Help with compact gaming build

El_pollo_loco

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Need some help


Basically, I want to build a computer, rather than buy one. The cost savings appear surprisingly large and having done it before, it isn't that hard. I used to build systems 10 years ago, and have a BSEE but haven't used it for years. So I have some knowledge, but don't have time these days to do tons of research. So I'd love everyone's feedback on what I'm looking to do so I don't make any boneheaded mistakes.

The machine will be primarily for web surfing and gaming. I'm budgeting something like $2000 but can spend more it made sense.

I'll be upgrading the monitor to a 27" IPS WQHD, 2560 x 1440 (not part of the $2000). So ideally, would like enough horsepower to game at that resolution.
Also, I live in an apartment, so somewhat space constrained. So, I'd like to go with a smaller case.

Finally, I'll spend a bit more to get reliable components.

I'm going to layout what I want to buy, and then I like to get some input on a couple of things:


(1) Overall, does the build make sense at a high-level (e.g., is it balanced as a game machine)?

(2) Will these components actually work together? That is, will the power supply work with the case? Will the processor and memory work with the mother board?

(3) Cooling - I may now, or eventually, want to run two GPUs. So that, plus a space constrained case may make that challenging. So feedback would be useful.

(4) Any thoughts on where I should potentially spend more money.

(5) I'm looking to buy this stuff on either newegg or amazon. Thoughts on whether that makes sense?

What I'm looking at right now

Case - Silverstone SG10 - I need something small, less than 14" tall. And it needs to look not like a crazy game machine (E.g., brushed metal)

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=392

As I mentioned, I want something smaller. I live in small apartment. Also want to get it off the floor onto a bookshelf so kids can't get at it. This is about small enough and evidently, with the right motherboard, I can put two graphics cards.

GPUs- Thinking about 1 card now. Then leaving option open to put in another card in a year
(SLI). In past systems, I have had BFG and EVGA brand cards and they seemed fine. Thoughts????

GIGABYTE GV-N780GHZ-3GD GeForce GTX 780 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready Video Card.

CPU - Was going to buy a i7 but sites seem to indicate that for gaming, i5 is for most purposes, just as good. Is this a reasonable choice? What is the best i5 for gaming?

I was thinking about --- > Intel Core i5-4670 Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop
Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I54670

Motherboard - Basically, I want a
ASUS Z87M-PLUS LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 uATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131984

Drives - I want a SSD and a data drive. Basically, I've done almost no research on drives. Are these reasonably buys?

SAMSUNG 840 EVO MZ-7TE500BW 2.5" 500GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Seagate SV35 Series ST3000VX000 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal

Memory - Looking for (1) reliable and (2)
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-16GXM

Power Supply - I know little about power supplies. What would be (1) reliable and (2) Work with the SG10 Case??

Thermaltake Toughpower TP-1350M 1350W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular
 
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The problem with cases like that is the heat dissipation. I can't think of too many off the top of my head that meet those requirements. The Silverstone SG06 is a good choice. Maybe check out the EVGA Hadron - it comes with a power...

g-unit1111

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First off you are not coming out ahead on that storage solution. It's quite a bit overkill, and 500GB SSDs aren't really worth it. 16GB of RAM does nothing for gaming.

That PSU is not from a brand that is known for reliability,a and 1350W is major overkill for a single GTX 780 setup. On a $2K budget for an mATX rig here's what I would suggest:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40 98.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($122.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vector 150 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.79 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card ($699.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 350D MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($67.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1680.69
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-27 13:44 EST-0500)
 

El_pollo_loco

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Thanks for quick response. My budget is $2000, but would spend more or less than that if it made sense (i.e., mostly looking for value and money isn't that big of a concern).

What do you mean by "not coming out ahead on the storage solution"? My idea behind the 500gb SSD is I don't want the hassle of upgrading it down the line in a few years. Whereas I would likely upgrade the GPU and the CPU. Maybe I'm weighing the hassle factor too high. I'm imaging it being a PITA given the OS is there.

Any suggestions on the power supply? Brands? Something that would work with that case? Also, I'm likely to have another GPU in a year or so (i.e., in SLI).
 

El_pollo_loco

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Also, I see your suggestion now. That all looks reasonable. However, I need a case that is <14" tall as I want to put in in a open bookshelf (to get it away from the kids). Any suggestions? Ideally,

- Less than 14" tall
- Looks semi-professional (e.g., brushed metal) vs. something that looks like a 16 year old would have in their bedroom
- Ideally, can handle uATX and deal with having 2 GPUs although maybe that's too much to ask.

Also, how much work do you think it is to set-up the liquid cooler?
 

g-unit1111

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The problem with cases like that is the heat dissipation. I can't think of too many off the top of my head that meet those requirements. The Silverstone SG06 is a good choice. Maybe check out the EVGA Hadron - it comes with a power supply that should power a single 780TI. The only downside is you have to purchase the CD drive direct from EVGA: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811205011

Alternately consider the Bitfenix Prodigy M: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811345030
 
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