Major upgrade for approx £500 - review and advice sought

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Hi all.

Finally getting round to a very long overdue rebuild and need your guidance please. Absolutely everything needs updating eventually but I can't afford to do that right now so the first step is to bring the core of the machine up to date now and then I can improve further in a few months.

Purpose of system: Mixture of home/office use, constantly on internet, some gaming and movies. Ideally something I can upgrade in stages going forward but will generally serve well for a good 2/3 years at least.

OS: I'll be upgrading from XP to Win7 or 8 at the same time, but I'll buy separately once I've decided which.

Overclocking: I never have but may give it a go at some point - definitely not yet though so can't rely on buying lower parts and OCing up immediately.

Gaming requirements: For now, good framerates in latest titles at med-high. I will update the monitor soon but don't need anything flashy and I don't necessarily need max settings.

Budget: Approx £500 for now

Priorities for this rebuild: CPU, MoBo, GPU, RAM, SSD

So...I'm planning to recycle the following for now:

Case: Antec Nine Hundred (case is fine but has no USB 3.0 so need to find a solution to that at some point)
PSU: Corsair HX520W (is this good enough for now?)
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 320GB (will replace later but it's not urgent right now)
Monitor: LG Flatron L1710M (stop laughing! Will update fairly soon)

No need to worry about keyboard, mouse or OS for now.

My first draft parts list is here: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/RS78/saved/2UvJ and listed below:

CPU: i5-4670K (see below)
MoBo: GA-Z87X-D3H (am I skimping too much here?)
GPU: MSI GTX660 2GB (or would a XFX Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB at an almost identical price be a better choice?)
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X - 8GB (2x4GB) @1866 (quite a few similarly priced options here so open to any suggestions)
SSD: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB

On the CPU, I know I don't need the 4670K over the 4670 if I'm not really an OCer, but for £3 difference it seems rude not to. For the more substantial saving (considering I'm over-budget), I'd be more interested to hear your thoughts on dropping to a 4430 or something and what that would compromise.

Been a member (read 'lurker') for a while so I know this is the place to get the right feedback. Many thanks in advance.

RS
 
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The 7870XT is by far the better choice. The 660 isn't even as fast as a regular 7870. The XT uses the architecture of he 7950/7970 and is a faster card than a regular 7870 or 7870ghz edition.

Nothing wrong with getting a K series now and overclocking later :). Since you are open to the idea of overclocking later, I heartily recommend the k series over the 4430. With a 4430, you'd be giving up 33-50% more performance of an overclocked 4670k (3.0 ghz vs 4-4.5). You will need an aftermarket cooler for the highest overclocks. The Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO is the standby around here.

520w will support your system just fine.

1866 RAM is not needed. If you can get 1600mhz cheaper, get that.

The gigabyte motherboard is solid. I personally...
The 7870XT is by far the better choice. The 660 isn't even as fast as a regular 7870. The XT uses the architecture of he 7950/7970 and is a faster card than a regular 7870 or 7870ghz edition.

Nothing wrong with getting a K series now and overclocking later :). Since you are open to the idea of overclocking later, I heartily recommend the k series over the 4430. With a 4430, you'd be giving up 33-50% more performance of an overclocked 4670k (3.0 ghz vs 4-4.5). You will need an aftermarket cooler for the highest overclocks. The Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO is the standby around here.

520w will support your system just fine.

1866 RAM is not needed. If you can get 1600mhz cheaper, get that.

The gigabyte motherboard is solid. I personally prefer the asrock extreme series (extreme 4), as the voltage regulator has more phases = more stable voltage = higher, more stable overclocks. Asrock makes quality boards, and they're cheaper (in the states at least).
 
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Thanks v much for the quick reply quilciri - much appreciated.

I just found the gpu hierarchy chart and see what you mean - for £3/£4 more the 7870XT now seems a no-brainer so thank you. Any idea of what kind of performance I should expect with that generally on latest FPS titles?

I'll put the cooler on my 'coming next' list then in case I do pluck up the courage (and find the time) to OC soon.

So the CPU/mobo combo seem good (although I'll take a look at the Extreme 4 as well now - it's marginally more here but manageable) and my PSU is fine (which is good news). One further question on this...will I really notice much difference in paying a little more for Haswell or would I be better off saving a few £s by dropping to an IB chip and mobo (even if spending a little more on a better mobo)? I originally decided to spend a little more on Haswell just because it's newer but that's not necessarily better if I'm not likely to make use of it I guess.

On the RAM, there was only about £10 difference but some further reading just now suggests that I won't actually see any benefit by upping the speed. So I could save the £10 (put it towards the cooler for eg) or I could possibly buy some CL7 RAM I've just seen if that would be better - for the same price as the original 1866? Any thoughts?