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November 19, 2013 12:22:05 AM

Which is better, Asus MARS 760 vs Asus R9 290x?
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November 19, 2013 12:23:43 AM

The Asus R9 290x is much, much better.
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November 19, 2013 12:27:20 AM

Well since the MARS 760 is not out yet there is no way to say for sure but Asus says it's faster than any single card. No idea of price yet either but with the 290X you pretty much have to factor in an aftermarket cooler if you want it to work correctly and not sound like a plane landing. The MARS will have all the downsides of a multi GPU like lack of support in some games and microstuttering. Wait for a 290X with a decent cooler or get a GTX 780 Ti.
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November 19, 2013 12:36:12 AM

There isn't any need to mess around with SLI at that price, if you are prepared to pay that much for a single card just get a GTX 780 or a R9-290.
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November 19, 2013 1:05:08 AM

anort3 said:
Well since the MARS 760 is not out yet there is no way to say for sure but Asus says it's faster than any single card. No idea of price yet either but with the 290X you pretty much have to factor in an aftermarket cooler if you want it to work correctly and not sound like a plane landing. The MARS will have all the downsides of a multi GPU like lack of support in some games and microstuttering. Wait for a 290X with a decent cooler or get a GTX 780 Ti.


What "aftermarket cooler" do you recommand keep in mind i am getting the Define R4 Black Pearl case.
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November 19, 2013 9:24:50 AM

anort3 said:
Well since the MARS 760 is not out yet there is no way to say for sure but Asus says it's faster than any single card. No idea of price yet either but with the 290X you pretty much have to factor in an aftermarket cooler if you want it to work correctly and not sound like a plane landing. The MARS will have all the downsides of a multi GPU like lack of support in some games and microstuttering. Wait for a 290X with a decent cooler or get a GTX 780 Ti.


TBH microstuttering is barely an issue with SLI now
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November 19, 2013 9:27:07 AM

I don't know. I would never buy a graphics card you have to void the warranty on by installing an aftermarket cooler on it just to get it to work correctly. The R9 290 and 290X have great potential but right now they are a failure in my opinion. At least the coolers are. There is no excuse to sell a product to the public that does not work without modification. If you don't mind losing the warranty then just look around and see what results people are getting with different coolers.
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November 19, 2013 12:01:17 PM

anort3 said:
I don't know. I would never buy a graphics card you have to void the warranty on by installing an aftermarket cooler on it just to get it to work correctly. The R9 290 and 290X have great potential but right now they are a failure in my opinion. At least the coolers are. There is no excuse to sell a product to the public that does not work without modification. If you don't mind losing the warranty then just look around and see what results people are getting with different coolers.


Yeah, the coolers are awful, nvidia have the reference cooler down with the titan blower cooler, I'd only buy a reference AMD card if I was going to watercool it.
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November 19, 2013 10:09:36 PM

Tom's just recently published a couple articles about the aftermarket cooling they tried. The thing they noticed that was the biggest issue with the heat problems associated with the 290/290x were that too much thermal paste was applied (probably by hand).
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November 19, 2013 10:40:35 PM

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Tom's just recently published a couple articles about the aftermarket cooling they tried. The thing they noticed that was the biggest issue with the heat problems associated with the 290/290x were that too much thermal paste was applied (probably by hand).


And that the coolers themselves looked like they had been handled by blind monkeys with crowbars :lol: 

Seriously though one of the least professional new card rollouts in history especially for a flagship card. And while new thermal paste helped it did not fix any of the heat problems it just slowed them down.
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November 19, 2013 10:42:39 PM

lol youd be far better off getting two 670's for $199-$219 like ive been seeing them come on deals lately and selling out quickly. two actual cards will dispell more heat and likely overclock farther than a dual gpu card anyways. plus as is almost always... and very much so in this case... the two seperate cards are less expensive than a dual gpu card. dual gpu cards are for overclockers... not gamers... who want to sli them but not use up the space on their pcie lanes and put up numbers.
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November 19, 2013 11:51:23 PM

anort3 said:

And that the coolers themselves looked like they had been handled by blind monkeys with crowbars :lol: 

Seriously though one of the least professional new card rollouts in history especially for a flagship card. And while new thermal paste helped it did not fix any of the heat problems it just slowed them down.


I know! I couldn't believe what I was seeing. How could this happen for a flagship card? And you're right, putting on thermal paste correctly and adding the aftermarket cooler/fans only delayed the heat issue. The cards run faster, but not THAT much faster.
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November 22, 2013 12:10:14 AM

Last question, what does it mean when the card is on 100% for the Gigabyte R9 290x?
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November 22, 2013 12:19:34 AM

Alex Mck said:
Last question, what does it mean when the card is on 100% for the Gigabyte R9 290x?


I'm not sure what you mean? You have a link to what it says?
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November 22, 2013 12:52:38 AM

anort3 said:
Alex Mck said:
Last question, what does it mean when the card is on 100% for the Gigabyte R9 290x?


I'm not sure what you mean? You have a link to what it says?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpD_r53qxJc
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November 22, 2013 1:00:44 AM

Ah. The fan is running at 100%. It sounds like a plane taking off.
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November 22, 2013 1:05:58 AM

anort3 said:
Ah. The fan is running at 100%. It sounds like a plane taking off.


i know :( 
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November 30, 2013 4:12:17 PM

I think the Mars 760 is by far the better choice. You can't run SLI for them (unless willing to deal with 4-way Sli) It won't cook your PC. It also comes with all of Nvidia's stuff like Advanced PhysX and Nvidia Experience. (I honestly have no clue what AMD brings as equivalent)

The Card itself Clumps the 780 on the head and can easily compete with 780 Ti and it is actually more powerful than the R9 290X.

Mars is a Plug and go solution vs SLIing two 760s. I would suggest doing the SLI 760 because it's $100 cheaper than both choices.
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November 30, 2013 4:39:38 PM

Mars 760 is already SLI... I prefer single cards, but 290x is far to loud so I would grab a 780/780ti although I prefer AMD cause I never used Physx and their 'features' I pay extra for while most of them are free for radeon
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December 1, 2013 5:03:59 PM

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Mars 760 is already SLI... I prefer single cards, but 290x is far to loud so I would grab a 780/780ti although I prefer AMD cause I never used Physx and their 'features' I pay extra for while most of them are free for radeon


The CUDA Core is a beefier more advanced version of a Stream Processor. Thus why Nvidia cards sell with less. They also allow for an option called: "Advanced PhysX both Nvidia and AMD can do normal but Advanced is Nvidia Unique.

Here is an example of Advanced PhysX resulting in a improved overall quality of things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VafzR7JqO2I

It's mostly small details that improve the overall quality of the game.

I'm not sure the MARS would come with the Holiday bundle making the 780 a much more attractive option.
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