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November 20, 2013 11:29:12 PM

I am planning on building a new PC with the thought that the next-gen games will up the ante for PC requirements. Through what I have been reading this is the setup I have come up with so far:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/25THr

I am unsure on a few things:
-What to get for a motherboard
-SSD
-If I should get a CPU cooler
-If I need anything more to use two screens at once
-If all these parts are compatible
-If I am forgetting anything else :p 

all suggestions are welcome.

Thanks!
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November 20, 2013 11:51:28 PM

Motherboard would be something like http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-crossh... . Although there are cheaper options if you choose this then you can leave the Asus Xonar sound card and maybe push that into a better GPU or so

CPU cooler is needed if you want to overclock or when the CPU does not come with one.

If you are just going to use the PC for gaming then a SSD is just a luxury. You won't see any gaming benefit except maybe for faster loading screens when the game is on the SSD. So thats about it.

Two monitors. Nothing. Just another Monitor :p 

I would maybe suggest you look at a different graphics card. I've heard quite a lot of complaining about the one you chose. Heat and stuttering etc. Maybe a driver fixed some of that. But its up to you

I would consider going to windows 8 as it has better CPU management and runs games like battlefield 4 better. Also has support for directx 11.1 and 11.2 etc.

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November 21, 2013 12:07:06 AM

ZionZA said:
Motherboard would be something like http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-crossh... . Although there are cheaper options if you choose this then you can leave the Asus Xonar sound card and maybe push that into a better GPU or so

CPU cooler is needed if you want to overclock or when the CPU does not come with one.

If you are just going to use the PC for gaming then a SSD is just a luxury. You won't see any gaming benefit except maybe for faster loading screens when the game is on the SSD. So thats about it.

Two monitors. Nothing. Just another Monitor :p 

I would maybe suggest you look at a different graphics card. I've heard quite a lot of complaining about the one you chose. Heat and stuttering etc. Maybe a driver fixed some of that. But its up to you

I would consider going to windows 8 as it has better CPU management and runs games like battlefield 4 better. Also has support for directx 11.1 and 11.2 etc.



What kind of graphics card would you suggest instead?

And I wouldn't actually need the sound card at all would I? the computer I built over the summer didn't need one.

Also I totally forgot about windows 8 running battlefield 4 better. I just automatically went with windows 7 due to the complaints of windows 8.
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a b V Motherboard
November 21, 2013 12:11:49 AM

SozBoutUrSize said:
ZionZA said:
Motherboard would be something like http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-crossh... . Although there are cheaper options if you choose this then you can leave the Asus Xonar sound card and maybe push that into a better GPU or so

CPU cooler is needed if you want to overclock or when the CPU does not come with one.

If you are just going to use the PC for gaming then a SSD is just a luxury. You won't see any gaming benefit except maybe for faster loading screens when the game is on the SSD. So thats about it.

Two monitors. Nothing. Just another Monitor :p 

I would maybe suggest you look at a different graphics card. I've heard quite a lot of complaining about the one you chose. Heat and stuttering etc. Maybe a driver fixed some of that. But its up to you

I would consider going to windows 8 as it has better CPU management and runs games like battlefield 4 better. Also has support for directx 11.1 and 11.2 etc.



What kind of graphics card would you suggest instead?

And I wouldn't actually need the sound card at all would I? the computer I built over the summer didn't need one.

Also I totally forgot about windows 8 running battlefield 4 better. I just automatically went with windows 7 due to the complaints of windows 8.


I've been using windows 8 for almost a year now and I can't say I have any issue with it. Except for the Start button being missing. WIndows 8.1 returns the start button though.

Graphics card at the price of the one you posted would be a GTX 780 like tyson2295 mentioned. Maybe even look at the GTX 780 ti like http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-03gp428...

You won't really need a soundcard. Most motherboards come with decent ones. The ones on the Asus ROG series motherboards are good. Some people say they notice a clear difference over other onboard sound cards.
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November 21, 2013 12:13:08 AM

tyson2295 said:
get this GPU instead http://www.amazon.co.uk/GeForce-DirectCU-Graphics-Expre...
1 strong card is better than 2 gpus less power draw and more support than dual gpu configs and no microstutter
hec you could even go for the 780 ti which is faster than the titan in games http://www.cclonline.com/product/128803/GV-N78TD5-3GD-B...


The reason I picked the GPU I did was I saw it suggested somewhere and I didn't really question it because it had 6GB. Would one of those cards with 3GB be enough to last at least a year or two?
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November 21, 2013 12:14:15 AM

SozBoutUrSize said:
tyson2295 said:
get this GPU instead http://www.amazon.co.uk/GeForce-DirectCU-Graphics-Expre...
1 strong card is better than 2 gpus less power draw and more support than dual gpu configs and no microstutter
hec you could even go for the 780 ti which is faster than the titan in games http://www.cclonline.com/product/128803/GV-N78TD5-3GD-B...


The reason I picked the GPU I did was I saw it suggested somewhere and I didn't really question it because it had 6GB. Would one of those cards with 3GB be enough to last at least a year or two?


try 2-5 :) 
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November 21, 2013 12:16:00 AM

ZionZA said:
SozBoutUrSize said:
ZionZA said:
Motherboard would be something like http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-crossh... . Although there are cheaper options if you choose this then you can leave the Asus Xonar sound card and maybe push that into a better GPU or so

CPU cooler is needed if you want to overclock or when the CPU does not come with one.

If you are just going to use the PC for gaming then a SSD is just a luxury. You won't see any gaming benefit except maybe for faster loading screens when the game is on the SSD. So thats about it.

Two monitors. Nothing. Just another Monitor :p 

I would maybe suggest you look at a different graphics card. I've heard quite a lot of complaining about the one you chose. Heat and stuttering etc. Maybe a driver fixed some of that. But its up to you

I would consider going to windows 8 as it has better CPU management and runs games like battlefield 4 better. Also has support for directx 11.1 and 11.2 etc.



What kind of graphics card would you suggest instead?

And I wouldn't actually need the sound card at all would I? the computer I built over the summer didn't need one.

Also I totally forgot about windows 8 running battlefield 4 better. I just automatically went with windows 7 due to the complaints of windows 8.


I've been using windows 8 for almost a year now and I can't say I have any issue with it. Except for the Start button being missing. WIndows 8.1 returns the start button though.

Graphics card at the price of the one you posted would be a GTX 780 like tyson2295 mentioned. Maybe even look at the GTX 780 ti like http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-03gp428...

You won't really need a soundcard. Most motherboards come with decent ones. The ones on the Asus ROG series motherboards are good. Some people say they notice a clear difference over other onboard sound cards.


I told this to tyson but I don't think you'll see that response :p  I picked that one because it had the 6GB and I saw it suggested somewhere so I thought it would be good. the ones you two suggested have 3GB, but would that still be good to last me at least a year or two?
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November 21, 2013 12:16:59 AM

SozBoutUrSize said:
ZionZA said:
SozBoutUrSize said:
ZionZA said:
Motherboard would be something like http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-crossh... . Although there are cheaper options if you choose this then you can leave the Asus Xonar sound card and maybe push that into a better GPU or so

CPU cooler is needed if you want to overclock or when the CPU does not come with one.

If you are just going to use the PC for gaming then a SSD is just a luxury. You won't see any gaming benefit except maybe for faster loading screens when the game is on the SSD. So thats about it.

Two monitors. Nothing. Just another Monitor :p 

I would maybe suggest you look at a different graphics card. I've heard quite a lot of complaining about the one you chose. Heat and stuttering etc. Maybe a driver fixed some of that. But its up to you

I would consider going to windows 8 as it has better CPU management and runs games like battlefield 4 better. Also has support for directx 11.1 and 11.2 etc.



What kind of graphics card would you suggest instead?

And I wouldn't actually need the sound card at all would I? the computer I built over the summer didn't need one.

Also I totally forgot about windows 8 running battlefield 4 better. I just automatically went with windows 7 due to the complaints of windows 8.


I've been using windows 8 for almost a year now and I can't say I have any issue with it. Except for the Start button being missing. WIndows 8.1 returns the start button though.

Graphics card at the price of the one you posted would be a GTX 780 like tyson2295 mentioned. Maybe even look at the GTX 780 ti like http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-03gp428...

You won't really need a soundcard. Most motherboards come with decent ones. The ones on the Asus ROG series motherboards are good. Some people say they notice a clear difference over other onboard sound cards.


I told this to tyson but I don't think you'll see that response :p  I picked that one because it had the 6GB and I saw it suggested somewhere so I thought it would be good. the ones you two suggested have 3GB, but would that still be good to last me at least a year or two?


unless you private message everyone can see the post man :) 
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November 21, 2013 12:17:05 AM

SozBoutUrSize said:
tyson2295 said:
get this GPU instead http://www.amazon.co.uk/GeForce-DirectCU-Graphics-Expre...
1 strong card is better than 2 gpus less power draw and more support than dual gpu configs and no microstutter
hec you could even go for the 780 ti which is faster than the titan in games http://www.cclonline.com/product/128803/GV-N78TD5-3GD-B...


The reason I picked the GPU I did was I saw it suggested somewhere and I didn't really question it because it had 6GB. Would one of those cards with 3GB be enough to last at least a year or two?


Well if you running on 1080p or 2560x1440 etc then you will be fine. VRAM on graphics cards only become an issue when you run triple monitor setups in surround view or so. Then 3gb and up is recommended. Also you need to remember that the 7990 is a dual gpu card that works as if its in Crossfire config afaik. So that 6gb is actually more like 3gb because its shared between the two GPU's.
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November 21, 2013 12:23:47 AM

ZionZA said:
SozBoutUrSize said:
tyson2295 said:
get this GPU instead http://www.amazon.co.uk/GeForce-DirectCU-Graphics-Expre...
1 strong card is better than 2 gpus less power draw and more support than dual gpu configs and no microstutter
hec you could even go for the 780 ti which is faster than the titan in games http://www.cclonline.com/product/128803/GV-N78TD5-3GD-B...


The reason I picked the GPU I did was I saw it suggested somewhere and I didn't really question it because it had 6GB. Would one of those cards with 3GB be enough to last at least a year or two?


Well if you running on 1080p or 2560x1440 etc then you will be fine. VRAM on graphics cards only become an issue when you run triple monitor setups in surround view or so. Then 3gb and up is recommended. Also you need to remember that the 7990 is a dual gpu card that works as if its in Crossfire config afaik. So that 6gb is actually more like 3gb because its shared between the two GPU's.


Should I go with one of the already suggested GPU's or is there another you would suggest? right now I don't really have a budget I just wanted to keep it semi reasonable :p  I don't necessarily want the newest most expensive thing but I do want it to last me for the years to come.
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a b V Motherboard
November 21, 2013 12:30:00 AM

For years to come isn't really possible with graphics cards. The GTX 580 was a good card 2 years ago. But today it will struggle to run some games. So when choosing a graphics card I generally look at a lifespan of MAX two years to run games maxed/semi maxed out. The 780 or 780 ti will last you another year or two. Maybe three. Future proofing a gaming PC isn't something thats really possible. Unless you throw quite a lot of money at it. And Then I mean dual to triple SLI/Crossfire setups etc etc. But even that would be a waste as you could just save that money to upgrade the graphics card in the future when needed.

So with the cards suggested I would honestly suggest you go for one of those if you were really considering the 7990. Maybe you could even get another one in a few months. But then you would need a 900w PSU or so.
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November 21, 2013 12:34:46 AM

SozBoutUrSize said:
ZionZA said:
SozBoutUrSize said:
tyson2295 said:
get this GPU instead http://www.amazon.co.uk/GeForce-DirectCU-Graphics-Expre...
1 strong card is better than 2 gpus less power draw and more support than dual gpu configs and no microstutter
hec you could even go for the 780 ti which is faster than the titan in games http://www.cclonline.com/product/128803/GV-N78TD5-3GD-B...


The reason I picked the GPU I did was I saw it suggested somewhere and I didn't really question it because it had 6GB. Would one of those cards with 3GB be enough to last at least a year or two?


Well if you running on 1080p or 2560x1440 etc then you will be fine. VRAM on graphics cards only become an issue when you run triple monitor setups in surround view or so. Then 3gb and up is recommended. Also you need to remember that the 7990 is a dual gpu card that works as if its in Crossfire config afaik. So that 6gb is actually more like 3gb because its shared between the two GPU's.


Should I go with one of the already suggested GPU's or is there another you would suggest? right now I don't really have a budget I just wanted to keep it semi reasonable :p  I don't necessarily want the newest most expensive thing but I do want it to last me for the years to come.


the 780 ti would be your best bet if you wanted it to last and later down the road if need be you can get a second and sli them
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November 21, 2013 12:35:57 AM

ZionZA said:
For years to come isn't really possible with graphics cards. The GTX 580 was a good card 2 years ago. But today it will struggle to run some games. So when choosing a graphics card I generally look at a lifespan of MAX two years to run games maxed/semi maxed out. The 780 or 780 ti will last you another year or two. Maybe three. Future proofing a gaming PC isn't something thats really possible. Unless you throw quite a lot of money at it. And Then I mean dual to triple SLI/Crossfire setups etc etc. But even that would be a waste as you could just save that money to upgrade the graphics card in the future when needed.

So with he cards suggested I would honestly suggest you go for one of those if you were really considering the 7990. Maybe you could even get another one in a few months. But then you would need a 900w PSU or so.


I guess upgrading graphics cards every year wouldn't be the end of the world, but would the rest of the computer be fine without upgrades for a longer period of time than the graphics card? I have never been someone who is very picky about how good the graphics are. I'm fine running on medium or so as long as the game play is still smooth enough that it doesn't get frustrating.
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a b V Motherboard
November 21, 2013 12:38:54 AM

SozBoutUrSize said:
ZionZA said:
For years to come isn't really possible with graphics cards. The GTX 580 was a good card 2 years ago. But today it will struggle to run some games. So when choosing a graphics card I generally look at a lifespan of MAX two years to run games maxed/semi maxed out. The 780 or 780 ti will last you another year or two. Maybe three. Future proofing a gaming PC isn't something thats really possible. Unless you throw quite a lot of money at it. And Then I mean dual to triple SLI/Crossfire setups etc etc. But even that would be a waste as you could just save that money to upgrade the graphics card in the future when needed.

So with he cards suggested I would honestly suggest you go for one of those if you were really considering the 7990. Maybe you could even get another one in a few months. But then you would need a 900w PSU or so.


I guess upgrading graphics cards every year wouldn't be the end of the world, but would the rest of the computer be fine without upgrades for a longer period of time than the graphics card? I have never been someone who is very picky about how good the graphics are. I'm fine running on medium or so as long as the game play is still smooth enough that it doesn't get frustrating.


I know some people who like AMD might not agree with me here but if you want the base system (CPU, Motherboard etc) to be fine for the next few years then I would suggest you look at getting an Intel i5 4670k or i7 4770k or non K versions. They will last you longer than the AMD one in my opinion and they have more consistent performance in games than the AMD one.They are also faster. They are more expensive though
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November 21, 2013 12:50:06 AM

tyson2295 said:
SozBoutUrSize said:
ZionZA said:
SozBoutUrSize said:
tyson2295 said:
get this GPU instead http://www.amazon.co.uk/GeForce-DirectCU-Graphics-Expre...
1 strong card is better than 2 gpus less power draw and more support than dual gpu configs and no microstutter
hec you could even go for the 780 ti which is faster than the titan in games http://www.cclonline.com/product/128803/GV-N78TD5-3GD-B...


The reason I picked the GPU I did was I saw it suggested somewhere and I didn't really question it because it had 6GB. Would one of those cards with 3GB be enough to last at least a year or two?


Well if you running on 1080p or 2560x1440 etc then you will be fine. VRAM on graphics cards only become an issue when you run triple monitor setups in surround view or so. Then 3gb and up is recommended. Also you need to remember that the 7990 is a dual gpu card that works as if its in Crossfire config afaik. So that 6gb is actually more like 3gb because its shared between the two GPU's.


Should I go with one of the already suggested GPU's or is there another you would suggest? right now I don't really have a budget I just wanted to keep it semi reasonable :p  I don't necessarily want the newest most expensive thing but I do want it to last me for the years to come.


the 780 ti would be your best bet if you wanted it to last and later down the road if need be you can get a second and sli them


ZionZA said:
SozBoutUrSize said:
ZionZA said:
For years to come isn't really possible with graphics cards. The GTX 580 was a good card 2 years ago. But today it will struggle to run some games. So when choosing a graphics card I generally look at a lifespan of MAX two years to run games maxed/semi maxed out. The 780 or 780 ti will last you another year or two. Maybe three. Future proofing a gaming PC isn't something thats really possible. Unless you throw quite a lot of money at it. And Then I mean dual to triple SLI/Crossfire setups etc etc. But even that would be a waste as you could just save that money to upgrade the graphics card in the future when needed.

So with he cards suggested I would honestly suggest you go for one of those if you were really considering the 7990. Maybe you could even get another one in a few months. But then you would need a 900w PSU or so.


I guess upgrading graphics cards every year wouldn't be the end of the world, but would the rest of the computer be fine without upgrades for a longer period of time than the graphics card? I have never been someone who is very picky about how good the graphics are. I'm fine running on medium or so as long as the game play is still smooth enough that it doesn't get frustrating.


I know some people who like AMD might not agree with me here but if you want the base system (CPU, Motherboard etc) to be fine for the next few years then I would suggest you look at getting an Intel i5 4670k or i7 4770k or non K versions. They will last you longer than the AMD one in my opinion and they have more consistent performance in games than the AMD one.They are also faster. They are more expensive though


I picked this CPU because I read that the consoles will be AMD so the PC versions of games will be able to run better with AMD, or something to that effect.
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November 21, 2013 12:50:28 AM

tyson2295 said:
SozBoutUrSize said:
ZionZA said:
SozBoutUrSize said:
tyson2295 said:
get this GPU instead http://www.amazon.co.uk/GeForce-DirectCU-Graphics-Expre...
1 strong card is better than 2 gpus less power draw and more support than dual gpu configs and no microstutter
hec you could even go for the 780 ti which is faster than the titan in games http://www.cclonline.com/product/128803/GV-N78TD5-3GD-B...


The reason I picked the GPU I did was I saw it suggested somewhere and I didn't really question it because it had 6GB. Would one of those cards with 3GB be enough to last at least a year or two?


Well if you running on 1080p or 2560x1440 etc then you will be fine. VRAM on graphics cards only become an issue when you run triple monitor setups in surround view or so. Then 3gb and up is recommended. Also you need to remember that the 7990 is a dual gpu card that works as if its in Crossfire config afaik. So that 6gb is actually more like 3gb because its shared between the two GPU's.


Should I go with one of the already suggested GPU's or is there another you would suggest? right now I don't really have a budget I just wanted to keep it semi reasonable :p  I don't necessarily want the newest most expensive thing but I do want it to last me for the years to come.


the 780 ti would be your best bet if you wanted it to last and later down the road if need be you can get a second and sli them


ZionZA said:
SozBoutUrSize said:
ZionZA said:
For years to come isn't really possible with graphics cards. The GTX 580 was a good card 2 years ago. But today it will struggle to run some games. So when choosing a graphics card I generally look at a lifespan of MAX two years to run games maxed/semi maxed out. The 780 or 780 ti will last you another year or two. Maybe three. Future proofing a gaming PC isn't something thats really possible. Unless you throw quite a lot of money at it. And Then I mean dual to triple SLI/Crossfire setups etc etc. But even that would be a waste as you could just save that money to upgrade the graphics card in the future when needed.

So with he cards suggested I would honestly suggest you go for one of those if you were really considering the 7990. Maybe you could even get another one in a few months. But then you would need a 900w PSU or so.


I guess upgrading graphics cards every year wouldn't be the end of the world, but would the rest of the computer be fine without upgrades for a longer period of time than the graphics card? I have never been someone who is very picky about how good the graphics are. I'm fine running on medium or so as long as the game play is still smooth enough that it doesn't get frustrating.


I know some people who like AMD might not agree with me here but if you want the base system (CPU, Motherboard etc) to be fine for the next few years then I would suggest you look at getting an Intel i5 4670k or i7 4770k or non K versions. They will last you longer than the AMD one in my opinion and they have more consistent performance in games than the AMD one.They are also faster. They are more expensive though


I picked this CPU because I read that the consoles will be AMD so the PC versions of games will be able to run better with AMD, or something to that effect.
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November 21, 2013 12:50:28 AM

tyson2295 said:
SozBoutUrSize said:
ZionZA said:
SozBoutUrSize said:
tyson2295 said:
get this GPU instead http://www.amazon.co.uk/GeForce-DirectCU-Graphics-Expre...
1 strong card is better than 2 gpus less power draw and more support than dual gpu configs and no microstutter
hec you could even go for the 780 ti which is faster than the titan in games http://www.cclonline.com/product/128803/GV-N78TD5-3GD-B...


The reason I picked the GPU I did was I saw it suggested somewhere and I didn't really question it because it had 6GB. Would one of those cards with 3GB be enough to last at least a year or two?


Well if you running on 1080p or 2560x1440 etc then you will be fine. VRAM on graphics cards only become an issue when you run triple monitor setups in surround view or so. Then 3gb and up is recommended. Also you need to remember that the 7990 is a dual gpu card that works as if its in Crossfire config afaik. So that 6gb is actually more like 3gb because its shared between the two GPU's.


Should I go with one of the already suggested GPU's or is there another you would suggest? right now I don't really have a budget I just wanted to keep it semi reasonable :p  I don't necessarily want the newest most expensive thing but I do want it to last me for the years to come.


the 780 ti would be your best bet if you wanted it to last and later down the road if need be you can get a second and sli them


ZionZA said:
SozBoutUrSize said:
ZionZA said:
For years to come isn't really possible with graphics cards. The GTX 580 was a good card 2 years ago. But today it will struggle to run some games. So when choosing a graphics card I generally look at a lifespan of MAX two years to run games maxed/semi maxed out. The 780 or 780 ti will last you another year or two. Maybe three. Future proofing a gaming PC isn't something thats really possible. Unless you throw quite a lot of money at it. And Then I mean dual to triple SLI/Crossfire setups etc etc. But even that would be a waste as you could just save that money to upgrade the graphics card in the future when needed.

So with he cards suggested I would honestly suggest you go for one of those if you were really considering the 7990. Maybe you could even get another one in a few months. But then you would need a 900w PSU or so.


I guess upgrading graphics cards every year wouldn't be the end of the world, but would the rest of the computer be fine without upgrades for a longer period of time than the graphics card? I have never been someone who is very picky about how good the graphics are. I'm fine running on medium or so as long as the game play is still smooth enough that it doesn't get frustrating.


I know some people who like AMD might not agree with me here but if you want the base system (CPU, Motherboard etc) to be fine for the next few years then I would suggest you look at getting an Intel i5 4670k or i7 4770k or non K versions. They will last you longer than the AMD one in my opinion and they have more consistent performance in games than the AMD one.They are also faster. They are more expensive though


I picked this CPU because I read that the consoles will be AMD so the PC versions of games will be able to run better with AMD, or something to that effect.
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November 21, 2013 1:13:08 AM

The way consoles work compared to desktops isn't exactly the same. You will still get overall better performance from the Intel CPU's on the desktop. You need to remember that games ported to the console or made for the console is designed for that specific hardware which is controlled by the OS for that console. That OS is optimized for that hardware. With desktops the Operating system is not optimized for one specific CPU type etc but instead for various CPU's etc. This is also why you get drivers etc for hardware and things like OpenGL and DirectX. On the desktop they have to allow the game to run on various different systems etc. There are very few games that actually show better performance on AMD cpu's (if any for that matter). Benchmarks in general tend to slide towards the Intel CPU's and most of the time by quite a margin as well.
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November 21, 2013 1:35:43 AM

ZionZA said:
The way consoles work compared to desktops isn't exactly the same. You will still get overall better performance from the Intel CPU's on the desktop. You need to remember that games ported to the console or made for the console is designed for that specific hardware which is controlled by the OS for that console. That OS is optimized for that hardware. With desktops the Operating system is not optimized for one specific CPU type etc but instead for various CPU's etc. This is also why you get drivers etc for hardware and things like OpenGL and DirectX. On the desktop they have to allow the game to run on various different systems etc. There are very few games that actually show better performance on AMD cpu's (if any for that matter). Benchmarks in general tend to slide towards the Intel CPU's and most of the time by quite a margin as well.


If I was going to built an Intel PC what would I need to change? or what should I go with? This is what the AMD build is now: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/25Vhv.

P.S. SORRY for the spam. my computer wasn't loading so I kind of spammed the answer button
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November 21, 2013 1:48:30 AM

i7 CPU

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CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£227.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£157.96 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (£119.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£46.45 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (£407.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£89.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£86.30 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Asus VS247H-P 23.6" Monitor (£141.89 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1302.53
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OR i5 CPU

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£157.96 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (£119.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£46.45 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (£407.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£89.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£86.30 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Asus VS247H-P 23.6" Monitor (£141.89 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1242.53
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Now the difference between the i5 and i7 in regards to gaming isn't that big. Hardly any difference at all in most games. Games like Crysis 3 that actually has the ability to utilize hyperthreading will be faster on the i7 than on the i5. Thats what the key difference is between the two CPU's. The i7 has hyperthreading and the i5 doesn't.

I chose the Hero motherboard due to price. You can still get a Formula board which is a bit more expensive or even go for a cheaper board with the Gene. (in regards to the Asus boards) I guess it really comes down to what you want and need.

The only questions really left to answer in regards to price and maybe saving a few pounds here and there is:

Are you ever going to overclock? If not Then you can go for the non K versions of the CPU's I suggested.
Are you ever going to go SLI with another graphics card? If not then you can get a cheaper lower watt PSU. If yes though then I would suggest you look at a higher Watt PSU
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November 21, 2013 2:19:25 AM

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i7 CPU

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CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£227.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£157.96 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (£119.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£46.45 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (£407.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£89.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£86.30 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Asus VS247H-P 23.6" Monitor (£141.89 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1302.53
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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OR i5 CPU

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£157.96 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (£119.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£46.45 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (£407.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£89.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£86.30 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Asus VS247H-P 23.6" Monitor (£141.89 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1242.53
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-21 09:47 GMT+0000)


Now the difference between the i5 and i7 in regards to gaming isn't that big. Hardly any difference at all in most games. Games like Crysis 3 that actually has the ability to utilize hyperthreading will be faster on the i7 than on the i5. Thats what the key difference is between the two CPU's. The i7 has hyperthreading and the i5 doesn't.

I chose the Hero motherboard due to price. You can still get a Formula board which is a bit more expensive or even go for a cheaper board with the Gene. (in regards to the Asus boards) I guess it really comes down to what you want and need.

The only questions really left to answer in regards to price and maybe saving a few pounds here and there is:

Are you ever going to overclock? If not Then you can go for the non K versions of the CPU's I suggested.
Are you ever going to go SLI with another graphics card? If not then you can get a cheaper lower watt PSU. If yes though then I would suggest you look at a higher Watt PSU


I have never overclocked before and I don't think I will be doing it in the near future. I don't plan on doing SLI either. I was also surprised how close all the prices are. Are there any upgrade suggestions you could make that would keep the grand total under about $3,000usd (1,875pounds)
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November 21, 2013 2:25:26 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£227.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£157.96 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (£119.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£127.75 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£114.96 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card (£559.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£89.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£86.30 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Asus VE278H 27.0" Monitor (£220.94 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1729.84
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Larger 27" Monitor
SSD Hard drive for the Operating System
and the 780 ti instead of the 780

I take it you have a dvd writer, mouse and keyboard?
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November 21, 2013 2:31:14 AM

ZionZA said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£227.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£157.96 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (£119.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£127.75 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£114.96 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card (£559.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£89.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£86.30 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Asus VE278H 27.0" Monitor (£220.94 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1729.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Larger 27" Monitor
SSD Hard drive for the Operating System
and the 780 ti instead of the 780

I take it you have a dvd writer, mouse and keyboard?


Yes I do. I plan on getting a new keyboard (probably a razer black widow) before building this PC so I'm not including it in my 3,000usd(1,875pounds) budget. I can still go over it but I would like it keep it around there at highest.
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November 21, 2013 2:33:38 AM

Well the system I proposed is fast and will run games like a dream for some time to come. Only other way of improving performance would largely be to add another Graphics card. But that would be completely overkill for single monitor gaming
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November 21, 2013 2:40:33 AM

ZionZA said:
Well the system I proposed is fast and will run games like a dream for some time to come. Only other way of improving performance would largely be to add another Graphics card. But that would be completely overkill for single monitor gaming


What about a headset? I have a logitech G930 now. Also I want to use my current monitor in addition to the one in the build. I would use one screen for the game and the other for web searches music skype etc. would I need another graphics card for that?
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November 21, 2013 2:51:27 AM

No. You can connect up to 3 or 4 monitors to one GTX 780 card. Headset would be a personal choice. I know that the Roccat Kave has received very high ratings and good reviews but the issue with that Headset is that you have to disconnect your Surround sound system(if you have one) at the back and connect the headset then. Its a 5.1 surround sound headset. http://www.roccat.org/Support/Gaming-Sound/ROCCAT-Kave-...
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November 21, 2013 2:56:28 AM

Oh and btw. That headset you have is quite nice. Why change it?
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November 21, 2013 4:01:04 AM

ZionZA said:
Oh and btw. That headset you have is quite nice. Why change it?


idk. honestly i guess i was looking for something to spend money on. :p  i should probably save it or put it into my car
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November 21, 2013 4:02:33 AM

lol ok
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