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$500-$700 gaming build, quite a few questions

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November 17, 2013 7:02:32 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: parts ordered well before Christmas

Budget Range: $500-$700, depending on a few factors (which I will write below)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, school, basic usage

Are you buying a monitor: Possibly, see additional comments at the bottom

Parts to Upgrade: all

Do you need to buy OS: Yes, Windows 7 preferably

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: any website really, you guys probably know best

Location: WA State, USA

Parts Preferences: no pref- on the final price

SLI or Crossfire: no

Your Monitor Resolution: depends on if I need to buy a monitor

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: laptop is degrading to a point where I almost can't play games on it

Additional Comments:

1. Connecting directly to the router isn't an option, so I'll need to connect wirelessly. I wasn't sure where else to put this since I don't know exactly how wireless cards/adapters work.

2. Right now I have a 22 inch hdtv that I was thinking of using as my monitor, but I don't know if I should. Link to my TV (http://www.amazon.com/Magnavox-22ME402V-F7-22-Inch-Clas...). I've also heard that when using a TV as a monitor, you can experience input lag of varying degrees. If so, I'd like to just buy a monitor as I couldn't stand artificial lag for the games I play.

3. Games I play are: World of Warcraft, Diablo 3, League of Legends, Fallout 3, Black Ops 2, CS:GO, ect.

4. Most games I play now I play at the lowest possible settings, usually with low but playable (sometimes unplayable) fps. What I'm looking to get out of this computer is good framerate (constant 45+) on medium-high settings. So I've been curious where the most "efficient" price is for a somewhat lower end computer (be it 500 gets you X, but another ~100 will get you Y, so long as you dont go over Z (700), <-- hopefully someone can understand that.

5. That should be all, thanks for any help/input!

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a c 88 C Monitor
November 17, 2013 7:07:52 PM

The TV should be fine.

You will need a wireless adapter. Either USB or PCI. But, remember gaming on a wireless connection is NEVER ideal.

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November 17, 2013 7:21:42 PM

I wouldn't argue that wireless is ideal, but it's the only option I have. Is there any difference between wireless on a laptop and wireless on a desktop? Because I've been playing on my laptop for about 4 years now, solely with a wireless connection, and I'm wondering if there will be a difference when switching to a desktop
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a c 88 C Monitor
November 17, 2013 7:22:33 PM

No there will be no difference as long as you get a good adapter.

Wireless is wireless. There is ZERO difference between using it on a laptop, or phone, or desktop, or ipod, or microwave.
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a b C Monitor
November 17, 2013 7:24:19 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Kingston Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.98 @ PCM)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.94 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($163.98 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN725N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($8.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.83 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $671.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-17 22:23 EST-0500)

Under budget after MiR's, overkill for a 720p monitor, but I assume you'll upgrade to a 1080p monitor eventually. You'll want to purchase a Cpu cooler too down the road, but not necessary immediately. This will give you good bang for your buck.
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a b C Monitor
November 17, 2013 7:30:08 PM

$700 should be minimal because you are also including an OS.

For your monitor its your decision whether or not you want to upgrade. Your link doesn't work so i'm not sure how your monitor is. If the refresh rate is 60Hz or higher and 7ms or lower then you should be fine. But of course, a better monitor with higher refresh rate and good response time WILL give you a better advantage.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($53.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.94 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($170.66 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N10 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($26.21 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.72 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $664.47
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-17 22:30 EST-0500)
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a b C Monitor
November 17, 2013 7:54:15 PM

jjs0891 said:
$700 should be minimal because you are also including an OS.

For your monitor its your decision whether or not you want to upgrade. Your link doesn't work so i'm not sure how your monitor is. If the refresh rate is 60Hz or higher and 7ms or lower then you should be fine. But of course, a better monitor with higher refresh rate and good response time WILL give you a better advantage.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($53.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.94 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($170.66 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N10 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($26.21 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.72 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $664.47
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-17 22:30 EST-0500)


That video card is unavailable. Not too surprising given the price though, lol.

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December 2, 2013 3:19:00 PM

Swordkd said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Kingston Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.98 @ PCM)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.94 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($163.98 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN725N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($8.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.83 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $671.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-17 22:23 EST-0500)

Under budget after MiR's, overkill for a 720p monitor, but I assume you'll upgrade to a 1080p monitor eventually. You'll want to purchase a Cpu cooler too down the road, but not necessary immediately. This will give you good bang for your buck.


This looks really good, but I slacked on ordering the parts, but the price went up by ~$100 in a weeks time. I've been following the builds price and it hasn't dropped substantially since you posted.

If anyone else could make another build that'd be great, and I'll be sure to order the parts asap to avoid this problem again
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a b C Monitor
December 2, 2013 4:45:11 PM

Only thing that really changes is the video card. Most everything else is actually an upgrade over what we had originally.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6350 3.9GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN725N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($7.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Corsair 330R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $667.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-02 19:44 EST-0500)
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December 2, 2013 4:58:37 PM

Swordkd said:
Only thing that really changes is the video card. Most everything else is actually an upgrade over what we had originally.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6350 3.9GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN725N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($7.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Corsair 330R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $667.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-02 19:44 EST-0500)


Thanks. What do I do if parts are out of stock on the websites listed by PcPartPicker? I don't know that I'm 100% comfortable buying them from a different website in case I mess up the exact part and it won't be compatible with the rest of the build
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a b C Monitor
December 2, 2013 5:02:39 PM

You won't mess it up, and all of those sites are solid, reputable sites. I could change it all to newegg though, hold on.

Ok, I kept the two parts that were on Amazon.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6350 3.9GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN725N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 330R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $678.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-02 20:03 EST-0500)
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December 2, 2013 5:06:20 PM

Swordkd said:
You won't mess it up, and all of those sites are solid, reputable sites. I could change it all to newegg though, hold on.

Ok, I kept the two parts that were on Amazon.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6350 3.9GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN725N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 330R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $678.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-02 20:03 EST-0500)


The cpu is out of stock on newegg, do I just go to a different website then?

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a b C Monitor
December 2, 2013 5:06:48 PM

Ok, after checking the in-stock on the rest of the items, this is what we have:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN725N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 330R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $689.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-02 20:10 EST-0500)
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December 2, 2013 5:10:46 PM

Sorry if I'm being a hassle, I just really don't want to mess up and order anything wrong. The CPU is still shown as out of stock on newegg for me, would any other website do for that part? I'm seeing the rest in stock though
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a b C Monitor
December 2, 2013 5:12:45 PM

If you don't mind spending a little more, NCIX has the fx6350 in stock for 10 dollars more than neweggs fx6300. And if you buy the fx6350 from NCIX, might as well buy the cooler from there too.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6350 3.9GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN725N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 330R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $693.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-02 20:13 EST-0500)
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a b C Monitor
December 2, 2013 5:28:17 PM

This is the best build for your money right now. Some parts are sold out at the moment but the PSU is a steal and you should order it today.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN722N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($14.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $693.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-02 20:29 EST-0500)
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a b C Monitor
December 2, 2013 6:24:56 PM

Just curious as to why you didn't go with the build I posted.. It's a lot better and is the same price.
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