2gb msi 770 lightning sli max bf4? 1440p

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Hello. I have a msi gtx 770 lightning And I'm thinking about getting a second one on black Friday/cyber monday

If I sli the 2 770s 2gb will I be able to max bf4 on a 1440p monitor.

But also, if I decided to go for the second 770 I have to upgrade my psu. 750w atm

Would it be a better idea to just get a r9 290x/r9 290?
 
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You and many other people claim this, but most people I have spoken to made this claim based on numbers and no first hand experience. I have a 1440p monitor. I have a 2gb 770. I max out everything, occasionally turning off MSAA (not really needed at 1440p), and games are playable. Hell, those FPS numbers don't mean anything, and that is an easily proven fact. The only reason you know any FPS numbers is because you have a program displaying them to you. Turn that off and you won't even be able to tell the difference unless you are dropping below 30fps. I have 0 lag on BF4 online on ultra. I just beat Metro LL with all settings...

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if you can sell the lighting 770 at good price or just put it in another pc with weak gpu then just go for a r9 290/x when the custom versions are out.
else just go sli and sell the psu and go for a 800w minimum one.
yet your 750w psu should be able to handle 2x 770 if is 80+ bronze or higher.
 

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I would still recommend a r9 290 or 290x more than sli.. believe me sli is useful only when you have more than 1 monitor.
it should still give you better fps but will sometimes annoy you with stutter lag and high kw/h drain.

but if you can't sell the 770 at almost same price you bought it then sli is still the better option
 

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You don't even need to SLI. I just got my 27Q monitor (loving it) and am playing bf4 maxed out. I have a single 770 (2gb) at stock speeds, and an i5-2500k running at 4ghz. I have not had any lag whatsoever.

The only setting I can't mess with is the rez scale. If I bump it to 125% I start to notice lag. I will consider OC'ing my card and dropping AA to see if I can increase this setting. But a single 770 is fine for 1440p, and you can still max out games.

I'm not sure why ppl are claiming different on a lot of forums.
 

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People say you dont need sli at 1440P LOL yea thats if you wanna cut down settings to game at 60fps

Fact is bro go for the 2nd gtx 770 your pretty much getting higher then 2 680s in performance and at 1440p res the second gpu comes in handy exp for battlefield 4

It would NOT make sense to get a amd card thats going to be lower performance when you already own a gtx 770 and crossfire is broken so i wouldnt even recommend it..I mean it works but i think you will be more impressed with nvidia/sli

As far as your psu it would work but your cutting it close..You need atleast 850w i mean you cutting it close at 750w exp if your overclocking or dont have alot of head room

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
 

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how about you prove your theory
it makes no sense actually
a r9 290x is not a weak card first and dual card option will help only on more monitors.
I am not saying sli is bad option, sli is for the best if you can't sell your 770 at huge price.
but 2x gtx 770 won't bring you more performance than a r9 290x (not in real life not will you realize it with your human eyes)
determin did you even check the specs of r9 290x or see it run yourself? ................
both options will be a nice upgrade so go for which comes as the cheapest !

 

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Keywords "he already owns a 770" maybe you missed the point

It makes no sense if you already own a sick gpu to get a r9 290x when you can go sli and be done with it. I can vouch 2 770s in sli at 1440p is WAY more then enough and i did have experience with those 2 gpus as well.

He could get a r9 290x but i dont think its a wise decision now if he didnt own a gpu then yea i would say pick between the 2
 

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I am not saying sli is bad option, sli is for the best if you can't sell your 770 at huge price.
he can sell the gtx 770 you know? ( if he can't get a good price (maybe he knows people who want to buy that you know?) then SLI IS FOR THE BEST !)
or he could use the 770 on other pc / or make a new one for tv (just an idea)
anyway r9 290x if he can sell 770 at nice price or
2x sli 770 (as the best option)
his choice / I am only just suggesting
and 2x 770 won't offer you better performance than a r9 290 on a single monitor at 1440p (maybe on higher resolution though I doubt it)
 

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This is terribly wrong... So were all of the other posts about SLI only benefiting multiple monitor setups. I use 2 GTX 770s to game at 1080p at 120hz and need every bit of both cards to maintain high framerates (75-110) when playing BF4 multiplayer. Please, please, please - if you have no idea what you're talking about, don't be giving other people advice.

That being said, hope you went with the second 770 - best option IMO.
 

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first give a proof when you tell someone he has no clue what he talks about. in mostly games 2x 770 won't offer better performance than a r9 290 or gtx 780. having a clue is not really having any influence on real performance or what the eye can see. his option was the second 770 cause he already has one. I never said 2 770 are same as 1 on 1 monitor. what comes after would be a rip off (sli 780 or 780 ti). here is not about having a clue is about some who don't even know to read... and owning 2 770 ain't making you know how they perform to 1 780 or 290 in comparison does it. and I didn't mention all games. before you launch the attack reread what you missed.. btw the bits won't double cause you have sli O.O same as vram story
 

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2x 770s blows away a single 780 and 290 - in every game tested. Take a look at the chart bud. I used to have a single 780 and sold it to grab a couple 770s on sale. Performance is night and day different. Getting about 40 more FPS in BF4. Again, please stop giving people advice if you have no idea what you are talking about.

http://www.legitreviews.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-reviewed-in-2-way-sli-and-nvidia-surround_2210/3
 

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first you really need to learn to read and stop insulting when as I see your clue is worser than mine. I didn't mention all games nor bf cause I never played those.
we take for example games like crysis, skyrim, gothic, grid and mmorpgs... a gtx 780 which offers almost same performance as r9 290 will manage a minimum of 60 fps at 1080 p ultra even max(except some worser cases). while sli will offer few more fps (20-28 maximum) which your eyes can't tell apart just idiots who look at numbers you forget the high kw drain and micro stuttering and heating problems a damn sli even offers. if he could sell at damn high price the 770 that's why I mentioned up there he could get 780 which he could sli in future when needed rather than getting stuck with 2 upgraded 680 (770) which will drop in price. but that only if he could sell it. given the fact that well I never seen a 780 drop under 60 fps the higher fps over 60 at that resolution on 1 monitor won't change the pixels clarity or colour any more for you, so you won't see even a slight difference. don't beg me please. if the op replies that my advice is crap then I will think again but not just cause some nobody tells me. personally sli without water cooling can be a horror and having 100 non sense fps at unplayable gameplay with stutter and lag pls. and this market strategy.. I've never seen the 770 sli manage over 95 fps but well there may be cases and some games where sli can crush a single card I never said that all times sli is crap. if more people disagree I will make a video with both setups so I don't get insults like bread (don't need them you know ;D) and wolf even now you didn't learn to read I even mentioned there not all games ... after all I only shared my experience. if he mentioned the games I wouldn't bother complaining now with some freak who thinks atacking works better without thinking.
 

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Sayken, you are an uneducated troll and your advice was exactly that, crap... Did you even click on the link I provided? Guess not - because every game tested was above 95 fps with the 770 SLI setup. I can read fine - you need to learn how to listen.
 

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your provided link was about a few games favoring sli option not all of them in the world.
nop you didn't read at all whatsoever.
I am a troll? thank you think I care about your stupid personal affair?
one thing:
http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=1824&gid2=1767&compare=geforce-gtx-770-sli-vs-geforce-gtx-780-evga-sc-w-acx-edition
11 procent technicaly difference which won't amount to a difference higher than 5 procent in real time performance (only in games with sli favouring)
sli 780 is worser than sli 770?is this trol?
google:
" The GTX 770 was released less than a year after the GTX 780, and so they are likely to have similar driver support for optimizing performance when running the latest games.
Pair of gtx 770 and gtx 780 both exhibit very powerful performance, so it probably isn't worth upgrading from one to the other, as both are capable of running even the most demanding games at the highest settings."
google more and you will find that sli won't bring you better vram or bit. is not a+b=c so please.
there are videos as well on youtube where gtx 780 surpasses the 770 pair and viceversa.
it's all about the game.
and not all benchmarks will give you 100 procent reality.
btw did you even read final thoughts and conclusion from your own link? =)))
and gtx 780 costs 90€ more here so going for sli later is not a bad option either.
gtx 770 sli is a good option too.
but you need more kw drain, good cooling etc for sli.
if you want to believe I am only writting crap so be it, go start your fights somewhere else this forum is for helping.
if you even checked the date is logical op already made his choice with christmas offers and lower prices.
whatsoever look complain what you want you are just wasting my time so I am done with you.
and make own thread or pm don't make op post into your circus.
no one forced you to trust what you don't want to.
 

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no we both are worse and even I am an idiot for respondong in such manner. you just need to point your experience and idea not launch an atack with insults the moment you don't like a answer on a post.
anyways happy new year and best of luck.
 

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You and many other people claim this, but most people I have spoken to made this claim based on numbers and no first hand experience. I have a 1440p monitor. I have a 2gb 770. I max out everything, occasionally turning off MSAA (not really needed at 1440p), and games are playable. Hell, those FPS numbers don't mean anything, and that is an easily proven fact. The only reason you know any FPS numbers is because you have a program displaying them to you. Turn that off and you won't even be able to tell the difference unless you are dropping below 30fps. I have 0 lag on BF4 online on ultra. I just beat Metro LL with all settings maxed (kept MSAA disabled because I couldn't see a difference with it on). There were only 2 instances in the game where there was any noticeable lag, and each instance lasted for less than 5 seconds. So no, you don't need to SLI. People want to because they think fps means something. FPS has only as much worth as you give it.
 
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Lol ok... Games feel choppy to me under 60fps. I definitely notice a difference as do most people who game on 120hz monitors. 90-120fps is the sweet spot for me, but everyone is different. I would consider 30fps unplayable, but that's just me...
 

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wolfdog I really wanna see you explain me the difference between 60fps and 100fps cause you really gave me the shock.
I can't for the life of me even understand how some people say waa don't buy that it gives you 80fps get this it gives you 110 and I am like WTF there is no difference after 60 fps for heaven sake 0. the difference lies only in the speed the bitrates, colours and pixels are changing themselves but no human has android eyes to even realize that at all on today monitors (I can say that for 100% for the monitors at prices up to 250€ I have no clue for the rest). the texture of the tree (for example) won't change. you will just see a brighter black but the other colours will remain the same.
is not like you see the image on the gpu. the images are displayed on the monitor. and no fricking monitor alive can make use of the extra performance given on the ratio über 60 fps.
and for the sake of it the nowadays monitors cannot even utilize the maximum power of a gtx 780 ti. they simply can not. sli does force them by sending more power and shock voltage but that ain't meaning you will see crystals shining.
maybe some monitors can but I bet they cost a fortune and are not sold in every shop.
though you may be right for future proof. who knows they might sell the better monitors at good prices in every shop in the future and the 100fps will be like wow compared to 60. well I myself (maybe only me) would choose to sli new gpus for that future proof not old upgraded ones.
120hz ain't that much anyways.
I would say sli any day 999% as a must if you were to game on a tv with 200hz or more and even 3d lol. lol 400hz that would be scary or gr4 ultraled projection.
well if you can explain that I will eat my words and go buy lotsa fricking books to start reading informations about pcs again lol.
few years ago I was playing on my laptop at like 33fps on low settings and I was damn happy lol. no lag in offline gameplay and barely any on online lolz.
no offence in this but I really am curious how you determine that difference (without looking at numbers from program (+1 sovelin)) cause it kills me. no matter how much time I waste looking at 70fps and 100fps on same monitor I cannot see a damn thing lol.
 

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I am using a 120hz monitor with a i7 4930k gtx 780 oced and a monitor of 60 hz with i5 4670k and crossfire r9 280x.
yes there is a difference between 60 and 120 hz but that up to 60 fps. 60 fps looks lot better on 120hz than 60hz but that's the limit. it won't get any better anymore....
there is no way to tell apart after that anymore. only if the program is defect and shows more fps than exist.
only way is to show the difference on two screenshots taken on exact 120hz same monitor at 60fps and 90fps example but I can't find a link with such proof.
with my knowledge and experiment yes the android tells the difference apart but not my eyes...
have any such link so I know where exactly to look on the monitor to see that difference?