

IRONBATMAN said:
Please don't buy a pre-built system. When I see people fall into those traps , I really pity them.


This. Pre-built systems are usually built with the worst components available.
November 13, 2013 7:28:59 AM

IRONBATMAN said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.98 @ Dabs)
Motherboard: ASRock B75 PRO3-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£47.14 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£62.99 @ Novatech)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.68 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (£231.35 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£38.64 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£57.33 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£12.22 @ Dabs)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£65.99 @ Aria PC)
Total: £700.32
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-13 15:25 GMT+0000)


This isn't much better than the other build except for the video card. The Mobo is Micro ATX and 1155. That is last generation of Intel processors. Don't forget the motheroboard isn't as good as he could get. The PSU watts are much too low for what he is doing and it only has 500gb.
November 13, 2013 7:29:15 AM

fx 6300 is good gaming CPU paired with some decent GPU.
November 13, 2013 7:32:42 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£171.59 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£79.04 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (£72.73 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£69.95 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.57 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card
Case: Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£48.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£96.90 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£13.15 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£65.99 @ Aria PC)
Total: £685.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-13 15:31 GMT+0000)


This is the best you can get for this price. SSD for the OS and a great video card with 2.1 ghz ram.

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a b 4 Gaming
November 13, 2013 7:32:58 AM
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Amit Parmar said:
IRONBATMAN said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.98 @ Dabs)
Motherboard: ASRock B75 PRO3-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£47.14 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£62.99 @ Novatech)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.68 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (£231.35 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£38.64 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£57.33 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£12.22 @ Dabs)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£65.99 @ Aria PC)
Total: £700.32
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-13 15:25 GMT+0000)


This isn't much better than the other build except for the video card. The Mobo is Micro ATX and 1155. That is last generation of Intel processors. Don't forget the motheroboard isn't as good as he could get. The PSU watts are much too low for what he is doing and it only has 500gb.


Right now I'm really smilling at you. Proove to me that the PSU is too weak. Proove to me that Haswell CPUs are much better than ivy-bridge. Give me the proof
November 13, 2013 7:41:12 AM

Excuse me but I think future tech will use 1150. 1155 is already dead with the new processors. 5th generation will be on 1150 not 1155. 520w can never fit overclocking. 1155 had 2nd and 3rd on it so it is obvious 5th and other future ram and video cards will be much better on 1150. Intel doesn't make things for no reason. And there is no reason to argue you can already switch to next gen.

Your move.
a b 4 Gaming
November 13, 2013 7:43:26 AM

You took too long...


"For a system using a single Radeon HD 7970 graphics card AMD specifies a minimum of a 500 Watt or greater power supply. The power supply should also have a combined +12 Volt continuous current rating of 38 Amps or greater and have at least one 6-pin and one 8-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors.

Total Power Supply Wattage is NOT the crucial factor in power supply selection!!! Total Continuous Amperage Available on the +12V Rail(s) is the most important factor."

source:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/334059-28-should-upgr...
credits to the PSU Master
http://www.tomshardware.com/community/profile-217811.ht...

Seasonic S12 II 520 watt specs


source:
http://www.seasonicusa.com/S12II-Bronze.htm

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Haswell vs Ivy-Bridge

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2421019,00.asp

Main difference: Power consumption

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a b 4 Gaming
November 13, 2013 7:44:29 AM

In my first recommendation , I did not state anything about Overclocking. I did not intend the OP to overclock.
a b 4 Gaming
November 13, 2013 7:45:14 AM

Ivy-bridge is cheaper . Simple .
November 13, 2013 7:47:24 AM

They are both the same price if you switch. The article is outdated and please write in one anwser. Don't make multiple as the emails are really annoying.

In my build the PSU 80+ GOLD. Much better than bronze and it has 750w. Always go above the minimum by at least 100w for future upgrading.
a b 4 Gaming
November 13, 2013 7:48:27 AM

-__- you can just turn off the notifications....
a b 4 Gaming
November 13, 2013 7:49:18 AM

Yes , the thread is old , but the hardware remains the same.
November 13, 2013 7:49:36 AM

IRONBATMAN said:
-__- you can just turn off the notifications....


Is that what we are discussing? No. Stay relevant to the OP's question.
a b 4 Gaming
November 13, 2013 7:51:43 AM

just realised that the build you recommended does not include the price of the GPU
November 13, 2013 8:00:14 AM

IRONBATMAN said:
just realised that the build you recommended does not include the price of the GPU


Oh dang maybe it isn't sold in the UK. You can switch it for a 7950, 660 or 7970.
a b 4 Gaming
November 13, 2013 8:00:26 AM

GTG I'll rejoin the debate in 16 hours
November 13, 2013 8:02:23 AM

IRONBATMAN said:
GTG I'll rejoin the debate in 16 hours


I'll be sleeping.
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