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What do i have to buy to fix the damn "Screen Tearing"

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November 16, 2013 12:10:10 PM

This problem is driving me crazy,ive bought a new GPU,so i can see the NATURE of the NEWEST GAMES,but new problem showed that damn "screen tearing"... what to buy to fix it? enablin vsync causes lots of input lag. Do i need a new Monitor? 120Hz (mine is AOC 2050W 1600x900 20inch 60Hz),or i need a new GPU? different cable then VGA? (for example DVI to HDMI?) what? thanks

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November 16, 2013 12:17:03 PM

Have you tried using msi afterburner?
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November 16, 2013 12:23:01 PM

Are you enabling vsync in the game settings? if so, try enabling it in the video card software instead, that can often help with input lag issues. Doing a quick Google search for specific games and the screen tearing/input lag issues can find you many great solutions for solving this problem as well. A monitor with a higher refresh rate would also solve tearing issues depending on how many fps you are getting, but it is also a very expensive solution. At 1600x900 you are probably getting fps that is quite high since it is a lower resolution, a 1080p monitor at 60Hz would probably help quite a bit as well depending on the card you bought, since the res is higher you'd be getting lower fps. I'd recommend trying conventional solutions first since there are an array of setting to mess with before going out and spending more money
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November 16, 2013 12:38:50 PM

IAmSparta said:
Have you tried using msi afterburner?


What can MSI Afterburner do to solve my problem? ain't that just for components tempeture? or im unaware of it.
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November 16, 2013 12:42:29 PM

bdiddytampa said:
Are you enabling vsync in the game settings? if so, try enabling it in the video card software instead, that can often help with input lag issues. Doing a quick Google search for specific games and the screen tearing/input lag issues can find you many great solutions for solving this problem as well. A monitor with a higher refresh rate would also solve tearing issues depending on how many fps you are getting, but it is also a very expensive solution. At 1600x900 you are probably getting fps that is quite high since it is a lower resolution, a 1080p monitor at 60Hz would probably help quite a bit as well depending on the card you bought, since the res is higher you'd be getting lower fps. I'd recommend trying conventional solutions first since there are an array of setting to mess with before going out and spending more money


Well i have tried enabling vsync from CCC and Radeonpro,but same result... how aboult getting different cable? im currently using DVI-I to VGA,but what if i get DVI-D to DVI-I,or DVI-D to HDMI?

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November 16, 2013 12:48:53 PM

That isn't gonna help screen tearing. Screen tearing happens because the frames coming in are too fast for the the monitor to sync to. If the screen is at 60hz it can only display 60fps, but if the frames are coming in higher than that, you end up only getting part of the frame displayed before the next one comes in, resulting in mixed up frames on your screen. You must set you card to run at the same speed as your monitor to fix it, the cables won't make a difference.

When you are setting the vsync in ccc and radeonpro are you making sure only to set vsync in one program at a time? If you set it in ccc don't set it in your application or radeonpro, if you set in radeonpro don't set in ccc or your application, etc.

Also, what card are you using? and what specific games are you having problems with?
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November 16, 2013 1:17:22 PM

bdiddytampa said:
That isn't gonna help screen tearing. Screen tearing happens because the frames coming in are too fast for the the monitor to sync to. If the screen is at 60hz it can only display 60fps, but if the frames are coming in higher than that, you end up only getting part of the frame displayed before the next one comes in, resulting in mixed up frames on your screen. You must set you card to run at the same speed as your monitor to fix it, the cables won't make a difference.

When you are setting the vsync in ccc and radeonpro are you making sure only to set vsync in one program at a time? If you set it in ccc don't set it in your application or radeonpro, if you set in radeonpro don't set in ccc or your application, etc.

Also, what card are you using? and what specific games are you having problems with?


Well almost all games... in some its less noticeable,but in others is just terrible like Far Cry 3,Outlast.AC4..... using MSI AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256bit GDDR5
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November 16, 2013 3:00:23 PM

I guess I'm just surprised at the amount of lag you are getting... Vsync should solve the screen tearing, but the input lag usually isn't really that bad. I have a GTX770, so my frame rate is usually way over 60, I run vsync in pretty much every game I play and the only one that the lag was so bad I could barely play was Dead Space :-/ other than that I have had no troubles whatsoever with lag, and if I do, setting up a profile for that specific game in the GPU control panel usually works beautifully. Do you get lag with vsync in every game?
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November 17, 2013 12:41:41 AM

bdiddytampa said:
I guess I'm just surprised at the amount of lag you are getting... Vsync should solve the screen tearing, but the input lag usually isn't really that bad. I have a GTX770, so my frame rate is usually way over 60, I run vsync in pretty much every game I play and the only one that the lag was so bad I could barely play was Dead Space :-/ other than that I have had no troubles whatsoever with lag, and if I do, setting up a profile for that specific game in the GPU control panel usually works beautifully. Do you get lag with vsync in every game?


well in far cry 3 i get lots of lag,on outlast dont have any lag,but the screen tearing is still there(no change),on ac4 i dont get mouse lag,but game lag...
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November 17, 2013 1:26:02 AM

Have you considered yet that the card might be defective? Screen-tearing usually indicates a defective rendering matrix. Take the card back to where you got it to be tested. This is not a common problem for any card, Radeon, GeForce or otherwise so I'm certain that your card is just screwy on a hardware level.
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November 17, 2013 3:15:20 AM

Avro Arrow said:
Have you considered yet that the card might be defective? Screen-tearing usually indicates a defective rendering matrix. Take the card back to where you got it to be tested. This is not a common problem for any card, Radeon, GeForce or otherwise so I'm certain that your card is just screwy on a hardware level.


I have tested the Video Card on a TV monitor 28inch with a HDMI cable,and there wasn't any screen tearing...

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November 17, 2013 4:37:05 AM

I guess there is no good way to fix the screen tearing :(  but how aboult those annyoing line waves acrossing the monitor while gaming? i have just tested an HDMI cable with a 19" TV 1280x750 60Hz ,and the wasnt a single line.. only screen tearing,so i guess i should get an HDMI to DVI-D cable.. at least will fix those lines.
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November 17, 2013 8:11:47 AM

Ludogorets said:
I guess there is no good way to fix the screen tearing :(  but how aboult those annyoing line waves acrossing the monitor while gaming? i have just tested an HDMI cable with a 19" TV 1280x750 60Hz ,and the wasnt a single line.. only screen tearing,so i guess i should get an HDMI to DVI-D cable.. at least will fix those lines.


Maybe there is something wrong with the adapter you are using to convert to VGA? That could be a possibilty
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November 17, 2013 8:51:50 AM

bdiddytampa said:
Ludogorets said:
I guess there is no good way to fix the screen tearing :(  but how aboult those annyoing line waves acrossing the monitor while gaming? i have just tested an HDMI cable with a 19" TV 1280x750 60Hz ,and the wasnt a single line.. only screen tearing,so i guess i should get an HDMI to DVI-D cable.. at least will fix those lines.


Maybe there is something wrong with the adapter you are using to convert to VGA? That could be a possibilty


I have bought a new cable DVI-I to VGA but still same.
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November 17, 2013 8:52:21 AM

bdiddytampa said:
Ludogorets said:
I guess there is no good way to fix the screen tearing :(  but how aboult those annyoing line waves acrossing the monitor while gaming? i have just tested an HDMI cable with a 19" TV 1280x750 60Hz ,and the wasnt a single line.. only screen tearing,so i guess i should get an HDMI to DVI-D cable.. at least will fix those lines.


Maybe there is something wrong with the adapter you are using to convert to VGA? That could be a possibilty


I have bought a new cable DVI-I to VGA but still same.
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November 17, 2013 8:52:53 AM

bdiddytampa said:
Ludogorets said:
I guess there is no good way to fix the screen tearing :(  but how aboult those annyoing line waves acrossing the monitor while gaming? i have just tested an HDMI cable with a 19" TV 1280x750 60Hz ,and the wasnt a single line.. only screen tearing,so i guess i should get an HDMI to DVI-D cable.. at least will fix those lines.


Maybe there is something wrong with the adapter you are using to convert to VGA? That could be a possibilty


I have bought a new cable DVI-I to VGA but still same.
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November 17, 2013 8:53:05 AM

bdiddytampa said:
Ludogorets said:
I guess there is no good way to fix the screen tearing :(  but how aboult those annyoing line waves acrossing the monitor while gaming? i have just tested an HDMI cable with a 19" TV 1280x750 60Hz ,and the wasnt a single line.. only screen tearing,so i guess i should get an HDMI to DVI-D cable.. at least will fix those lines.


Maybe there is something wrong with the adapter you are using to convert to VGA? That could be a possibilty


I have bought a new cable DVI-I to VGA but still same.
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November 17, 2013 9:17:03 AM

Ludogorets said:

I have bought a new cable DVI-I to VGA but still same.


But it works ok with an HDMI cable?
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November 17, 2013 10:51:23 AM

bdiddytampa said:
Ludogorets said:
I guess there is no good way to fix the screen tearing :(  but how aboult those annyoing line waves acrossing the monitor while gaming? i have just tested an HDMI cable with a 19" TV 1280x750 60Hz ,and the wasnt a single line.. only screen tearing,so i guess i should get an HDMI to DVI-D cable.. at least will fix those lines.


Maybe there is something wrong with the adapter you are using to convert to VGA? That could be a possibilty


bdiddytampa said:
Ludogorets said:

I have bought a new cable DVI-I to VGA but still same.


But it works ok with an HDMI cable?


Yeah but on a monitor with HDMI port... ive tried also the dvi-i to vga with different monitors then mine who got hdmi port aswell,but those wavy lines still exist,then i changed that cable with hdmi cable, and it was ok... And im confised now... i dont know if DVI-D to HDMI will fix the lines just like HDMI to HDMI.
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November 17, 2013 11:02:21 AM

You could get an Nvidia card so you can enable Adaptive VSync, which solves mouse lag and screen tearing at the same time. You can also invest in a monitor with G-Sync to completely eliminate screen tearing with framerates above your screen's refresh rate; again only works with Nvidia.

On your current setup, you only choices are to enable VSync and Triple Buffering, which only works on OpenGL games. Then you can use RadeonPro to set an FPS cap at 59 or 60.
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November 17, 2013 1:52:52 PM

Ludogorets said:

Yeah but on a monitor with HDMI port... ive tried also the dvi-i to vga with different monitors then mine who got hdmi port aswell,but those wavy lines still exist,then i changed that cable with hdmi cable, and it was ok... And im confised now... i dont know if DVI-D to HDMI will fix the lines just like HDMI to HDMI.


So is it screen tearing or wavy lines? Those are very different.

This is screen tearing:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Tear...

Where the image doesn't match up because it's rendering multiple frames in the same image. Wavy lines would be something else entirely.
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November 18, 2013 3:35:29 AM

bdiddytampa said:
Ludogorets said:

Yeah but on a monitor with HDMI port... ive tried also the dvi-i to vga with different monitors then mine who got hdmi port aswell,but those wavy lines still exist,then i changed that cable with hdmi cable, and it was ok... And im confised now... i dont know if DVI-D to HDMI will fix the lines just like HDMI to HDMI.


So is it screen tearing or wavy lines? Those are very different.

This is screen tearing:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Tear...

Where the image doesn't match up because it's rendering multiple frames in the same image. Wavy lines would be something else entirely.


I got both problems the screen tearing and the wavy lines. From the start i though that the screen tearing causes those wavy lines,somehow i was right,because when i turn on vsync,the wavy lines doesnt entirely hide,still a small amount of them are scrolling. I replaced my VGA with DVI-D / HDMI and those wavy lines are completely GONE. The wavy lines are caused by VGA... dont know how,i guess VGA is not good enough for strong GPU... well anyway if anyone has problems with "WAVY LINES" just use DVI-D / HDMI cable or..DON'T USE VGA cable. Now i have tried enabling Triple Buffering from Radeonpro,and the screen tear is gone aswell :) . So thank you guys for the help. You're all awesome people.:bounce: 
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November 18, 2013 7:00:35 AM

nice, VGA should be fine for whatever you use it for, I'm thinking one of the plugs on either your monitor or GPU was bad, glad you got it sorted out :-D
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