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November 14, 2013 2:02:35 PM

I'm low on cash.

I want a gaming PC that's cheap but is just as good as the next gen consoles.

I was thinking something like this, If that's not as good as the PS4 then I can go a bit higher in budget. I don't have a legitimate budget but I don't want to pay more then I have to, I got bills to pay.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($77.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Biostar A55MD2 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($174.99 @ TigerDirect)
Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($22.49 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $566.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-14 17:18 EST-0500)

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November 14, 2013 2:13:04 PM

looks about right it should preform a little better as the playstation 4 is basically just a slightly over clocked 7850.
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November 14, 2013 2:59:14 PM

I would avoid Biostar motherboards, usually not the highest quality.

ASRock, ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte will use better components.

Ycan look into an AM3+ motherboard and an AMD FX-6300, would get you 6 cores for about $40 more.
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November 14, 2013 4:07:05 PM

Eximo said:
I would avoid Biostar motherboards, usually not the highest quality.

ASRock, ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte will use better components.

Ycan look into an AM3+ motherboard and an AMD FX-6300, would get you 6 cores for about $40 more.

This; although it would cost more, the AMD FX-6300 would make a noticeable difference in performance compared to the Athlon X4!
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November 14, 2013 4:34:37 PM

I know this may sound weird but, I would prefer a 4 core over a 6 core.

If the x4 760k is not enough to match to next gen consoles then I would probably get a FX4350
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November 16, 2013 1:17:57 AM

I spent a long time doing research on the performance differences between consoles and PC...

Apparently you need twice the CPU+GPU on a PC to match a console....even this big shot named "John Carmack" said so.

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/9999/vum.png

I did some math to calculate what kind of CPU and GPU would it take to match.

GPU: The ps4 has a GPU that has 1.84 teraflops, x2 that and you get 3.68 teraflops. The 7970 has 3.79 teraflops at $280 so I think I'm going with that.

CPU: The PS4/xbox1 CPU is in between a A4-5000 and A6-5200, that would about make it a benchmark 2179.5 on cpubenchmark.net. The PS4/xbox1 are using 2 of the same CPU so lets multiply that benchmark by 2 which equals 4359. Now lets multiply that by 2 again because it takes x2 performance for a PC to match a console and you have 8718. I say any CPU above 8718 on cpubenchmark.net would be good enough to match the next gen consoles, so CPUs such as the fx8350 or E3-1230 V2.

I might get something like this when I can afford it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Biostar A960D+ Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Western Digital AV-GP 500GB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($42.94 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($22.49 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq 500W ATX Power Supply ($51.32 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $767.70
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-16 00:28 EST-0500)
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November 16, 2013 1:57:04 AM

I am no expert but I would completely ignore "you need 2x PC power to match a console". Unless someone can explain that to me it sounds like a load of nonsense.
The 7970 does not "match" the next gen consoles, it completely destroys it.
An fx-8350 will be a lot more powerful than whatever CPU they put in the console.

The next gen consoles are going to be low-mid end gaming pc equvalents to my knowledge

I could be completely wrong here and If i am then I would like to be given links to any good source material that explains why an fx 8350 and a 7970 dont wreck next gen consoles but only "match" it.
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November 16, 2013 2:35:21 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($57.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.97 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($191.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $568.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-16 05:35 EST-0500)
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November 16, 2013 2:57:23 AM

Marcopolo123 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($57.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.97 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($191.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $568.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-16 05:35 EST-0500)


I like this build. I would however reccomend swapping out the CPU for an FX-8120... And honestly I'd throw is $100 more for the R9 280x... It's worth it :) ... Powersupply maybe a CX500 series? Also you can get a 1TB Harddrive for only $10 more. So why not.
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November 16, 2013 3:03:23 AM

Krazeee said:
Marcopolo123 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($57.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.97 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($191.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $568.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-16 05:35 EST-0500)


I like this build. I would however reccomend swapping out the CPU for an FX-8120... And honestly I'd throw is $100 more for the R9 280x... It's worth it :) ... Powersupply maybe a CX500 series? Also you can get a 1TB Harddrive for only $10 more. So why not.


The 8120 is the old bulldozer architecture which , to my knowledge, wasnt all that fantastic for gaming in comparison to the piledriver which the 6300 uses.
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November 16, 2013 10:36:27 AM

Ronaldspiers said:
Krazeee said:
Marcopolo123 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($57.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.97 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($191.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $568.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-16 05:35 EST-0500)


I like this build. I would however reccomend swapping out the CPU for an FX-8120... And honestly I'd throw is $100 more for the R9 280x... It's worth it :) ... Powersupply maybe a CX500 series? Also you can get a 1TB Harddrive for only $10 more. So why not.


The 8120 is the old bulldozer architecture which , to my knowledge, wasnt all that fantastic for gaming in comparison to the piledriver which the 6300 uses.


It's not as good as Piledriver, But where I live the 8120 is $120 compred to the fx6300 which runs around $140... So it's up to the market to say the least. And the real world performance is the same... The only time you'll realize it is if you running Crossfire/SLI cards that get bottlenecked more heavily on bulldozer. For a cheap build, doesn't matter imo.

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November 16, 2013 1:19:28 PM

Ronaldspiers said:
I am no expert but I would completely ignore "you need 2x PC power to match a console". Unless someone can explain that to me it sounds like a load of nonsense.
The 7970 does not "match" the next gen consoles, it completely destroys it.
An fx-8350 will be a lot more powerful than whatever CPU they put in the console.

The next gen consoles are going to be low-mid end gaming pc equvalents to my knowledge

I could be completely wrong here and If i am then I would like to be given links to any good source material that explains why an fx 8350 and a 7970 dont wreck next gen consoles but only "match" it.


Are you sure?

Because I watched Killzone shadow fall on YouTube and the graphics look AMAZING, it looks like Crysis 2 on max settings + it runs in 60fps!

It seems realistic that a 8350+7970 would be necessary to match that performance....it seems extremely unlikely that a x4 760k+7870 would do that...but I'll try to do more research on the matter.
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December 22, 2013 2:08:37 PM

I got a good cheap alternative
AMD A10 6800k $139.99
Gigabyte GA-M61P-S3 MotherBoard $81.99
Cardboard Box $0.00
480 Watt Logisys PS480D Power supply $12.99
Toshiba 640 GB Internal hard drive $58.00
G.Skill Ripjaws 8 GB 2x4 $40.00
Samsung SE-208DB Disk Drive $26.95
Windows XP $39.00

=$398.92 PSp00R XPeDiti1tionZ
(optionl extras/configs)

If you actually want to use this. PSp00R N0DragonFLame
Reclace cardboard box with IN Win BL641 300w Slim Desktop Black ATX 80 Plus +$50.00
Total = $448.92

Performance Boost and better OS. PS-sT34M
EVGA GeForce GT 640 $89.99
-WinXP
+Steam OSbeta (free)
(Only nVDIA cards support SteamOsbeta at the moment.)
Total =$449.91

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December 22, 2013 2:49:51 PM

Akaza said:
I got a good cheap alternative
AMD A10 6800k $139.99
Gigabyte GA-M61P-S3 MotherBoard $81.99
Cardboard Box $0.00
480 Watt Logisys PS480D Power supply $12.99
Toshiba 640 GB Internal hard drive $58.00
G.Skill Ripjaws 8 GB 2x4 $40.00
Samsung SE-208DB Disk Drive $26.95
Windows XP $39.00

=$398.92 PSp00R XPeDiti1tionZ
(optionl extras/configs)

If you actually want to use this. PSp00R N0DragonFLame
Reclace cardboard box with IN Win BL641 300w Slim Desktop Black ATX 80 Plus +$50.00
Total = $448.92

Performance Boost and better OS. PS-sT34M
EVGA GeForce GT 640 $89.99
-WinXP
+Steam OSbeta (free)
(Only nVDIA cards support SteamOsbeta at the moment.)
Total =$449.91



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