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PC Crashes after during gaming and wont start up for at least 10 min after?

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November 26, 2013 4:16:08 PM


thanks for reading :)  i have just spent all my money on parts for my new system with my old gpu 560 ti and an older i5i, tx mobo.
so games run great until 5-20 mins in it will just stop. pressing power button wont work for at least 10 min afterwards.
Temps are fine, cpu maxes at 55C, motherboard gets to 55C, 560 ti gets to 76C
PSU is fine because i had 2 to test both over 500w good brands

I suspect motherboard but need a second opinion before i go ahead and potentially waste money on something i dont need
a b V Motherboard
November 26, 2013 4:28:26 PM

sounds like a bad job on the thermal paste on the CPU. Probably an air pocket that heats up locally, far away from the sensor. Before you buy anything try re-applying the thermal paste. It isn't that hard and would save you money.
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November 26, 2013 4:59:36 PM

americanbrian said:
sounds like a bad job on the thermal paste on the CPU. Probably an air pocket that heats up locally, far away from the sensor. Before you buy anything try re-applying the thermal paste. It isn't that hard and would save you money.


thanks for the suggestion. i have re applied thermal paste a number of times and it continuous to crash. i should have mentioned that
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a b V Motherboard
November 27, 2013 3:00:18 AM

potentially it could also be overheating GDDR on the graphics card. Very few have the MEMIO sensor to check this in software. Does that old i5 have a iGPU? Try a different GPU if you can and see if this solves the crashing... If you can borrow one from a mate that would be free to check. Also if it is the GPU (if it is related to games it usually is to do with the Graphics card) then buying a new mobo won't help. You really should try to isolate the problem before spending money.
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November 27, 2013 3:43:17 AM

americanbrian said:
potentially it could also be overheating GDDR on the graphics card. Very few have the MEMIO sensor to check this in software. Does that old i5 have a iGPU? Try a different GPU if you can and see if this solves the crashing... If you can borrow one from a mate that would be free to check. Also if it is the GPU (if it is related to games it usually is to do with the Graphics card) then buying a new mobo won't help. You really should try to isolate the problem before spending money.

today i tested another gpu and the system crashed in the same way
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a b V Motherboard
November 27, 2013 7:54:30 AM

so you have tested the PSU, CPU (temps anyway), GPU replaced etc.

Please tell me if you are OCing (your ram anyway) Try a quick memtest but I think it still must be something to do with the Graphics if this is only reproduce-able when playing games.

If you have a second PCI-E slot on your MOBO I would test the other port. Otherwise I think it can really only be the MOBO (maybe the voltage regulators are running hot?)
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November 27, 2013 11:26:50 AM

americanbrian said:
so you have tested the PSU, CPU (temps anyway), GPU replaced etc.

Please tell me if you are OCing (your ram anyway) Try a quick memtest but I think it still must be something to do with the Graphics if this is only reproduce-able when playing games.

If you have a second PCI-E slot on your MOBO I would test the other port. Otherwise I think it can really only be the MOBO (maybe the voltage regulators are running hot?)

no overclocking and mem is brand new but i shall test it. i havent used the pc for anything other that games atm so i dont know if it crashes doing otherthings.
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November 27, 2013 11:29:32 AM

americanbrian said:
so you have tested the PSU, CPU (temps anyway), GPU replaced etc.

Please tell me if you are OCing (your ram anyway) Try a quick memtest but I think it still must be something to do with the Graphics if this is only reproduce-able when playing games.

If you have a second PCI-E slot on your MOBO I would test the other port. Otherwise I think it can really only be the MOBO (maybe the voltage regulators are running hot?)

i may even try reinstalling windows. when i did install it the mobo was set to ide mode and it bluescreens on start up if i change it to ahci
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a b V Motherboard
November 27, 2013 12:01:59 PM

^^ that is normal.
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November 27, 2013 4:56:34 PM

americanbrian said:
^^ that is normal.


ok. i found out it does crash even with no applications running. even crashed on a memory test
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a b V Motherboard
November 28, 2013 3:18:14 AM

well that points maybe more to the RAM. I would try checking each slot and stick individually running memtest each time.
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November 28, 2013 2:54:32 PM

americanbrian said:
well that points maybe more to the RAM. I would try checking each slot and stick individually running memtest each time.


ive tried both slots, still crashes. i could try a different stick when i get home. it is a brand new stick tho. thanks for the suggestions, i really appreciate it :)  im going to do everything i can to avoid spending money i dont have on a motherboard. also i would like to try flashing the bios but when i try to the q flash utility in the bios tells me there is no drive found (my bios update is on a usb)
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a b V Motherboard
November 29, 2013 5:55:29 AM

hmm, I am sorry to say that after all this it seems it probably is the mobo after all. Do me one last favour though. I had a intermittent crashing problem and i eventually found out that it was my system SSD was plugged into the SATA3 ports on my Z68 mobo. moved it to a SATA2 port and was fine. I think it was one of the "recall" mobos for when intel found out they shipped like 80million faulty SATA 3 controllers.

So, try changing your drives over to sata2 ports if it is possible and just check it isn't a malfunctioning SATA3 controller.
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November 29, 2013 12:37:35 PM

americanbrian said:
hmm, I am sorry to say that after all this it seems it probably is the mobo after all. Do me one last favour though. I had a intermittent crashing problem and i eventually found out that it was my system SSD was plugged into the SATA3 ports on my Z68 mobo. moved it to a SATA2 port and was fine. I think it was one of the "recall" mobos for when intel found out they shipped like 80million faulty SATA 3 controllers.

So, try changing your drives over to sata2 ports if it is possible and just check it isn't a malfunctioning SATA3 controller.


oh thanks! i thought i was out of options. great, im keen to hear any new suggestion. id hate to throw out a motherboard if it was working ok. i flashed the bios and that didnt seem to help. managed to borrow a computer off someone with an 1156 board so ill will know for sure what has an issue
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December 16, 2013 4:38:49 PM

americanbrian said:
hmm, I am sorry to say that after all this it seems it probably is the mobo after all. Do me one last favour though. I had a intermittent crashing problem and i eventually found out that it was my system SSD was plugged into the SATA3 ports on my Z68 mobo. moved it to a SATA2 port and was fine. I think it was one of the "recall" mobos for when intel found out they shipped like 80million faulty SATA 3 controllers.

So, try changing your drives over to sata2 ports if it is possible and just check it isn't a malfunctioning SATA3 controller.

yep, it was the motherboard. managed to find a shop that had a 1156 test bed and they let me test it. it worked just fine and i also found a motherboard on my countries main online auction site for $60 NZD! so glad i could get a replacement so cheap! the guys at the shop also offered me to do a swap for their cpu + $20 which was a i5 760 :)  so all is good now. thanks for your help! sorry i forgot to get on and post the outcome sooner.
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