jump to quad or dual with HT ok?

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Hey gang,

I'm looking for a cost effective pc which I won't need to upgrade for a couple years. I'd love to grab and i5 4570s, but 200 bucks is steep...
Further, I'm reading many games don't really use extra cores (some notable exceptions but by and large they dont) I don't really do any cpu intensive stuff aside from gaming (starcraft or total war mostly, with a little mwo thrown in) and I don't even game that often....
I know of course more and faster is better but inside of 3 years do you really think someone like me will need the i5 rather than just a dual core with HT? I've survived on an old allendale pentium dual til now, only reason for upgrade is starcraft is a bit slow and I'm getting freezing/black screens (probably could solve with OS reinstall...) and also, I jumped to SSD this summer and its faster yeah... but not the amazing difference everyone talked about... and I figure its the weak cpu and slow sata ports on my old mobo. likely the case?
 
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If your usage is not that demanding an AMD A10 6800K APU is perfectly sufficient as it has a good graphics support as long as you are playing games at medium settings @ 1680X1050 resolution or lower
 
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Nope, right now, games like Battlefield 4 are just no capable of running multiplayer consistently on I3 (dual core + HT).

If you want lifetime out of a PC, either go AMD FX6300 or I5.

The 6300 is priced around an I3 but provides much better gaming results, especially in games that like more than 2 cores.
 
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its a home ofc pc 98% of the time, and gaming only the other 2.... I usually have luck riding behind the curve, picking up old higher end stuff on ebay for a song... wanted to get ahead this time... but wanted to do cpu, ram, mobo and maybe gpu (if I can sell what I got and only have to put in like 20 bucks) and if needed, psu.... for 250, 300 max... but the i5 is not cheap

Hey, base clock -- will the cpu clock UNDER it when idle/under utilized?
 
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yeah I'm in the USA, aim for 275 I guess.. was looking at the cm 212 evo for the hsf... maybe a 7790 for the vid card, I have a 7770 I would sell for likely about 70 (ebay's current going rate) assuming the 7790 was under 100... the plan was 8gb ram... beyond that I'm open. But I'm pretty heavily leaning toward haswell just for the increased efficiency.
OH also IF I needed a new psu I've settled on the antec earthwatts 450... I'll never need SLI etc... and I'll never get a high wattage cpu.
Do you know what lake tiny is beyond the "SSD pwr mgmt" line?
 
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I should note that for the most part the rest of the pc isn't in bad shape, I have an SSD and RAID 1 1tb drives, the case is fine, the psu... so long as the new vid card doesn't push me over... should be ok, Just looking at a bare bones upgrade, unless I can snag a gpu for about 100 thats an upgrade from what I got.
 
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also take note that I got a mobo for a friend for 30 bucks bk friday last year, and the ram 2x4gb g.skill at 1866 for 60
So 275 isn't as little as it may seem... at least in a few days it wont be.
 
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if its a free upgrade, its worth it to me! and it is! I found one for 70 bucks! hoping to find a 7850 for 90 though, I see one at 99 right now... maybe in a day ill save another 9 bucks.

gtx 660, all the nv cards just seem to be 30bucks more than equivalent amd... sucks....
 
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