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November 15, 2013 12:32:03 PM

Hi! I'm new on this page, but I consult the forums for any info that I need. I'm going to buy some hardware from the U.S. This is what I have in mind:

-Core i5 3470 Ivy Bridge 3.2 Ghz
-ASUS P8B75-M
-Corsair CX600 Bronze Certified
-G.Skill Ripjaws X 8GB (2x4GB) 1600Mhz
-ASUS R9 270X Direct CU II TOP
-Western Digital Blue 1TB 7200RPM
-Cooler Master HAF 912 Blue edition
-LiteOn iHAS 124 DVD Reader

Total: 710 Dollars approximately (newegg.com)

Now, I live in Mexico and here the prices are high as... So, I'm going to ask my uncle to get me some pieces on the Black Friday, but I want something good without spend a lot of money. I want to play games like Battlefield 4 (I heard that all the R9 comes with a free copy of BF4) but I don't play in 1080p, I play in 720p, usually 1360x760 (I play in a LED screen).

¿Can I get a cheaper processor? I was thinking in AMD or a Core i3.
¿The R9 270x is fine or the R9 280x is worth the extra $100?

My plan is: Buy the pieces and forget about hardware updates in like 6 years :D  I know that there's no future-proof system, but I think that playing in 720p will give me some extra years running games in High and with good FPS. Please I need your help, I want to know if I can get a better system with less money, the taxes in Mexico for bring stuff from other countries are not that cheap.

Thanks! :pt1cable: 

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November 15, 2013 12:51:40 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($200.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $690.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-15 15:46 EST-0500)

Here is something on the AMD side to consider.
If you wanted to save even mor emoney you could drop to an fx6300.

For the resoluyion you are playign at the R9 270x should be perfect, i imagine high details on most games.

Now in regards to the 8320 vs the i5 you picked. The 8320 performs much the same and can be overclocked. But it consumes a lot more power than the intel CPU. So if electricity costs a lot where you live the i5 will be cheaper in the long run than the AMD.

http://www.techspot.com/review/586-amd-fx-8350-fx-6300/...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-performance-com....
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November 15, 2013 12:55:15 PM

Ronaldspiers said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($200.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $690.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-15 15:46 EST-0500)

Here is something on the AMD side to consider.
If you wanted to save even mor emoney you could drop to an fx6300.

For the resoluyion you are playign at the R9 270x should be perfect, i imagine high details on most games.

Now in regards to the 8320 vs the i5 you picked. The 8320 performs much the same and can be overclocked. But it consumes a lot more power than the intel CPU. So if electricity costs a lot where you live the i5 will be cheaper in the long run than the AMD.

http://www.techspot.com/review/586-amd-fx-8350-fx-6300/...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-performance-com....


this is a great build and can even go as low a 500w power if you want to trim it down a little but a great build as is
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November 15, 2013 1:00:35 PM

Ronaldspiers said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($200.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $690.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-15 15:46 EST-0500)

Here is something on the AMD side to consider.
If you wanted to save even mor emoney you could drop to an fx6300.

For the resoluyion you are playign at the R9 270x should be perfect, i imagine high details on most games.

Now in regards to the 8320 vs the i5 you picked. The 8320 performs much the same and can be overclocked. But it consumes a lot more power than the intel CPU. So if electricity costs a lot where you live the i5 will be cheaper in the long run than the AMD.

http://www.techspot.com/review/586-amd-fx-8350-fx-6300/...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-performance-com....


¿The 8320 is worth the extra money or i will be fine with the 6300? Everybody says that Core i5 are better, but I think that GPU is more important. What if I put an ASUS 7950 to overclock it? That motherboard alows me to overclock the 6300? Thanks
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November 15, 2013 1:04:45 PM

6300 OC'ed is decent but the 8320 can be great after OC and can OC the 7950 as well. the i5 is great for cpu heavy games and can be OC'ed so it depends on the game and weather its single thread or multi-thread. the amd is better multi the i5 is better single. if you can use this info to see what fits your needs and all work....go with lowest price.
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November 15, 2013 1:06:52 PM

The i5 CPUs deliver more performance per core than AMD usually. AMD CPUs are not BAD, and they are good for people on a tight budget. The fx 6300 will be fine for you if you wish to save some money, and yeah about 85% of gaming performance comes from the GPU. at 720p with a 7950 you should max pretty much everything with 60 FPS easily.

That motherboard will indeed allow you to overclock that CPU
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November 15, 2013 1:10:51 PM

Ronaldspiers said:
The i5 CPUs deliver more performance per core than AMD usually. AMD CPUs are not BAD, and they are good for people on a tight budget. The fx 6300 will be fine for you if you wish to save some money, and yeah about 85% of gaming performance comes from the GPU. at 720p with a 7950 you should max pretty much everything with 60 FPS easily.

That motherboard will indeed allow you to overclock that CPU

So, playing in 720p there's no difference between an overclocked FX-6300 and a Core i5?
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November 15, 2013 1:16:29 PM

JesusLovesUranus said:
Ronaldspiers said:
The i5 CPUs deliver more performance per core than AMD usually. AMD CPUs are not BAD, and they are good for people on a tight budget. The fx 6300 will be fine for you if you wish to save some money, and yeah about 85% of gaming performance comes from the GPU. at 720p with a 7950 you should max pretty much everything with 60 FPS easily.

That motherboard will indeed allow you to overclock that CPU

So, playing in 720p there's no difference between an overclocked FX-6300 and a Core i5?


Don't save money on your CPU, performance wise CPU and GPU go hand in hand. one can bottleneck the other.
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November 15, 2013 1:18:34 PM

depends on the game you are playing but if there is more than a $30 difference then its not worth it to get the i5. but thats just mu opinion. (at 720p the 6300 OC'ed is more than enough. and a 7770 or 7870 would even work well)
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November 15, 2013 1:20:02 PM

linsyschopman said:
JesusLovesUranus said:
Ronaldspiers said:
The i5 CPUs deliver more performance per core than AMD usually. AMD CPUs are not BAD, and they are good for people on a tight budget. The fx 6300 will be fine for you if you wish to save some money, and yeah about 85% of gaming performance comes from the GPU. at 720p with a 7950 you should max pretty much everything with 60 FPS easily.

That motherboard will indeed allow you to overclock that CPU

So, playing in 720p there's no difference between an overclocked FX-6300 and a Core i5?


Don't save money on your CPU, performance wise CPU and GPU go hand in hand. one can bottleneck the other.


So I should go with the i5? I want to save because is very expensive! And I thought that the CPU don´t make such a huge work in games and that GPU makes 85% of the work...
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November 15, 2013 1:21:43 PM

Hi, I'm new here too and want to help. You are in the same position I was last year so I would like to tell you my experience. I know that a 6400 is still more than enough to run anything. I have mine at stock speed (and stock cooling btw) and there's nothing I can't run on it at decent (40+fps) speeds. My vid card is a GTX 660 Superclocked and I have 8GB of 1866 DDR3 RAM. These were bought last December and I can't find a good reason to upgrade yet. Now, the thing is that buying *right now* a system like this is not a good long term investment. Think about it, I already have A YEAR with this system, and even then, it wasn't top end. I'd definitely try to spend a bit more and buy the 8 core. Also, an SSD could give you a HUGE advantage. Part of the reason I can still run anything is that I have my games on a SSD drive. Think about if you REALLY need a 1TB disk, or you could buy something smaller and add a 120GB SSD.
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November 15, 2013 1:22:11 PM

NormH said:
depends on the game you are playing but if there is more than a $30 difference then its not worth it to get the i5. but thats just mu opinion. (at 720p the 6300 OC'ed is more than enough. and a 7770 or 7870 would even work well)


Oh thank you! I think I will go with the 6300, I'm going to overclock it. What do you think about the R9 270x. Is enough? (I want it because the free Battlefield 4) And I would pick the ASUS TOP version, so I can overclock it a lot :pt1cable: 
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November 15, 2013 1:23:19 PM

JesusLovesUranus said:
linsyschopman said:
JesusLovesUranus said:
Ronaldspiers said:
The i5 CPUs deliver more performance per core than AMD usually. AMD CPUs are not BAD, and they are good for people on a tight budget. The fx 6300 will be fine for you if you wish to save some money, and yeah about 85% of gaming performance comes from the GPU. at 720p with a 7950 you should max pretty much everything with 60 FPS easily.

That motherboard will indeed allow you to overclock that CPU

So, playing in 720p there's no difference between an overclocked FX-6300 and a Core i5?


Don't save money on your CPU, performance wise CPU and GPU go hand in hand. one can bottleneck the other.


So I should go with the i5? I want to save because is very expensive! And I thought that the CPU don´t make such a huge work in games and that GPU makes 85% of the work...


that's not a 100% true, they're both very important.
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November 15, 2013 1:26:00 PM

JesusLovesUranus said:
NormH said:
depends on the game you are playing but if there is more than a $30 difference then its not worth it to get the i5. but thats just mu opinion. (at 720p the 6300 OC'ed is more than enough. and a 7770 or 7870 would even work well)


Oh thank you! I think I will go with the 6300, I'm going to overclock it. What do you think about the R9 270x. Is enough? (I want it because the free Battlefield 4) And I would pick the ASUS TOP version, so I can overclock it a lot :pt1cable: 


this should work fine with the cpu OC'ed as long as your case has good airflow and fans to cool the cpu and gpu
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November 15, 2013 1:27:00 PM

linsyschopman said:
JesusLovesUranus said:
linsyschopman said:
JesusLovesUranus said:
Ronaldspiers said:
The i5 CPUs deliver more performance per core than AMD usually. AMD CPUs are not BAD, and they are good for people on a tight budget. The fx 6300 will be fine for you if you wish to save some money, and yeah about 85% of gaming performance comes from the GPU. at 720p with a 7950 you should max pretty much everything with 60 FPS easily.

That motherboard will indeed allow you to overclock that CPU

So, playing in 720p there's no difference between an overclocked FX-6300 and a Core i5?


Don't save money on your CPU, performance wise CPU and GPU go hand in hand. one can bottleneck the other.


So I should go with the i5? I want to save because is very expensive! And I thought that the CPU don´t make such a huge work in games and that GPU makes 85% of the work...


that's not a 100% true, they're both very important.


The i5 3470 and the FX 6300 have a HUGE difference? I saw some benchmarks, and I don´t see a lot of difference...
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-6300+Six...
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-3...
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November 15, 2013 1:28:07 PM

NormH said:
JesusLovesUranus said:
NormH said:
depends on the game you are playing but if there is more than a $30 difference then its not worth it to get the i5. but thats just mu opinion. (at 720p the 6300 OC'ed is more than enough. and a 7770 or 7870 would even work well)


Oh thank you! I think I will go with the 6300, I'm going to overclock it. What do you think about the R9 270x. Is enough? (I want it because the free Battlefield 4) And I would pick the ASUS TOP version, so I can overclock it a lot :pt1cable: 


this should work fine with the cpu OC'ed as long as your case has good airflow and fans to cool the cpu and gpu


I'm going to buy Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO for the FX 6300. Is good enough?
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November 15, 2013 1:30:13 PM

Gsantos said:
Hi, I'm new here too and want to help. You are in the same position I was last year so I would like to tell you my experience. I know that a 6400 is still more than enough to run anything. I have mine at stock speed (and stock cooling btw) and there's nothing I can't run on it at decent (40+fps) speeds. My vid card is a GTX 660 Superclocked and I have 8GB of 1866 DDR3 RAM. These were bought last December and I can't find a good reason to upgrade yet. Now, the thing is that buying *right now* a system like this is not a good long term investment. Think about it, I already have A YEAR with this system, and even then, it wasn't top end. I'd definitely try to spend a bit more and buy the 8 core. Also, an SSD could give you a HUGE advantage. Part of the reason I can still run anything is that I have my games on a SSD drive. Think about if you REALLY need a 1TB disk, or you could buy something smaller and add a 120GB SSD.


Maybe I misinterpreted what you were saying but having games on an SSD (to my knowledge) wont impact the performance of the game at all except for faster load times.

@OP yeah the Hyper 212 Evo is a CPU cooler recommended by many people on this forum
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November 15, 2013 1:33:52 PM

Gsantos said:
Hi, I'm new here too and want to help. You are in the same position I was last year so I would like to tell you my experience. I know that a 6400 is still more than enough to run anything. I have mine at stock speed (and stock cooling btw) and there's nothing I can't run on it at decent (40+fps) speeds. My vid card is a GTX 660 Superclocked and I have 8GB of 1866 DDR3 RAM. These were bought last December and I can't find a good reason to upgrade yet. Now, the thing is that buying *right now* a system like this is not a good long term investment. Think about it, I already have A YEAR with this system, and even then, it wasn't top end. I'd definitely try to spend a bit more and buy the 8 core. Also, an SSD could give you a HUGE advantage. Part of the reason I can still run anything is that I have my games on a SSD drive. Think about if you REALLY need a 1TB disk, or you could buy something smaller and add a 120GB SSD.


Thank you for the help. The 8350 cost more than a Core i5 3470. So it would be the same. Anyways, I wil try to convince my parents to give me more money and buy an i5, because from what everybody says, AMD FX use more power and don't have good performance :sarcastic: 
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November 15, 2013 1:37:11 PM

the fx have good performance but they do have a high power draw. that being said you have a 600w power supply which is more than enough. in you shoes i would get the 8320 and OC it to match the 8350 and call it a day.
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November 15, 2013 1:40:46 PM

Ronaldspiers said:
Gsantos said:
Hi, I'm new here too and want to help. You are in the same position I was last year so I would like to tell you my experience. I know that a 6400 is still more than enough to run anything. I have mine at stock speed (and stock cooling btw) and there's nothing I can't run on it at decent (40+fps) speeds. My vid card is a GTX 660 Superclocked and I have 8GB of 1866 DDR3 RAM. These were bought last December and I can't find a good reason to upgrade yet. Now, the thing is that buying *right now* a system like this is not a good long term investment. Think about it, I already have A YEAR with this system, and even then, it wasn't top end. I'd definitely try to spend a bit more and buy the 8 core. Also, an SSD could give you a HUGE advantage. Part of the reason I can still run anything is that I have my games on a SSD drive. Think about if you REALLY need a 1TB disk, or you could buy something smaller and add a 120GB SSD.


Maybe I misinterpreted what you were saying but having games on an SSD (to my knowledge) wont impact the performance of the game at all except for faster load times.

@OP yeah the Hyper 212 Evo is a CPU cooler recommended by many people on this forum


No, you didn't. I was thinking one thing and writing something else, sorry.

What I meant is that part of the reason that I still have a decent system (speaking about the long term investment) is the SSD drive. Gaming rigs often don't need huge storage, only enough for documents and programs. That money could be invested on something else.
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November 15, 2013 1:40:49 PM

NormH said:
the fx have good performance but they do have a high power draw. that being said you have a 600w power supply which is more than enough. in you shoes i would get the 8320 and OC it to match the 8350 and call it a day.


I like that idea, I checked your links and the Core i5 3470 is 3% better in games, and for me, that's nothing. I think that i'm going to spend $40 more for the 832, overclock it to match the 8350 and enjoy it. I hope that this setup dont take a lot of power, the last thing I need is a nuclear reactor to feed my PC :D 
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November 15, 2013 1:44:18 PM

no sinlge card set up uses over 500w so the 600w you have is great
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November 15, 2013 1:45:50 PM

NormH said:
no sinlge card set up uses over 500w so the 600w you have is great


Thanks! And the 270x dont need a lot of power. Thank you for the advice, you helped me to save like 100 dollars :D 
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November 15, 2013 1:46:38 PM

sweet. mark solved...tag best answer...get your game on :) 
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November 15, 2013 2:31:43 PM

Aw, I was going to say if you wanted the 280X you should go for it since it is the best $300 dollar card out there.
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November 15, 2013 2:33:03 PM

sora said:
Aw, I was going to say if you wanted the 280X you should go for it since it is the best $300 dollar card out there.

I don't want to spend more than 700 since I have to pay taxes. So I think that I have to stick with the 280x if I dont want to spend a lot of money. I'm looking for a cheap Core i5, but I can´t find anything :D 
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