Newbie question on Win8 RAM usage..

pragmobiler

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Hi all... I read somewhere that Windows 8.x doesn't really close desktop apps but sends them to the background (unlike previous Windows versions) and not all apps give an "X" or close and a clean remove from RAM option...

which stops me in my tracks a little - on my older Windows laptop I have installed about 100 different apps that I use from time to time, probably most of them are pre-Windows 8 and many not available on the MS Store. (All sorts of things from database programs to open source audio editors such as Audacity, PDF merge utilities, etc). I don't have any app that's particularly heavy, i.e. Bay trail could probably run them all, if it has to deal with just one of them at a time (concurrently). i.e. I don't expect a current Windows 7 i5 ultrabook to be able to run all those apps in the background at the same time, either.

I, perhaps naively, want the tablet to be an ultrabook replacement, and expect, since its an x86 OS, to be able to install and run all of these apps straight off the bat (of course not concurrently), whether they are on the MS store or no, and with no background residue nonsense - I want them to load only when I run them and when I quit them they should clear the RAM. Otherwise I would need not 2GB these tablets have but 8or 16 even, whereas my current older Windows manages great on 2GB RAM.

So my questions are:
1) Is Windows 8 radically different in the way it uses RAM (i.e. it makes apps stay in the background) so that 2GB RAM on a bay trail laptop isn't really comparable to 2GB on Windows 7 PC, in terms of the user experience after having many apps installed in the OS?

2) Is there a general setting to tell Windows 8 to not load any app in the background unless I specifically start it, and then completely remove it from memory when I quit it?

3) Is it possible to install pre-Windows 8 apps and have them run the old way, i.e. to be called into RAM only when started?

4) Is it possible and realistic to work with the tablet if I don't want to use MS store / Win8 sanctioned apps at all? how easy it is to install apps not in the MS store and what are the disadvantages of that... (assuming I don't really care about any win8 specific features, I just want the app to run the way Win7 runs it).

I'm getting a tablet primarily for battery life and weight, not due to the GUI advances.. as far as I'm concerned I'd be happy if it ran Windows 7.

Should I forget about getting a Windows 8 tablet at all in this scenario and stick to a new Ultrabook instead? i.e., am I misreading the aim of tablets and they are really only intended for MS office type work with sanctioned apps from the MS store?

I appreciate any guidance... thanks
 
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1.) no. You heard incorrectly.

Windows 8 has two separate application domains, traditional applications which operate on the desktop, and Win8-UI applications which operate on the Win8-UI.

From the perspective of the operating system they're all just running processes. However, traditional applications will typically show up either in the task bar or system tray (depending on how the designer has designed it) which allows the user to determine if they're running. Win8 applications show up in the charm bar (upper-left hand corner) and can be closed by pressing Alt-F4. Most users run Windows 8 in the traditional sense across the board and never run Win8 apps. Many applications such as Skype have both traditional applications which will...
1.) no. You heard incorrectly.

Windows 8 has two separate application domains, traditional applications which operate on the desktop, and Win8-UI applications which operate on the Win8-UI.

From the perspective of the operating system they're all just running processes. However, traditional applications will typically show up either in the task bar or system tray (depending on how the designer has designed it) which allows the user to determine if they're running. Win8 applications show up in the charm bar (upper-left hand corner) and can be closed by pressing Alt-F4. Most users run Windows 8 in the traditional sense across the board and never run Win8 apps. Many applications such as Skype have both traditional applications which will run on Windows XP, Vista, 7, and 8, as well as a new Win8 application which is designed around the Win8-UI.

2) Loading and running applications hasn't changed. Applications that are run at startup will still run at startup. You can disable these in MSconfig just like in previous versions of Windows

3) Just install traditional applications where possible

4) yup
 
Solution
And FYI - to distinguish between the two types, traditional desktop programs are generally referred to as "applications", whereas the new Win8UI programs are referred to as simply "apps" - like those you would find on a tablet device like an iPad or Galaxy Tab.
 

pragmobiler

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ok got it...