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is DirectX 11.1 worth the upgrade ?

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November 13, 2013 10:42:51 PM

so i have windows 7 and gtx 770 sli , first does my vga support 11.1 ?

and if yes , does it worth that i upgrade from windows 7 to 8.1 just for that ?
what is the difference between 11 and 11.1 in games like BF4 and Crysis 3 ?
( my cpu is core i7 950 @ 3.9 Ghz )

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November 13, 2013 10:45:06 PM

It's not a big difference... Unless if you have a 8 core processor, Windows 8 isn't worth the upgrade... Yet...
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November 13, 2013 10:51:25 PM

griptwister said:
It's not a big difference... Unless if you have a 8 core processor, Windows 8 isn't worth the upgrade... Yet...


i heard 11.1 will improve cpu performance , is this true ?
because i dont have a strong cpu compare to my vga and i was afraid that it can cause bottleneck , so upgrading to 11.1 will help improving my cpu and stop bottleneck?
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November 14, 2013 12:42:09 AM

No. There is almost no difference and it is not worth regressions in user interface.
If it does make any speed boost it will only be a few percent.

I am afraid that you would be much better off upgrading cpu + mobo.
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November 14, 2013 12:56:48 AM

For your CPU? No, you will not see any noticeable gains. For something like a FX 8350, believe it or not, actually raises the minimum frame rates. My personal suggestion is you buy a 1440P monitor to remove your so called "CPU bottleneck" x)

The whole bottleneck thing is over done. Your first Gen i7 will probably be good for another year and a half or so...
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November 14, 2013 1:14:57 AM

griptwister said:
For your CPU? No, you will not see any noticeable gains. For something like a FX 8350, believe it or not, actually raises the minimum frame rates. My personal suggestion is you buy a 1440P monitor to remove your so called "CPU bottleneck" x)

The whole bottleneck thing is over done. Your first Gen i7 will probably be good for another year and a half or so...


so are you saying getting 1440P monitor will reduce cpu bottleneck ?!

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November 14, 2013 2:26:35 AM

No, because your CPU will still be providing the same number of frames for your GPU to draw as before, it will just increase the graphics load to make better use of your graphics card while it is only given the ability to draw a limited number of frames.

Also, an i7 950 @ 3.5 is still a solid CPU, if you want to figure out if the CPU is the limiting factor for your game performance figure, get the FPS at your current settings, then lower the settings significantly and see what your FPS is, if it does not change much then you are CPU limited so you should just crank the graphics settings all the way up to make use of the remaining GPU potential. I doubt an i7 950@3.9 is significantly limiting you at this point in time.
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November 14, 2013 8:59:58 AM

omidelf said:
griptwister said:
For your CPU? No, you will not see any noticeable gains. For something like a FX 8350, believe it or not, actually raises the minimum frame rates. My personal suggestion is you buy a 1440P monitor to remove your so called "CPU bottleneck" x)

The whole bottleneck thing is over done. Your first Gen i7 will probably be good for another year and a half or so...


so are you saying getting 1440P monitor will reduce cpu bottleneck ?!



@hunter315 is correct. It would just make your "Bottleneck" less noticeable because you're stressing the GPUs.

What's crazy is I'm running a Phenom II x4 840 @ 3.3 Ghz and a HD 7870 GHz (FX 8350 on it's way). And my PC is actually running Crysis 3 Smoother at 1440P than at 1080P. I don't understand it. I'm also able to max out BF3 @ 1440P with a minimum frame rate of 30FPS!

I personally cannot go back to 1080P. I picked up my monitor for $300 and regret nothing. IMO, your rig is beastly enough to where you don't need an upgrade for anything right now. It simply would cost to much for the small performance gains you'd get.
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November 14, 2013 9:57:30 AM

griptwister said:
omidelf said:
griptwister said:
For your CPU? No, you will not see any noticeable gains. For something like a FX 8350, believe it or not, actually raises the minimum frame rates. My personal suggestion is you buy a 1440P monitor to remove your so called "CPU bottleneck" x)

The whole bottleneck thing is over done. Your first Gen i7 will probably be good for another year and a half or so...


so are you saying getting 1440P monitor will reduce cpu bottleneck ?!



@hunter315 is correct. It would just make your "Bottleneck" less noticeable because you're stressing the GPUs.

What's crazy is I'm running a Phenom II x4 840 @ 3.3 Ghz and a HD 7870 GHz (FX 8350 on it's way). And my PC is actually running Crysis 3 Smoother at 1440P than at 1080P. I don't understand it. I'm also able to max out BF3 @ 1440P with a minimum frame rate of 30FPS!

I personally cannot go back to 1080P. I picked up my monitor for $300 and regret nothing. IMO, your rig is beastly enough to where you don't need an upgrade for anything right now. It simply would cost to much for the small performance gains you'd get.


i have one more question , does it really worth going from 1080p to 1440p ? since you had 1080p before and you changed it to 1440p did you notice a big difference ?
because i cannot imagine playing with 1440p

does it worth spending 500$ or more just for that ?
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November 14, 2013 10:36:53 AM

Did I notice a big difference? HELL YES!!!

I did NOT expect this. I had always thought 1440P is over hyped. I was going to wait for those new monitors with G Sync or purchase that ASUS 1080P 144Hz monitor. But I remembered I was using a AMD system, so I figured it'd be pointless. And when I found out these Korean monitors are selling for $300-$350 range I still was skeptical... Then magically, I found out it's possible to overclock the refresh rate on most of these monitors. Particularly the QNIX QX2710. That sold me right there.

I not only noticed the graphics looked better, I noticed my sniper accuracy had gone up.

The only problems with these Korean monitors (or my QNIX in particular) is the stand isnt adjustable, so it sits at a tilt, and the chance you take when you make a order them. You could be the 1 out of 99 that got a monitor with a slight defect. Luckily, I have no Back light bleed that I can notice, and I have no dead or stuck pixels.

Here's the seller I bought my monitor from!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PERFECT-PIXELS-Matte-QNIX-QX271...

I have a hard time playing at 1080P now, it just doesn't feel as smooth. And you don't realize just how much detail goes into these games till you have this many pixels in a 27 inch screen. lol. I can't fathom 4K. QHD is good enough for me.
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November 14, 2013 12:00:12 PM

griptwister said:
Did I notice a big difference? HELL YES!!!

I did NOT expect this. I had always thought 1440P is over hyped. I was going to wait for those new monitors with G Sync or purchase that ASUS 1080P 144Hz monitor. But I remembered I was using a AMD system, so I figured it'd be pointless. And when I found out these Korean monitors are selling for $300-$350 range I still was skeptical... Then magically, I found out it's possible to overclock the refresh rate on most of these monitors. Particularly the QNIX QX2710. That sold me right there.

I not only noticed the graphics looked better, I noticed my sniper accuracy had gone up.

The only problems with these Korean monitors (or my QNIX in particular) is the stand isnt adjustable, so it sits at a tilt, and the chance you take when you make a order them. You could be the 1 out of 99 that got a monitor with a slight defect. Luckily, I have no Back light bleed that I can notice, and I have no dead or stuck pixels.

Here's the seller I bought my monitor from!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PERFECT-PIXELS-Matte-QNIX-QX271...

I have a hard time playing at 1080P now, it just doesn't feel as smooth. And you don't realize just how much detail goes into these games till you have this many pixels in a 27 inch screen. lol. I can't fathom 4K. QHD is good enough for me.


So are you saying between a 144hz monitor and a 1440p , i should go for 144hz or 1440p ?

and if i get a 144hz , i should play my game with more than 144 fps so i can really use the refresh rate ?
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November 14, 2013 12:12:08 PM

I'm saying you should go 1440P. These 1440P monitors Overclock! And No, you may not be able to get the 120FPS out of the refresh rate out of it. But it gets rid of screen tearing for the most part.

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