AMD Kaveri queries

gamerbloke

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So AMD Kaveri is an APU based on Steamroller... i want to know that
1) Will it beat FX-6300 for around same price?
2) Will there be CPU(no igpu- hope to see FX-64XX) with Steamroller or AMD is now switching on APUs only?
3) Will wait for Kaveri till March 2014 be worth?
 

if you're buying after feb. 2014, you will have plenty of time to analysis the kaveri reviews and other information. right now, you're asking too early.
if you're gonna use a radeon hd 7770, either fx6300 or kaveri would be fine because the 7770 is not too powerful. if you use radeon hd 7850 and higher gfx cards, then you should wait to see how kaveri performs with strong gfx cards and then compare it to fx6300's performance.
also keep in mind that kaveri will use socket fm2+ motherboards while fx6300 uses am3+ motherboards, so platform switching will require new motherboard.
 

ericore

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You will need to overclock Kaveri to see its full fruit; 3.7GHZ simply isn't enough.
If you overclock it to 4.4 ghz (easily doable with any type of water cooling) than at that point, you can make an argument for it being faster than FX-6300. It's single threaded performance is naturally improved by 15-20%, but you only see the fruit of that if you perform said overclock. Kaveri by default and even more so by overclock will have great performance improvements for Dolphin Emulator which only uses 3 cores. It will also give games a 5-10 FPS boost simply do to improved single threaded performance (this does not take the new GPU into account). It will beat FX-6300 in power efficiency easily. However, it's overclocked version will give you nearly 6 core FX-6300 performance. So to answer your question, no performance improvement for any app that used all cores on FX-6300, and about 25% general single thread performance improvements on the overclock which is rather nice. Get Thermaltake's latest water cooler version 3.

For question 2, the answer is not happening in 2014 (100% chance of that being the case) If AMD does reenter the FX series, it will be with a new motherboard which supports DDR4; so I think answered a few of your concerns.

Will the wait be worth it. I'd have to say, no for stock performance, yes for overclock. It's a win for emulators. You can watch 4k video with it. You can eyeinfinity 4 displays with it. It has true audio, and X264 offloading. It has mantle which will give you min 25% boost on min FPS for supported games. If you like lots of power (graphics and gpu) in a small envelop like I do, its the only APU that delivers this at 120-150$ compared to Intel's Iris at like 400$. But I strongly recommend water cooling set, even if you already have a cooler or have never ventured into water cooling. 60$ isn't too bad for watercooling, get v3.
 

ericore

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Another thing, the FX series can feel a little buggy on Windows 7, and certain apps like firefox feel more buggy than they are. This would not be the case with Kaveri. But spoiler alert, AMD will release a new chipset for FM2+ with DDR4 support, but that's only hitting December 2014 - 2015 Q2, but that will be idea for whatever chip replaces Kaveri; and will make Kaveri much much much much faster since DDR4 is nearly twice as fast as DDR3. Apps like Firefox feel more responsive with an APU.
 

gamerbloke

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Its better i wait for launch and see what it has to offer... atleast i can expext price drop in 6300 (i know i will be going with 6300 coz then fm2 mobo will take time to settle in market hence wait will be extended to Q3 2014) B)
 

ericore

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Comments for all comments made. It's easy to predict graphics performance. You know the ram is DDR3, so you know that sets a low sealing for 1080p gaming, forget 4k gaming unless its something like harvest moon 2d. As for gamebloke, you are a cheap/poor guy; i'm sort of in the same position but not that cheap. This knows the AM3+ motherboard goes for 40$ so doesn't want to get Kaveri because he knows he'll have to shell double that. Lmao. Don't down Kaveri with your cheapness. Let me put in simple terms, you know how Intel is always flashing in FPS in games, and where AMD lags on the cpu side when equipped with dedicated GPU. Kaveri does not beat intel, but it severely closes the gap. It is an extremely well engineered chip; much better then your 125W to 220W FX 6 core; I mean if you want a buggy hot gas guzzler ya, stick with FX. If you want a Porsche, go with Kaveri.
 

gamerbloke

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@ericore its not about Pauper or Richness,, its just that there is a huge price difference between west and India! That 140$ R7 260X (as cheap as hell) is priced around 190$ here, so main motto is to dwell in budget and getting maximum in it plus keeping in mind what new is gonna launch when u are at the verge of purchase so that u dont get dumped by technology! That said i will definitely lookout for Kaveri
(when on Earth will Newegg come here not to mention offering same price,, day will turn Indian market upside down)