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AMD Vesuvius (R9 290X2)

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November 24, 2013 2:29:52 AM

Approximately when will the new AMD Vesuvius (R9 290X2) be released and what price tag would it come attached with (considering the R9 290X costs ~527€, around 600$). I am wondering wether I should hold off buying a 780Ti for a couple more months because the problem with Nvidia cards is that they have low amounts of VRAM and as we have seen with BF4, the latter is becoming more and more important in gaming so the N. cards are not completely future proof.

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November 24, 2013 2:45:15 AM

1) No solid info on Vesuvius yet.

2) 780Ti has 3GB of RAM which is plenty for quite a while.

3) Vesuvius may or may not have more than a 3GB frame buffer (remember to HALVE whatever is reported. For example, the 4GB GTX690 is still 2GB per GPU and VRAM is cloned so that's still just 2GB).

4) Vesuvius likely overpriced. TWO separate cards are probably a much better idea, especially considering performance can easily be throttled by temperature so cooling two GPU's may be a huge issue.

5) 780Ti may have 4GB models.

6) SLI is still superior to Crossfire. Why not get a 2x (GTX770 4GB) setup if you're that concerned with VRAM and don't mind dual-GPU?

7) I still recommend the EVGA GTX780Ti with ACX cooling when available.
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November 24, 2013 2:45:18 AM

No announcement of a release date or price so far. Custom coolers for the single R9 290 hasn't even come out yet...
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November 24, 2013 2:58:30 AM

I was looking to buy a dual-GPU card. The 690 and 7990 seem to be outdated, while the ARES 760 seems overpriced.
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November 26, 2013 3:10:41 PM

TheArtOfWar said:
I was looking to buy a dual-GPU card. The 690 and 7990 seem to be outdated, while the ARES 760 seems overpriced.


There are no good dual-GPU cards that I'm aware of. Crossfire still has too many issues, you want at least 2GB per GPU, and prices tend to be too high compared to two cards that provide similar performance.

There's usually no good reason to get a dual-GPU card unless you simply don't have the PCIe slots to support two cards.
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November 26, 2013 10:33:18 PM

photonboy said:
TheArtOfWar said:
I was looking to buy a dual-GPU card. The 690 and 7990 seem to be outdated, while the ARES 760 seems overpriced.


There are no good dual-GPU cards that I'm aware of. Crossfire still has too many issues, you want at least 2GB per GPU, and prices tend to be too high compared to two cards that provide similar performance.

There's usually no good reason to get a dual-GPU card unless you simply don't have the PCIe slots to support two cards.


For the moment there are no good dual GPU cards but say the GTX 790 or the AMD Vesuvius came out and Nvidia/AMD managed to fix micro-stuttering with better drivers?

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November 27, 2013 6:39:00 AM

TheArtOfWar said:
photonboy said:
TheArtOfWar said:
I was looking to buy a dual-GPU card. The 690 and 7990 seem to be outdated, while the ARES 760 seems overpriced.


There are no good dual-GPU cards that I'm aware of. Crossfire still has too many issues, you want at least 2GB per GPU, and prices tend to be too high compared to two cards that provide similar performance.

There's usually no good reason to get a dual-GPU card unless you simply don't have the PCIe slots to support two cards.


For the moment there are no good dual GPU cards but say the GTX 790 or the AMD Vesuvius came out and Nvidia/AMD managed to fix micro-stuttering with better drivers?



Personally, a dual-GPU card would have to meet ALL the following for me to be interested:

1) VALUE is identical or better to a two card setup.
2) NOISE is identical or better to a two card setup.
3) Minimal stutter or other SLI/Crossfire issues.
4) At least 3GB Video RAM per GPU (i.e. 6GB card)

The problem is this likely will NEVER happen because you're trying to pack the performance of two cards in the space of one. You might match #1, #3 and #4 but NOISE will always be greater compared to two separate cards with good cooling solutions.

As for the 780Ti, one of the EVGA models with ACX cooling would be the card I'd buy today once available. It has 3GB which is plenty though I would expect to see 4GB versions. You aren't going to need more than 3GB for years unless you have a high-res triple-monitor setup but if a 4GB versions costs only a little more I'd get that. So, THIS is what I'd buy if available:

EVGA 780Ti 4GB with ACX cooler (900MHz or greater base clock)

Even BF4 runs nicely with only 2GB on Ultra. It can buffer a little more if it has 3GB but it won't make that much real-world difference as the data sits in System RAM as well and gets swapped fairly quickly when needed which isn't that often.
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December 27, 2013 6:58:29 AM

photonboy said:

6) SLI is still superior to Crossfire. Why not get a 2x (GTX770 4GB) setup if you're that concerned with VRAM and don't mind dual-GPU?


why are you claiming that SLI is superior to Crossfire? it is just different branding of the same technology, the only differences is the bridges they use and there are more AMD cards that are compatible with each other than nVidia (a HD 7970 can crossfire with a HD7950, a HD7990, a r9 280 or a r9 280x. but a GTX 680 will only SLI with another GTX680 or a GTX770. but that has a lot to do with rebranding and reuse of chips to cut down on manufacturing costs and make cards cheaper) two GTX 780s in SLI will not be more effective than two R9 290x in crossfire (note: i'm writing "effective" and not "better" since opinions differ on what cards are the best)
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