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intel i5 4570k vs fx 8350 with gaming

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November 22, 2013 11:09:43 AM

I was wondering what processor would give me the best Frames per second in the future while using crossfire.
And what motherboard could be recommend with these.(notice that fx 8350 got 8 cores , i5 got 4cores , will that matter? because future games prefer mor cores)

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November 22, 2013 11:15:41 AM

Honestly, by the time games can utilize all those cores, you'll be looking to upgrade your computer. But for now, I'd say the i5 4670K is better at gaming than the FX-8350. The FX-8350 has more cores, but each individual core is weaker.

But that's not to discount the FX-8350. That is a great CPU, great for multitasking, great for multi-threaded apps, a good gaming CPU, and also a good overclocking chip. It falls short of the i5 when it comes to pure gaming category.
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November 22, 2013 11:19:05 AM

ksham said:
Honestly, by the time games can utilize all those cores, you'll be looking to upgrade your computer. But for now, I'd say the i5 4670K is better at gaming than the FX-8350. The FX-8350 has more cores, but each individual core is weaker.

But that's not to discount the FX-8350. That is a great CPU, great for multitasking, great for multi-threaded apps, a good gaming CPU, and also a good overclocking chip. It falls short of the i5 when it comes to pure gaming category.



+1, this is exactly right. Honestly even things that do use more cores (such as BF4) still get slightly higher frames on the 4670k. I'm not sure it can be optimized differently to make it work better on the 8350. $ per FPS might be a tad better with the 8350(even better with Oced 8320) however.

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November 22, 2013 11:19:57 AM

ksham said:
Honestly, by the time games can utilize all those cores, you'll be looking to upgrade your computer. But for now, I'd say the i5 4670K is better at gaming than the FX-8350. The FX-8350 has more cores, but each individual core is weaker.

But that's not to discount the FX-8350. That is a great CPU, great for multitasking, great for multi-threaded apps, a good gaming CPU, and also a good overclocking chip. It falls short of the i5 when it comes to pure gaming category.


I am plannen to overclock the i5 aswell the fx 8350 , and many other forums say i5 is the way to go with crossfire. but still the fx 8350 got a overal better benchmark, so still don't get which one is better
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November 22, 2013 11:20:01 AM

Ksh is right on, +1. Most games today will only utilize 4 cores max many just support 2 cores. None I know of need 8 cores. The Intel has higher performance per core then the AMD so if it's about performance the Intel out performs the AMD core to core. If its about the number of cores and price then the AMD is a good value. Pick what means the most to you. Pick what will make you happy don't have any regrets about your choice.
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November 22, 2013 11:27:24 AM

arian280 said:

I am plannen to overclock the i5 aswell the fx 8350 , and many other forums say i5 is the way to go with crossfire. but still the fx 8350 got a overal better benchmark, so still don't get which one is better

Depends. The i5's stock core speed is less than that of the FX-8350's stock core speed. I'm sure if you were to compare them on equal grounds, the i5 will stand out more clearly. :)  Don't misread that. I am not saying the core speed is comparable across chipsets.

That said, most games are not heavily multi-threaded so the FX-8350 will fall flat there. But games like BF4 may make better use of the multi-threading capability of the FX-8350 better.
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November 22, 2013 11:51:30 AM

The i5 has better single threaded performance and is the better cpu in general.
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November 22, 2013 11:56:11 AM

Mmm, actually I am planning to play battlefield 4, so because that game utilizes more than 6 cores , the fx 8350 overclocked will get better performance.
Another thing is Im planning to crossfire , so is there a difference in these cpu's while crossfire

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November 22, 2013 12:00:09 PM

Mmm, actually I am planning to play battlefield 4, so because that game utilizes more than 6 cores , the fx 8350 overclocked will get better performance.



Not true, well the more cores part is, but it doesn't outperform the I5
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November 22, 2013 12:02:17 PM

Supahos said:
Mmm, actually I am planning to play battlefield 4, so because that game utilizes more than 6 cores , the fx 8350 overclocked will get better performance.



Not true, well the more cores part is, but it doesn't outperform the I5


Okay I didn't know that, u maybe now a good mainboard for overclocking and crossfire? around 150euro
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November 22, 2013 12:31:24 PM

Motherboard for the i5 or FX-8350? It's important because those two CPUs run on different sockets.
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November 22, 2013 1:05:24 PM

The difference between AMD and intel for gaming.
Firstly, you need to decide what your priorities are, and what you will use the PC for.
Things such as: light gaming, heavy gaming, basic work (e.g. MS Office), heavy work (e.g. video editing, 3d modeling).
For the most part in current games the biggest difference will be made by the selection of the GPU. Get a great GPU + worse CPU rather than worse GPU + great CPU.

The AMD FX CPU's have many cores, which are weaker.
intel i5's have less cores, which are stronger.

The intel's consequently have better performance per core. In older games, the intels perform much better as those games are optimised for good performance with only a few cores (single-threading).
In newer games, the AMD FX's really shine due to the introduction of games using more cores (multi-threading).

The difference comes in depending on what you want to use the PC for. If you're on a tight budget, save some money and go with the AMD and spend the extra money on a better GPU that will give you better performance than any CPU could.

i5: Good for older games (single-threaded), Good for newer games (multi-threaded), Good for general work, great all-round CPU and probably the best around for current games (may change in future, see here: http://www.corsair.com/blog/ps4-xbone-pcgaming/ ).
AMD: Slightly worse for older games (single-threaded), Great for newer games (multi-threaded e.g. BF4, Crysis 3), Good for light/heavy work, extra cores are great for 3d modeling and video editing or rendering, great CPU whilst costing much less than the intel. Even though it's worse in older games it will run them perfectly well and smoothly.

Regardless, both will perform well.
For an i5, I would recommend an i5 3570k or a 4670k. Why? They are king for gaming performance at the moment and since they are the k version they are unlocked and can be overclocked in future for a performance boost.
For an AMD, I would recommend a FX 6300/8320/8350 [Do NOT go with a bulldozer CPU, only piledriver. List here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piledriver_(microarchitecture) <-- That should all be one link, not sure why it splits.]. Why? Great multi-threaded performance for newer games and heavy work, are just fine in older games (not overkill, can deliver smooth frame rates maxed with a good GPU), and are great for productivity with a tame pricetag.

Some non-synthetic benchmarks for AMD FX 83xx vs i5/i7:
Gaming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4et7kDGSRfc
Gaming and Streaming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE

In conclusion, budget gaming/work: AMD. Not on a budget gaming/work: i5. The i5 currently delivers better performance but don't get the impression that the AMD is lagging behind. They are great for gaming and work with a really great pricetag, just not currently up there with intel. In newer games though such as BF4 the AMD's have caught up in performance and in some cases deliver better performance than the intel's for much less money. You will get great, smooth FPS with either.
Either solution will game just fine with a nice GPU, focus mainly on that.

As for nextgen, it is difficult to speculate. Next gen games may/may not be optimised for multicore cpu's such as the FX so they can get more performance. Games like Watch Dogs and BF4 are highly multithreaded but that does not necessarily speak true of all games. However, take a look at this: http://www.corsair.com/blog/ps4-xbone-pcgaming/

The i5 has 4 beefy cores and the FX has 8 slightly weaker cores (please no-one start the physical/not argument). In single threaded games the i5 therefore has the advantage as they use less cores. In multithreaded games the FX catches up and in some instances performs better. In other multi-threaded apps such as those used for video editing or 3d modeling the FX is ahead. The i7's ivy/haswell would be ahead or on par with that however, but for much more cost.

Due to the extra cores available the FX has the ability to record/stream with less FPS loss (here are some links you should check out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4et7kDGSRfc

Anyway, as I said it's pointless and relatively difficult to speculate about what the future will hold. Get what you need for right now and then upgrade in future when you need more power, or overclock! :)  Both CPU's will perform very well and games are more dependent on having a good GPU anyway.

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TL;DR - both are great for gaming, focus more on the GPU.

If you were to go AMD I'd get a FX 6300/8320 if it gets you a better GPU or another component that will benefit performance more than any CPU could. They perform great. Otherwise go with that i5, it's a beast.
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November 22, 2013 5:27:47 PM

Perhaps the following benchmarks can help you decide. The 2012 FX-8350 is basically pretty comparable to the 2008 Core i7-920. The single exception would be Crysis 3. However, looking at more benchmark results (link provided below) will show that they are basically equal.

http://www.techspot.com/guides/gaming/

While the test rigs used for the benchmarks only uses a single powerful card, the overall picture shows that Ivy Bridge and Haswell Core i5 CPUs provide better performance than the FX-8350.

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http://www.techspot.com/review/712-arma-3-benchmarks/pa...



http://www.techspot.com/review/670-metro-last-light-per...



http://www.techspot.com/review/642-crysis-3-performance...



http://www.techspot.com/review/608-hitman-absolution-pe...

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