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November 17, 2013 5:36:31 PM

Hello,
I would like to build a PC for gaming. My budget is 1200-1300 but i am willing to go a little above for maybe a better GPU.
Preferences: i7(K, Hoping to OC)? SSD, 1tb HDD, And an optical drive. Thanks a ton! (Might SLI in the future)

November 17, 2013 5:40:38 PM

You want an i5 not an i7. There is no difference in gaming performance at all, making the i7 a waste of money.
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November 17, 2013 5:41:45 PM

tiny voices said:
You want an i5 not an i7. There is no difference in gaming performance at all, making the i7 a waste of money.


Ok, How about an i5 4670k which i was looking at earlier.
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November 17, 2013 5:43:32 PM

Yes, that is what you want to look at.

You will need a z87 motherboard to overclock with and a decent CPU cooler like a Coolermaster hyper 212 evo.

Add to that 8gb RAM, 120gb SSD, 1tb HDD, case (Antec, Corsair, NZXT, Fractal design, Coolermaster), and a 600w PSU (Antec, XFX, Corsair, Seasonic) and you are good to go!
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November 17, 2013 5:56:22 PM

tiny voices said:
Yes, that is what you want to look at.

You will need a z87 motherboard to overclock with and a decent CPU cooler like a Coolermaster hyper 212 evo.

Add to that 8gb RAM, 120gb SSD, 1tb HDD, case (Antec, Corsair, NZXT, Fractal design, Coolermaster), and a 600w PSU (Antec, XFX, Corsair, Seasonic) and you are good to go!


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/241wh Is this a good build?
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November 17, 2013 5:57:57 PM

The PSU is not good. Change it to the brands I listed.

The motherboard is a bit cheap for overclocking.

RAM is CAS11. You want CAS9. Lower CAS = faster.

Get win8.1 for sure.

Everything else looks good.

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November 17, 2013 6:01:36 PM

tiny voices said:
The PSU is not good. Change it to the brands I listed.

The motherboard is a bit cheap for overclocking.

RAM is CAS11. You want CAS9. Lower CAS = faster.

Get win8.1 for sure.

Everything else looks good.



What are the benefits of windows 8.1? over 7 home premium
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November 17, 2013 6:02:55 PM

It is faster in basically every single application, including games.
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November 17, 2013 6:04:13 PM

Here is my recommended spec - you could easily add a aftermarket CPU cooler to overclock down the road or you could swap the 770 to a 780 if you really want the extra muscle but this rig should be able to tackle any task you throw at it.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/241Jm
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November 17, 2013 6:09:59 PM

game junky said:
Here is my recommended spec - you could easily add a aftermarket CPU cooler to overclock down the road or you could swap the 770 to a 780 if you really want the extra muscle but this rig should be able to tackle any task you throw at it.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/241Jm




The RAM is not compatible with intel CPUs. You NEED 1.5v RAM.

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November 17, 2013 6:11:12 PM

tiny voices said:
It is faster in basically every single application, including games.


Okay, but its a whole new layout. So ill do some research and stuff.
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November 17, 2013 6:11:55 PM

It is not really a new layout at all. You can do EVERYTHING form win7.
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November 17, 2013 6:31:25 PM

tiny voices said:
It is not really a new layout at all. You can do EVERYTHING form win7.


Okay and what peripherals do you recommend for gaming?
I have a Logitech k120 keyboard.
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November 17, 2013 6:34:52 PM

That will be fine. I have a Corsair m95 mouse that I like alot. Razer make good mice but they are very overpriced. I also use an older Logitech g15 that I can't bring myself to upgrade.

Do you need monitor advice?
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November 17, 2013 6:41:11 PM

tiny voices said:
That will be fine. I have a Corsair m95 mouse that I like alot. Razer make good mice but they are very overpriced. I also use an older Logitech g15 that I can't bring myself to upgrade.

Do you need monitor advice?


I have an older monitor but i would like a newer one, So yes i would love some advice :D 
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November 17, 2013 6:45:26 PM

Get any 1080p monitor. You want one that is LED and preferably one that is an IPS panel.
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November 17, 2013 6:51:36 PM

tiny voices said:
Get any 1080p monitor. You want one that is LED and preferably one that is an IPS panel.


AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor is the one i chose. Is it good?
Its IPS and LED
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November 17, 2013 6:52:35 PM

Yes, that is a great choice.
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November 17, 2013 6:54:41 PM

tiny voices said:
Yes, that is a great choice.


Awesome thanks, And what brand case fans do you recommend? I was thinking Fractal Design ones?
EDIT* these are the updated parts.
*Mushkin Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory
*EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card
*Antec TruePower Classic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
*Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit)
*Logitech G700 Wireless Laser Mouse
*AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor

For the ram it says this: Mushkin Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory operating voltage of 1.65V exceeds the Intel Haswell CPU recommended maximum of 1.5V+5% (1.575V). This memory module may run at a reduced clock rate to meet the 1.5V voltage recommendation, or may require running at a voltage greater than the Intel recommended maximum.
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November 17, 2013 6:56:45 PM

Corsair case fans for sure.

That RAM isn't going to work. NEEDS to be 1.5v.

I would NEVER get a wireless mouse for gaming. I made that mistake once.

Everything else looks good.
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November 17, 2013 7:03:16 PM

tiny voices said:
Corsair case fans for sure.

That RAM isn't going to work. NEEDS to be 1.5v.

I would NEVER get a wireless mouse for gaming. I made that mistake once.

Everything else looks good.


All right,
New parts

Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

Razer Naga 2014 Wired Laser Mouse

And i have a question, Laser or Optical?
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November 17, 2013 7:06:00 PM

Neither is really better. Laser can operate at a higher DPI but for people like me who use an average DPI setting, it doesn't matter.

Both are perfectly fine.

That RAM will be fine.
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November 17, 2013 7:08:26 PM

tiny voices said:
Neither is really better. Laser can operate at a higher DPI but for people like me who use an average DPI setting, it doesn't matter.

Both are perfectly fine.

That RAM will be fine.


Cool, And I was looking at your build. What is the CPU clocked at? and is the GPU good for modern games?
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November 17, 2013 7:13:06 PM

The GPU gets high-max settings at 1080p in modern games but it is cutting it close for max settings in new games. I am picking up a second used 660ti for SLI in a few weeks. I recently sold my 2 gtx560s and bought the first 660ti, planing for 660ti SLI. My CPU is not technically fully unlocked. (not a K edition). I t is normally at 2.9ghz and I have it clocked at a max of 3.3ghz. Doesn't even try hard in any games I play. The Overclock doesn't really do much. I did it as more of a "hobby"/"now I have an overclocked CPU" type of thing.
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November 17, 2013 7:14:36 PM

tiny voices said:
The GPU gets high-max settings at 1080p in modern games but it is cutting it close for max settings in new games. I am picking up a second used 660ti for SLI in a few weeks. My CPU is not technically fully unlocked. (not a K edition). I t is normally at 2.9ghz and I have it clocked at a max of 3.3ghz. Doesn't even try hard in any games I play. The Overclock doesn't really do much. I did it as more of a "hobby"/"now I have an overclocked CPU" type of thing.


Thats cool. When you do SLI do you need special drivers or just one set for the type of card?
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November 17, 2013 7:16:30 PM

You need nothing special. Just enable SLI in the nvidia control panel. As long as you have a motherboard that fully supports it with x8/x8 PCI-e lanes and a suitable PSU you are good to go.
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November 17, 2013 7:18:10 PM

tiny voices said:
You need nothing special. Just enable SLI in the nvidia control panel. As long as you have a motherboard that fully supports it with x8/x8 PCI-e lanes and a suitable PSU you are good to go.


OK, And which do you think is better EVGA precision X or OC guru II? (for OC'ing GPUs)
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November 17, 2013 7:18:47 PM

Neither, MSI afterburner for sure.
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