For how much time is it safe to play a game with these cpu temps ?
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dazkyl
November 26, 2013 10:40:03 AM
Those temps for a full load like BF4 are about as high as you want to go. The 65 is obviously much better than the 80. What will shorten the life of the CPU is too high of voltages being pushed to get the overclock stable when combined with high temps. If you can keep the temperatures in that range at absolute maximum, you'll be fine, you can run the game until your eyes fall out of your head.
Make sure to keep an eye on the temperatures if the ambient temperature of the computer area goes up with season change, heating system turned on etc etc.
Make sure to keep an eye on the temperatures if the ambient temperature of the computer area goes up with season change, heating system turned on etc etc.
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dazkyl
November 26, 2013 11:17:50 AM
dwatterworth said:
Those temps for a full load like BF4 are about as high as you want to go. The 65 is obviously much better than the 80. What will shorten the life of the CPU is too high of voltages being pushed to get the overclock stable when combined with high temps. If you can keep the temperatures in that range at absolute maximum, you'll be fine, you can run the game until your eyes fall out of your head.Make sure to keep an eye on the temperatures if the ambient temperature of the computer area goes up with season change, heating system turned on etc etc.
So i can play till whenever i want with an average of 69-75 temp and 80temp max ?
Voltage is 1.280v for 4.4ghz.
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dazkyl
November 26, 2013 11:31:10 AM
dwatterworth said:
Yep, your rig should be good to go all day everyday. Those temps are very good for such a high OC on air cooling. Great ! My cache multiplier is on auto. Should i set it to a specific value ? If im not mistaken , when i was setting it the same as my cpu multiplier (44x) , system was getting unstable after an ammount of time.
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dazkyl
November 26, 2013 11:43:20 AM
dwatterworth said:
I would leave the cache settings on auto, it should work best that way with the speed stepping on the processor.Ok then
only thing im worried about is the voltage that i needed to stay stable with this clock speed. I think 1.282v is kinda high.Should i check if i'll stay stable with a bump from 4.4ghz to 4.5ghz with same voltage ?
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I would definitely play with the voltages. That is a bit high. Start out at the current voltage and incrementally step it down until you find the minimum voltage for the system to be stable at the 4.4ghz you have now since you know that the system is stable at the speed, regardless of the current voltage.
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dazkyl
November 26, 2013 11:55:34 AM
dwatterworth said:
I would definitely play with the voltages. That is a bit high. Start out at the current voltage and incrementally step it down until you find the minimum voltage for the system to be stable at the 4.4ghz you have now since you know that the system is stable at the speed, regardless of the current voltage. I already did this and this was the best voltage i can do. Maybe trying changing cpu cache ratio ?
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dazkyl
November 26, 2013 12:32:01 PM
dwatterworth said:
I think try disabling speedstepping and lock your core ratios and retest at lower voltages. I've seen the speedstep cause a lot of instability and slow responsiveness on overclocked systems.I will check if its enabled or on auto and will disable it right away ! So the cache ratio ? Leave it on auto ? Because there was a guide and he stated to put the cache ratio to 35x.
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dazkyl
November 26, 2013 12:58:18 PM
dwatterworth said:
I say try both, those haswell procs are so finicky that it's a lot of trial and error.Managed to oc to 4.5ghz with same voltage of 4.4ghz and cache ratio of 35 and 1.20 cache voltage. As of now , everything is stable.Been playing BF4 for 15minutes without any crash.
Also , the spread spectrum thing was enabled and i now disabled it and it seems stable with it disabled
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dazkyl
November 27, 2013 6:44:22 AM
dazkyl
November 27, 2013 6:52:09 AM
dwatterworth said:
Sounds good. Maybe continue to play around with the voltage and ratio settings to see if you can drop vcore at all, but those are good temps, especially under air for an OC like that.I highly doubt if i can go any lower on the vcore. Maybe try reducing cache voltage for better temps ?
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dazkyl
November 27, 2013 7:03:35 AM
You will get lower temps, but that depends on what size you can put in. I've got a OC 3770k running at 4.1ghz (undervolted slightly) that I use an H90 on. I only have a single fan on that unit acting as an exhaust and I idle around 8c over ambient. Load usually sits around 23c over ambient.
I think the 120mm units are a bit less efficient but they still tie with a huge air cooler like the Noctua NH-D14.
I think your temps are good and don't really require you to upgrade the cooler unless you wanted to try to push for a higher clock.
I think the 120mm units are a bit less efficient but they still tie with a huge air cooler like the Noctua NH-D14.
I think your temps are good and don't really require you to upgrade the cooler unless you wanted to try to push for a higher clock.
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dazkyl
November 27, 2013 7:20:38 AM
dwatterworth said:
You will get lower temps, but that depends on what size you can put in. I've got a OC 3770k running at 4.1ghz (undervolted slightly) that I use an H90 on. I only have a single fan on that unit acting as an exhaust and I idle around 8c over ambient. Load usually sits around 23c over ambient. I think the 120mm units are a bit less efficient but they still tie with a huge air cooler like the Noctua NH-D14.
I think your temps are good and don't really require you to upgrade the cooler unless you wanted to try to push for a higher clock.
I dont think i'll notice any difference in gaming from my current clock speed to a higher one.
My case is cm storm stryker with 1 200mm exhaust fan and 1 140mm rear exhaust fan and 4 120mm intake fans.
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dazkyl
November 27, 2013 7:59:38 AM
dwatterworth said:
I think a CM Glacer 240 would be the one to go with in that case for a closed loop cooler. You probably wouldn't get over 45c-50c at full load.Choose one good cooler to keep my load temps great from these 3 pages please
http://www.simarksupplies.com/Product.aspx/Category/C14...
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The best cooler and one of the better values on that website is this one:
Corsair H110. You will need to swap out the 200mm top fan and use the (2) 140mm fan mounts. I checked to make sure it will fit the h110, and it will. It's a popular choice. The h110 will out-perform and work more quietly than the rest of the coolers on there.
Your CPU will be as close to ambient temperature as possible.
http://www.simarksupplies.com/ShowProduct.aspx/Product/...
Corsair H110. You will need to swap out the 200mm top fan and use the (2) 140mm fan mounts. I checked to make sure it will fit the h110, and it will. It's a popular choice. The h110 will out-perform and work more quietly than the rest of the coolers on there.
Your CPU will be as close to ambient temperature as possible.
http://www.simarksupplies.com/ShowProduct.aspx/Product/...
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dazkyl
November 27, 2013 8:25:00 AM
dwatterworth said:
The best cooler and one of the better values on that website is this one:Corsair H110. You will need to swap out the 200mm top fan and use the (2) 140mm fan mounts. I checked to make sure it will fit the h110, and it will. It's a popular choice. The h110 will out-perform and work more quietly than the rest of the coolers on there.
Your CPU will be as close to ambient temperature as possible.
http://www.simarksupplies.com/ShowProduct.aspx/Product/...
Is it compatible with 1150 sockt ? So i'll remove the top 200mm fan and replace it with these 2 exhaust 140mmfans ? I just bought this fan
haha
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Alternate option is the NZXT Kraken X40.
http://www.simarksupplies.com/ShowProduct.aspx/Product/...
It will match any of the 120mm X 240mm liquid coolers and you can put it as an exhaust on the rear 140mm fan spot. Not quite as good value or performance as the H110 but then you can keep the 200mm fan as well.
Any of the coolers will fit the 1150 socket. 1150 has the same mounting hole dimensions as the 1155.
Either way, you'll see a huge improvement on temperatures and probably sound level too.
http://www.simarksupplies.com/ShowProduct.aspx/Product/...
It will match any of the 120mm X 240mm liquid coolers and you can put it as an exhaust on the rear 140mm fan spot. Not quite as good value or performance as the H110 but then you can keep the 200mm fan as well.
Any of the coolers will fit the 1150 socket. 1150 has the same mounting hole dimensions as the 1155.
Either way, you'll see a huge improvement on temperatures and probably sound level too.
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dazkyl
November 27, 2013 8:35:55 AM
dwatterworth said:
Alternate option is the NZXT Kraken X40. http://www.simarksupplies.com/ShowProduct.aspx/Product/...
It will match any of the 120mm X 240mm liquid coolers and you can put it as an exhaust on the rear 140mm fan spot. Not quite as good value or performance as the H110 but then you can keep the 200mm fan as well.
Any of the coolers will fit the 1150 socket. 1150 has the same mounting hole dimensions as the 1155.
Either way, you'll see a huge improvement on temperatures and probably sound level too.
Cool. For just a more ammount , i will go for the corsair cooler. Only thing im worried about is that my air cooling performance will decrease by removing the top 200mm fan.
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