I have been researching a lot, but I need a bit of help. I am going to get a Radeon 7850 2GB Twin Frozr Edition, but I want a really small case to go with it, and if any other regular parts would go with it. Here is my case(s) I want, but if it doesn't work, any suggestions? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/57077-Linkworld-LC820-01B-I-T-X-Slim-mini-tower-Home-PC-Case-With-65w-Ext-Power-/400546597835?pt=US_Computer_Cases&hash=item5d42700bcb or http://www.ebay.com/itm/Linkworld-LC617-03-Micro-ATX-Slim-mini-Tower-PC-Case-With-400w-Power-Supply-/350709574605?pt=US_Computer_Cases&hash=item51a7eb6bcd)
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A budget would be useful, as would what that budget has to include, and what you want to use it for.
Both of those cases look very questionable, as pretty much anything with a PSU included and no details provided.
If you already have a CPU+motherboard, this will dictate how small a case you can buy. The first you linked is ITX based, the second is mATX based.
Very small cases like the first one linked usually will require a degree of specialised components, as they can't fit standard PSUs and usually only low profile graphics cards.
Both of those cases look very questionable, as pretty much anything with a PSU included and no details provided.
If you already have a CPU+motherboard, this will dictate how small a case you can buy. The first you linked is ITX based, the second is mATX based.
Very small cases like the first one linked usually will require a degree of specialised components, as they can't fit standard PSUs and usually only low profile graphics cards.
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Personally I would go with the Elite 130 now, seems like a nice improvement for minimal extra money, but it really depends on what his other restrictions are, as he didn't really provide much info. If he's already got a full sized ATX board (or an AM3+ CPU) and is wanting to shoehorn it into an ITX case, he'll have problems.
I am going to use old parts off my current PC in my new build. I already have a North Bridge Chipset AMD A75 FCH motherboard, 8GB of GDDR3 RAM, and a 1TB Hard Drive. I have a $300-$350 budget.
All I need is:
FM1 quadcore processor (I think I have already found one for 120 or so.)
Graphics Card (Pretty sure I am going to get the 2GB Twin Frozr 7850.)
Small Computer Case (Need help on that.)
I can't really think of anything else I need, but let me know if there is more.
All I need is:
FM1 quadcore processor (I think I have already found one for 120 or so.)
Graphics Card (Pretty sure I am going to get the 2GB Twin Frozr 7850.)
Small Computer Case (Need help on that.)
I can't really think of anything else I need, but let me know if there is more.
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Bitfenix phenom-m is one of the best small cases around that can fit full sized graphics cards.
Unfortunately i dont know if that is in your budget since they are in the 100-110 range and that is without a psu.
But it is anyway worth a look.
Unfortunately i dont know if that is in your budget since they are in the 100-110 range and that is without a psu.
But it is anyway worth a look.
The cpu might be usable but would bottleneck the 7850 quite a bit not sure about the mobo.
For $350 you can get an mitx board 4-8gb ram and a 7850-7870. If you need the psu then maybe 4gb ram a 7850 and a lower end mitx board which would be fine.
No its not since that mobo is ATX pretty much the biggest size you are looking for Mitx or Matx (which is bigger than mitx but smaller than atx)
with mitx and matx you will need to look at intel rather than AMD since they dont have any FX compatible mobos with those sizes.
Something like the Pentium G2020/G3--- would be good or if you can an i3 4---
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Yeah in general if you want a compact system, Intel is the way to go.
The exception is the FM1/FM2/FM2+ format which is predominantly APUs like the one you have, but can perform quite nicely at a lower budget.
The problem you have with your current motherboard is that without specifics, its near impossible to advise on how to proceed. Mass produced computers are not necessarily designed with transparency and helpfulness in mind, and they can use components that were never on the retail market which further confuses matters.
What we need to know is what your budget has to buy you, and we can start to recommend where to spend it. Theres not a lot of sense in saying a 7850 vs 7870 etc until we really know how much you have to spend in that area. If you are effectively starting from scratch, then that means CPU, motherboard, memory,graphics card and case (assuming you can reuse HDD etc and don't need Windows)
The exception is the FM1/FM2/FM2+ format which is predominantly APUs like the one you have, but can perform quite nicely at a lower budget.
The problem you have with your current motherboard is that without specifics, its near impossible to advise on how to proceed. Mass produced computers are not necessarily designed with transparency and helpfulness in mind, and they can use components that were never on the retail market which further confuses matters.
What we need to know is what your budget has to buy you, and we can start to recommend where to spend it. Theres not a lot of sense in saying a 7850 vs 7870 etc until we really know how much you have to spend in that area. If you are effectively starting from scratch, then that means CPU, motherboard, memory,graphics card and case (assuming you can reuse HDD etc and don't need Windows)
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If, as I suspect, you need all the things I listed, then this is about as good as I can do for $350.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-HD2 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($42.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $350.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-24 16:56 EST-0500)
Its not tiny, but its not huge. You tend to pay a premium for dropping down to ITX. If there are bits you don't need, obviously it can free up money to trade up on the processor.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-HD2 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($42.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $350.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-24 16:56 EST-0500)
Its not tiny, but its not huge. You tend to pay a premium for dropping down to ITX. If there are bits you don't need, obviously it can free up money to trade up on the processor.
Seems good. I am not going to need the ram tho. Also, those prices are with the rebates, I haven't ever ordered through Newegg, how do you get the rebates? (Would thise case work? http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIYPC-MiniQ1-W-White-SECC-MicroATX-Mini-Tower-Computer-Case-/300952428515?pt=US_Computer_Cases&hash=item4612299fe3)
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That case looks very cheap and nasty, I'd stick with a reputable brand, there is a pretty huge selection for under $50.
Are you sure you don't need ram? Not all DDR3 memory is the same. If you are correct, your best bet is probably an i3.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Mwave)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $350.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-24 17:33 EST-0500)
Yeah it's "only" a dual core, but it will outperform a lot of quad cores in games.
As for rebates, someone in the US is better placed to answer that one. As I understand it, you fill out a form, and they send you the money, but obviously you have to stump up the full price at the point of purchase. I wouldn't have any major concerns as it seems common practice across there.
Are you sure you don't need ram? Not all DDR3 memory is the same. If you are correct, your best bet is probably an i3.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Mwave)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $350.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-24 17:33 EST-0500)
Yeah it's "only" a dual core, but it will outperform a lot of quad cores in games.
As for rebates, someone in the US is better placed to answer that one. As I understand it, you fill out a form, and they send you the money, but obviously you have to stump up the full price at the point of purchase. I wouldn't have any major concerns as it seems common practice across there.
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Well I'd check the memory if possible. $50 is a lot to have to shell out if you aren't expecting it. As long as that's not an issue, and you can reuse your HDD (and OS), then you are basically good to go.
If you don't like the Core 1000 case, then there are a few other small towers in that price bracket worth a look.
Silverstone PS08B / PS08W (Comes in white and black)
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=352
Coolermaster N200, Rosewill Line-M are just basic black boxes, but sensible enough.
If you don't like the Core 1000 case, then there are a few other small towers in that price bracket worth a look.
Silverstone PS08B / PS08W (Comes in white and black)
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=352
Coolermaster N200, Rosewill Line-M are just basic black boxes, but sensible enough.
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