PC without GPU

Jese10

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I've decided on first buying a PC without a GPU and play games on a strong CPU. In that way I can also see what Mantle is going to do for games. (December) After two months i'll buy a high end GPU and a good monitor, because I don't have the money for it right now. This is what I have right now;

Intel Core i7 4770K Boxed (Intel HD 4600 - Play games as Skyrim and FIFA 14 on it)
Gelid Solutions Tranquillo Rev.2
ASRock B85M-HDS
Crucial Ballistix Tactical BLT2C4G3D1608ET3LX0CEU
Seasonic M12II 520W
Cooler Master Silencio 352
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 ST1000DM003, 1TB

Maybe some of you will think it's not a good idea, this is what I really want so don't come up with fairly cheap game desktops with a good GPU. If you think I can change the parts to make it better or cheaper without losing quality, please help me. I hope to hear something from you soon!

 

enemy1g

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No. Just no.

Your PSU is a great brand, but if you're looking to upgrade to a high end GPU, 520W will not do. Look towards 650W-700W.

I don't even know what the Gelid Solutions is, but I'm assuming it's the CPU cooler, go with a CM Hyper 212 EVO, or a Noctua NH-D14.

I'm not sure how strong the integrated GPU is with a i5-4670k, but if you're just planning on gaming, there is absolutely no need to go with an i7 in th current state.

You're pairing an unlocked CPU with a motherboard meant for locked CPUs. You'll need a Z87 motherboard (recommend an ASUS Maximus VI Hero) if you are planning to stick with an unlocked CPU.

I can't even tell what RAM you're getting either.
 

Jese10

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Thanks for the answers. Anyway, I forgot to mention that my budget for this build is 600 euros. If I would go for the Cooler Master B600, would that be good if I would go for the GTX 770 in the near future?

 

Rammy

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Yeah its a bit of a mess. You want a Z87 motherboard if you want to overclock, and how much you need to spend on it and the cooler depends on how far you want to go with that really. Spending much more than $150 on a motherboard is pretty pointless for most people though.

Playing games on integrated graphics works, to a point, but not really on Intel CPUs. You are probably better off waiting until you have your full budget assembled, to guarantee you have a sensible balance in your system.

You say your money is tight, but an i7 4770K is very expensive, somewhat needlessly so for gaming. Chosing an i5 4670K, 3570K or an FX6300, 8320 or 8350 would free up a lot of money to spend.

PSU is good, CM B600, not so much. As Dirtyferret says, a 520 is plenty for most mid range cards, even if you are overclocking.
 


You are 100% wrong about the PSU comment. 520w is more than enough for ANY single GPU. even a gtx780.

 

someguynamedmatt

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I plan on buying a car in a few months; I'm having them leave out the transmission, since I'd like to see how the newer ones perform... I'll just use it without one until then. It should be fine.

I hope you catch what I'm saying.

Is there any reason you need an i7? It sounds like you plan on using it for gaming; the i7's hyperthreading over the i5 isn't going to help you any, and if you're buying it just because it has a marginally better IGP, you really need to rethink your budgeting techniques. I have an i7-3630QM right now mainly for video editing and high-quality 3d renders that take days on end; Skyrim doesn't even top 20% usage, and that's over two cores.

Wait until you have the money, firstly because things will change in two months, and secondly because graphics-wise, you're going to have the equivalent of a ~$300 system.

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That out of the way, here's a breakdown of your parts list:

CPU: Overkill. Go with an i5 unless you plan on doing a lot of professional/productivity work. You don't need an i7.
GPU: ...
Memory: Crucial is overpriced for what it is. Go to NewEgg, and buy yourself a kit of G.Skill. Don't believe me? Sort ALL the memory NewEgg sells by rating and see for yourself.
PSU: Seasonic is one of the best; I'd stay with them. People will argue wattages to no end, but with a single card, what you have is more than enough.
CPU Cooler: Get a CM Hyper 212+; it's cheap and will work just as well.
Motherboard: Don't buy a B** board; a Z87 would fit your build best. The B85 chipset isn't meant for rigs like this, especially with an unlocked processor like the i7. I wouldn't go out and buy the most expensive thing I could find, either - sorry, enemy1g ;) - but at least find something that's a little bit more proportional to its purpose. You're going for a balanced setup here.
HDD brands are pretty much mix-and-match these days, you should be fine with Seagate; they've never failed me before.

You're going to need an optical drive and a copy of Windows along with that.

Was ninja'd by basically everyone with this post, so sorry if it's a bit out of phase with the rest of the thread, but those are my thoughts anyway... take 'em for what they're worth.
 

Jese10

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Hahaha, okay okay I get the point. But I just want to play games on low settings or not if it isn't possible. But I WANT to get the rest of the components high quality/performance. You are right about the thing that the i7 is almost the same as the i5, but maybe it's a good thing for the future. As you probably noticed, I am not an expert when talking about computers so teach me whenever you can.