Why is the SLI better than crossfire
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gack2009
November 27, 2013 8:16:27 AM
Novuake
November 27, 2013 8:22:29 AM
wdmfiber
November 27, 2013 8:22:52 AM
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markwp
November 27, 2013 8:26:33 AM
gack2009
November 27, 2013 8:29:28 AM
wdmfiber said:
It isn't. They are just competing technologies.Crossfire is for AMD Radeon cards and SLI is for nVidia cards. And they're both produced by TSCM. New motherboards support both.
markwp said:
Novuake said:
Quick answer, more user friendly.It can be forced on any game while Crossfire is harder to get working if the title is not specifically Xfire capable.
This^ Crossfire still has some issues with drivers.
like what? Do you mean sli don't have issues ?
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renz496
November 27, 2013 8:29:51 AM
wdmfiber said:
It isn't. They are just competing technologies.Crossfire is for AMD Radeon cards and SLI is for nVidia cards. And they're both produced by TSCM. New motherboards support both.
they were competing but in terms of stability and consistency SLI currently have the edge. amd did come with new solution with the new hawaii gpu but from what i can understand the solution are only meant for the new gpu and will not be applicable to gpu prior to hawaii.
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Novuake
November 27, 2013 8:30:35 AM
houldendub
November 27, 2013 8:33:20 AM
Novuake said:
SLI has FEWER issues. To be honest. I am totally happy with Xfire, and I have had both in the past.
Its all very subjective.
Pretty much this. I used to have real annoyances with crossfire setups, while other people never used to have problems. It's a case by case basis most of the time.
SLI has fewer issues plainly because Nvidia implemented the solution much, much further back and ironed out a lot of problems in the past, whereas AMD is just catching up really.
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CNCSIT
November 27, 2013 8:41:36 AM
houldendub said:
Novuake said:
SLI has FEWER issues. To be honest. I am totally happy with Xfire, and I have had both in the past.
Its all very subjective.
Pretty much this. I used to have real annoyances with crossfire setups, while other people never used to have problems. It's a case by case basis most of the time.
SLI has fewer issues plainly because Nvidia implemented the solution much, much further back and ironed out a lot of problems in the past, whereas AMD is just catching up really.
I read an article on PCPer where they showed that NVIDIA was running a more consistent frame rate in an SLI than XFire resulting in less stuttering.
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Novuake
November 27, 2013 8:43:40 AM
CNCSIT said:
houldendub said:
Novuake said:
SLI has FEWER issues. To be honest. I am totally happy with Xfire, and I have had both in the past.
Its all very subjective.
Pretty much this. I used to have real annoyances with crossfire setups, while other people never used to have problems. It's a case by case basis most of the time.
SLI has fewer issues plainly because Nvidia implemented the solution much, much further back and ironed out a lot of problems in the past, whereas AMD is just catching up really.
I read an article on PCPer where they showed that NVIDIA was running a more consistent frame rate in an SLI than XFire resulting in less stuttering.
Jip, that was like a year ago, does not apply anymore.
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gack2009
November 27, 2013 8:44:46 AM
bystander
November 27, 2013 8:45:43 AM
wdmfiber
November 27, 2013 8:54:43 AM
Anyway, ...if you can just stay away from both.
For 1080p, any higher-end single GPU is enough. Multi monitor setups are weird; 1600p is great and all ...for bragging rights, but in the end your still stuck at 100dpi(ppi). [30" monitor]
Besides 28nm technology is near EOL(end of life). You'll want a mid(efficient) to high-end(graphically powerful) 20nm GPU(2014 release). Codename: nVidia Maxwell. Then you can be "state of the art" for ~aprrox 2 years. Screw todays renamed/rebadged junk.
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And the new PS4 and Xbox One are weak.
They didn't go with "cutting edge" tech this time. But rather an "energy star" AMD APU. LOL...
Buy a Radeon 7770, it will be easier on the wallet to junk when the next generation GPU's are released next year.
For 1080p, any higher-end single GPU is enough. Multi monitor setups are weird; 1600p is great and all ...for bragging rights, but in the end your still stuck at 100dpi(ppi). [30" monitor]
Besides 28nm technology is near EOL(end of life). You'll want a mid(efficient) to high-end(graphically powerful) 20nm GPU(2014 release). Codename: nVidia Maxwell. Then you can be "state of the art" for ~aprrox 2 years. Screw todays renamed/rebadged junk.
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And the new PS4 and Xbox One are weak.
They didn't go with "cutting edge" tech this time. But rather an "energy star" AMD APU. LOL...
Buy a Radeon 7770, it will be easier on the wallet to junk when the next generation GPU's are released next year.
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gack2009
November 27, 2013 9:09:58 AM
wdmfiber said:
Anyway, ...if you can just stay away from both.For 1080p, any higher-end single GPU is enough. Multi monitor setups are weird; 1600p is great and all ...for bragging rights, but in the end your still stuck at 100dpi(ppi).
Besides 28nm technology is near EOL(end of life). You'll want a mid(efficient) to high-end(graphically powerful) 20nm GPU(2014 release). Codename: nVidia Maxwell. Then you can be "state of the art" for ~aprrox 2 years. Screw todays renamed/rebadged junk.
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And the new PS4 and Xbox One are weak.
They didn't go with "cutting edge" tech this time. But rather an "energy star" AMD APU. LOL...
Buy a Radeon 7770, it will be easier on the wallet to junk when the next generation GPU's are released next year.
I didn't understand anything when you said EOL what do you mean.
Do you mean i should wait until better graphics card or something?
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Novuake
November 27, 2013 9:13:33 AM
gack2009
November 27, 2013 9:27:03 AM
wdmfiber
November 27, 2013 5:11:13 PM
You very likely won't have to go SLI/crossfire in the future. If you don't need it now, well... you don't need it now. And in the near future the 290 & 770 will be too old to bother with.
It would be like having a Radeon 6950/GTX 570 right now, would you buy a 2nd this black Friday for SLI/crossfire? Possibly...? I suppose, but unlikely. As they are last generation 40nm tech.
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My case, power supply, CPU cooler, HDD's, SSD and burners are all old friends
motherboards, CPU's and especially: GPU's get junked, you can't "future-proof" them
It would be like having a Radeon 6950/GTX 570 right now, would you buy a 2nd this black Friday for SLI/crossfire? Possibly...? I suppose, but unlikely. As they are last generation 40nm tech.
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My case, power supply, CPU cooler, HDD's, SSD and burners are all old friends
motherboards, CPU's and especially: GPU's get junked, you can't "future-proof" them
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gack2009
November 28, 2013 2:18:24 AM
wdmfiber said:
You very likely won't have to go SLI/crossfire in the future. If you don't need it now, well... you don't need it now. And in the near future the 290 & 770 will be too old to bother with.It would be like having a Radeon 6950/GTX 570 right now, would you buy a 2nd this black Friday for SLI/crossfire? Possibly...? I suppose, but unlikely. As they are last generation 40nm tech.
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My case, power supply, CPU cooler, HDD's, SSD and burners are all old friends
motherboards, CPU's and especially: GPU's get junked, you can't "future-proof" them
So what i should buy ???????
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wdmfiber
November 28, 2013 7:32:18 AM
gack2009 said:
wdmfiber said:
You very likely won't have to go SLI/crossfire in the future. If you don't need it now, well... you don't need it now. And in the near future the 290 & 770 will be too old to bother with.It would be like having a Radeon 6950/GTX 570 right now, would you buy a 2nd this black Friday for SLI/crossfire? Possibly...? I suppose, but unlikely. As they are last generation 40nm tech.
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My case, power supply, CPU cooler, HDD's, SSD and burners are all old friends
motherboards, CPU's and especially: GPU's get junked, you can't "future-proof" them
So what i should buy ???????
290 or 770
If your going to make the inve$tment, either one. They're both good.
However, you are aware of the general disappointment in the 290's fan?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/r9-290-accelero-xtr...
And with the NVidia cards you'll have no compute power. Which won't matter for games.
But you can't mine, say: litecoins, other cryptos, ect or perhaps launch a "brute-force" attack on a password.
Not that you should/would find yourself doing any of those things.
Ah, frig... There is a 100 things to know; debate is endless. I could write a book...
Just flip a coin!
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wdmfiber said:
gack2009 said:
wdmfiber said:
You very likely won't have to go SLI/crossfire in the future. If you don't need it now, well... you don't need it now. And in the near future the 290 & 770 will be too old to bother with.It would be like having a Radeon 6950/GTX 570 right now, would you buy a 2nd this black Friday for SLI/crossfire? Possibly...? I suppose, but unlikely. As they are last generation 40nm tech.
_____________________________
My case, power supply, CPU cooler, HDD's, SSD and burners are all old friends
motherboards, CPU's and especially: GPU's get junked, you can't "future-proof" them
So what i should buy ???????
290 or 770
If your going to make the inve$tment, either one. They're both good.
However, you are aware of the general disappointment in the 290's fan?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/r9-290-accelero-xtr...
And with the NVidia cards you'll have no compute power. Which won't matter for games.
But you can't mine, say: litecoins, other cryptos, ect or perhaps launch a "brute-force" attack on a password.
Not that you should/would find yourself doing any of those things.
Ah, frig... There is a 100 things to know; debate is endless. I could write a book...
Just flip a coin!
Oh really? So how comes they can fold then?
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determinologyz
November 28, 2013 8:16:58 AM
Andy11466
November 28, 2013 8:37:57 AM
Novuake
November 28, 2013 9:09:41 AM
Prithwi2050
November 28, 2013 9:42:07 AM
gack2009 said:
So what is better buy R9 290 then crossfire it in future or buy gtx 770 and sli it on future?The R9 290 has no such issues at all. You will be absolutely fine with that beast!! Moreover as long as you plan to play on a single monitor non of the crossfires aren't going to create a problem for you( be it a 7970 or 7870) because Frame-pacing issues on games based on DirectX 10 and 11 have been dealt with(solved) the new 13.9 beta drivers. So R9 290 at $400 is the way to go fir you.
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corvetteguy1994
November 28, 2013 9:49:48 AM
gack2009
November 28, 2013 2:54:35 PM
corvetteguy1994
November 28, 2013 5:03:58 PM
gack2009 said:
corvetteguy1994 said:
i vote 290. much faster than the 770 and Sapphires coolers are coming out soon.What do you mean by sapphire coolers coming out soon.
and one more thing I do some 3D design not just playing games.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/sapphire-bios-r9-290-a...
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Prithwi2050
November 28, 2013 11:32:10 PM
gack2009 said:
corvetteguy1994 said:
i vote 290. much faster than the 770 and Sapphires coolers are coming out soon.What do you mean by sapphire coolers coming out soon.
and one more thing I do some 3D design not just playing games.
What he meant was that Sapphire is coming out with customized cooling solutions for the R9 290 which will replace the original cooling provided by AMD (the fans all other stuffs like the thermal grease etc). That will be way more efficient and let the graphics card maintain the sticker marked core clock when you are gaming for quite a while. And never mind your 3d designs. They will be a piece of cake for a card of that calibre.
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Ultisym
December 3, 2013 4:24:50 AM
I would avoid xfire if you are gaming on multi monitors. The microstutter is horrendous and God knows when AMD will patch that part of the drivers since its such a small percentage of gamers. I had to immediately sell a pair of 7950s right after purchasing because of the stutter. Went with 2 770s and Sli and it has been smooth as butter and get frame rates right at 60 fps with dips no lower than 47.
Short answer is xfire still has issues. But for the most part is acceptable on single monitor gaming. I havnt purchased a 290 but its my understanding they have made a progress with the issue on these cards/
Short answer is xfire still has issues. But for the most part is acceptable on single monitor gaming. I havnt purchased a 290 but its my understanding they have made a progress with the issue on these cards/
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