Changed PSU and voltage still reading low.

Atlquotl

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Okay so last night I was playing Final Fantasy XIV and my computer randomly reset. I thought it was my Antivirus resetting my machine (which it occasionally does if I don't catch the reboot message in time) and didn't think anything of it. When it did it again fifteen minutes later I got suspicious. So I ran CPUID and got readings on the -12v rail of anything from -9 to -5. Figured even if it was off by 20% those readings are still psychotic.

So today I went and replaced my 2 year old cooler master 700w PSU with a Thermaltake 750w PSU. Nice, Pretty...except I'm still having the same issues.

Still reads low, still get random reboots under load (Prime 95 doesn't pull enough power but as soon as I ramp up any kind of heavy duty video testing it restarts)

My build...
Thermaltake Smart M 750 PSU
AMD athalon 8120 With a coolermaster Seidon 240M (Minor overclock, was going to put it through it's paces eventually but with the issues I've been having I haven't gotten around to that yet) Stable at 4ghz (or has been for a few months)

Gigabyte 990FXA UD3 board
16gb OCZ Sniper 1866 memory
MSI Nvidia 780 OC
3x seagate HDD's of varying sizes and speeds (1x 4tb 5400rpms, 1x 500gb 5400 RPM, 1x 1tb 7200 RPM)
1x Pioneer Blu-Ray Burner.

My suspicions....Either the motherboard or the Graphics board.

GPU
Prior Issues.
The graphics board is the newest piece in the machine replacing a GTX 560. It's had issues initializing the monitor until recently when I updated to the latest beta drivers. It would run on boot just fine but it wouldn't re-start the monitor after sleep.

I've also had issues with the fans not updating their speed even when the GPU ramped up to higher power until I forced fan speed update in each period in the MSI Afterburner utility

Motherboard

Prior Issues.
At one point the board would spike to, and read 140degC. It would only do this for a second or two and then drop back down to the normal operating range (this was the northbridge) I eventually removed the stock thermal tape and replaced it with arctic 5 silver, this solved that particular issue and it went away (the thermal tape looked more like an insulator than a heat conductor)

Second and more recently I had an issue where on bootup the bios had an initialization error and had to be restored from the backup bios. This caused me to have to re-flash the bios.

Third, on the initial bios that came with the board it was rated to run my (1.35v) chip at 1.45 v which I had to manually adjust down. Then after updating the bios it suddenly undervolted because I had it set to -.1v

The motherboard has been an annoyance to me, but I'm still not ruling out the GPU or other possibilities as the primary issue as it does seem to reset under a graphical load and not a CPU load, as I said before Prim95 doesn't cause resets, at least not within the first 5 minutes, but running the MSI graphics stress tests do.

Any suggestions as to how to test this without purchasing another board and/or GPU would be highly appreciated.
 
Solution
Just re-read your post, and you said MINUS 12V rail. That shouldn't really matter; it's barely ever used (pretty much just serial ports IIRC). It's the +12V that matters.

GPU temp, not CPU. The fact that it's not crashing when you run P95 means it's not a CPU temp issue.

It could be both PSUs, though unlikely. Statistics does strange things sometimes, and neither brand is particularly well regarded.

Atlquotl

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I actually do, and plan on checking the readings on both PSU's but something tells me that it's not *both* PSU's.

If the readings on CPU ID are to be believed, by current temps are low twenties, and run to about 45c under load on my CPU (We haven't turned on the heat in the house yet so the room is probably around 50F before I turn on the pc. I kinda doubt it's a temperature issue, especially considering I'm using a high end closed loop water cooler (the seidon 240)
 
Just re-read your post, and you said MINUS 12V rail. That shouldn't really matter; it's barely ever used (pretty much just serial ports IIRC). It's the +12V that matters.

GPU temp, not CPU. The fact that it's not crashing when you run P95 means it's not a CPU temp issue.

It could be both PSUs, though unlikely. Statistics does strange things sometimes, and neither brand is particularly well regarded.
 
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Atlquotl

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Gpu barely hits 60 when it resets...I may have found it. I've been playing around with my BIOS and reset nearly everything to the factory defaults and I'm having no issues at all now.

I'm also getting better readings on my CPUID all the way around as far as voltage is concerned so I'm thinking I may have tweaked something that caused some kind of under/over voltage issue when I had to flash my bios when my board went wonky on me.

I hate it when weird stupid little things cause such big issues.