1st build, 2 to $3K Gen'l Office & Photo Editing build review request

grinder13

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1st build, 2 to 3K Gen'l Office and Photo Editing build review request.

Approximate Purchase Date:~11/21/2013

Budget Range:2-->3k

System Usage from Most to Least Important: General office via VPN, Archival film negative scanning and photo editing, web/e-mail

Parts Not Required: n/a, reserving entire old XP P4 machine for work VPN telecommute backup until XP is terminal

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: OK with multi sites (do have concerns about hints of ESD damaged returned items at some vendors).

Country: U.S.

Parts Preferences:INTC CPU, NVDA GPU

Overclocking: maybe, just want to try

SLI or Crossfire: if/when required

Monitor Resolution: prefer extra lower screen space of 4:3 ratio over wide-widescreen

Additional Comments: 1st build, based on gaming build best configs as a reference.
Expect photo editing of scanned negative to be most intense task; may run 2nd monitor in future for work presence/teleconferencing.
Power supply intentionally oversized/platinum for quiet PC, with margin for 2x upgraded graphics card.
Only initially dabbling in overclocking for the experience, hence air cooling for now.

PC Part Picker BOM:
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($93.22 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($114.00 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital VelociRaptor 150GB 3.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($153.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($163.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Full (32/64-bit) ($169.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: Dell U2711 60Hz 27.0" Monitor ($666.42 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm QuickFire XT Wired Slim Keyboard ($94.98 @ NCIX US)
Mouse: Gigabyte GM-M8000X Wired Laser Mouse ($59.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $2106.46
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-15 01:22 EST-0500)

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/22zEo
 
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It looks to be a very solid build, on the verge of overkill, I like it... EXCEPT the inclusion of the Velociraptor HDD - put another SSD in there instead, IMO the 30GB additional of the (much) slower HDD isn't worth the $5 savings

grinder13

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Thank you C12 Friedman. My thought on the HD was to have separate drives for the OS on the SSD, and data files on a dedicated HD. With possibly an external drive for backup and physical separation (security) from the PC. Thought I would add a larger SSD, later as prices drop and need arises. Are MTBF of SSD vs HD (or some such equivalent parameter) justification to just go with SSD now? Appreciate the sentiment of "on the verge of overkill, I like it." Appreciate your help.
 

grinder13

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Marcopolo123, do you mean the recently reviewed monitor Asus ProArt PQ279Q? Thank you for the suggestion; this does look good.
 

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-YAMAKASI-CATLEAP-2703-LED-27-2560X1440-WQHD-IPS-DVI-Monitor-Tempered-glassl/110920266460?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D163%26meid%3D2738753442312550563%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D1088%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121156200631%26
http://www.ebay.com/itm/QNIX-Tempered-Glass-QX2710-LED-Evolution-ll-Perfect-Pixel-27-PLS-DVI-PC-Monitor-/111152566244?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item19e1358fe4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CROSSOVER-New-27QW-IPS-LED-27-LG-AH-IPS-Panel-2560X1440-QHD-DVI-PC-MONITOR-/111152577746?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item19e135bcd2



PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($225.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($77.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($91.79 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($132.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($74.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Mouse: Logitech G500 Wired Laser Mouse ($59.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1360.66
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-16 04:28 EST-0500)




PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($244.48 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H87-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($91.79 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($73.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($74.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Mouse: Logitech G500 Wired Laser Mouse ($59.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1232.16
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-16 04:33 EST-0500)
 


The MTBF for SSD's is dependent upon the controller type more than anything and, in the case of SSD's the MTBF is a "guaranteed" minimum number, it can be greater but will be at least that. For SSD's you can read MTBF as "Minimum Time Before Failure" rather than "Mean Time Between Failure" (an estimated average)
I figure you chose the Velociraptor for it's speed but the size there is small (by any current standards), the 500GB Velociraptor seems to me to be a better value for only a little more. That 150GB Velociraptor just doesn't fit this build IMO especially considering an equivalent SSD isn't much more expensive
 

grinder13

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Another rev
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/25Tis
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/25Tis/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/25Tis/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($225.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($62.51 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($114.00 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($165.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($121.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Full (32/64-bit) ($169.99 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm QuickFire XT Wired Slim Keyboard ($94.98 @ NCIX US)
Mouse: Gigabyte GM-M8000X Wired Laser Mouse ($59.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1487.04
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-21 01:58 EST-0500)

Comments/questions.
Cooler: Kept small cooler -- concerned about huge NHD14 cantilevered off PCB
MoBo: Not planning on RAID. Using Tom's review of <$160 Z87 cards as baseline. Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 would be an alternative, and it provides 5 4-pin fan controllers which might be nice for 2 MSI PWM fans (if not ganged together). Not sure if any feature makes either the ASRock or Gigabyte Mobo more compelling.
Memory: Changed to Muskin 16 GB
Storage2: 2 TB HD as recommended, egghead combo adds the Optical drive I was missing. Have had good luck with WD drives, hope Seagate is comparable now.
Video: I liked the concept of GTX 650 squirrel cage fan exhausting directly out case -- less thermal load for CPU cooler and case exhaust fan. Thinking I will eventually go with large monitor PA279Q or equivalent at 2560x1440 after holiday pricing drop. Not sure whether Gforce 650 spec "Resolution Max Digital : 2560x1600 (Dual Link DVI Only)" is a limitation for use of PA279Q, or whether MSI 7850 spec of "2560x1600" with no other detail listed is better. For now plan to use one of my old monitors.
PS: 660W still provides headroom and has nice price break
Optical: added, forgot on 1st pass.
OS: considered Win8.1 oem with transferable license, but looking into learning new OS vs. staying with Win 7 as used at work, plus having to download video drivers etc. pushes me to say with old school. (Also, managing other household PCs, with users even less tolerant of quirky MSFT software changes.)
Monitor: holding off for now. Have Calibration sheets for my film scanner, but factory calibration would a nice touch.
Keyboard: Engineer, must have numeric pad.
Mouse: may review more, didn't see big advantage either way unless quality of Gbyte mouse is poor vs. Logitech.

Thank you for your help