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Gaming PC. Budget £3,000 GBP Max. Bit of a noob so suggestions welcome!

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November 27, 2013 2:50:28 PM

Good evening ladies and gents,

Link to build: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/29RKm

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g: January 2014 (January Sales)

Budget Range: £2500-£3000 including taxes, shipping and monitors.

System Usage: Gaming

Are you buying a monitor: Yes - Twin or Triple monitors. Looking at either [19-21 inch x 3] or [24-27 inch x 2]...desk isn't big enough for anything larger

Parts to Upgrade: This is a complete new build from scratch. Parts I can carry forward are: keyboard, mouse, 3.1 speakers.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: UK based.

Location: Hereford, England.

Parts Preferences: I have no bias to one brand or another, just looking for 'bang for buck' as well as the features in the additional comments below.

Overclocking: Yes - in the future or now if budget allows.

SLI or Crossfire: Yes - in the future or now if budget allows.

Your Monitor Resolution: I like first person shooters so something with a low refresh rate and high resolution I guess.

Additional Comments:
1) I'd like to explore 3D gaming at some point, so maybe need monitors that will allow this.

2) I have no clue if there is a better option between single card/SLI/Crossfire and eyefinity/"theotherone"...or to put it bluntly, I don't know much, I'm a noob, I'm willing to learn and have been reading this site for a few months now but I still feel there's no 'right' answer for my particular set-up: multi screen; any brand; possibility of 3D.

3) PC will be on ALL day, for work (mainly email and document based, nothing taxing) and then gaming, so would be nice to have a rig that can sustain prolonged use without breaking. Maybe with automatic fans that very their speed.

4) My main games are BF4 & Skyrim. I'm making the move over from console gaming and would like to play these games on max settings if possible on my budget so that i can truly appreciate the PC master race.

5) I don't know too much about GPU's so please some feedback on better alternatives would be much appreciated!

6) Do i have enough cooling in my build below? Is liquid cooling a good idea?

7) I have gone for a large PSU in case i later upgrade for 3 way SLI


Here is the build I have made so far...please criticise away and make suggestions. Please keep in mind my desire to future proof this initial build if possible and play games on max settings.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/29RKm

Thank you!

Tom.

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November 27, 2013 3:19:12 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£239.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£87.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£134.24 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£53.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£119.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£42.50 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (£594.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (£594.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£88.48 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£115.06 @ Aria PC)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£10.78 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro - OEM (64-bit) (£70.57 @ Scan.co.uk)
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor (£454.68 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £2608.15
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-27 23:20 GMT+0000)
-No need for socket LGA 2011. Those are for work stations, not gaming.
-8gb ram is plenty for games.
-Samsung 840 EVO is much cheaper and is just a little bit slower, you can't notice it.
-Upgraded the gpus to SLI GTX 780 ti.
-Dropped the sound card and wired adapter. Motherboard has good onboard audio and lan.
-Dropped the wireless adapter, if you really need one then you can add another one back in.
-Different case. The Define R4 is very silent. However, case is always up to you. If you like how the Phantom looks, you might want to go for the NZXT Phantom instead of the Phantom 820.
-850w is plenty for this build.
-No need for blu-ray in games.

Instead of a multiple monitor set-up, you should go for a single 1440p monitor. The image quality is much better, and it's also IPS.
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November 27, 2013 3:22:01 PM

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Additional Comments:
1) I'd like to explore 3D gaming at some point, so maybe need monitors that will allow this.


I generally don't advise people on waiting on hardware but if you want 3-D, this current technology is not worth investing in. Wait for the Oculus Rift ( http://www.oculusvr.com/ ) . Looking at a display through 3-D glasses will not be worth the investment. The Rift is still in the early stages of development but it's already changing things drastically.

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Here is the build I have made so far...please criticise away and make suggestions. Please keep in mind my desire to future proof this initial build if possible and play games on max settings.


No such thing. Paying 3X as much for a motherboard and CPU isn't going to guarantee that your build will be "future proof". It will run for the next four or five years but not beyond that. Technology changes all the time and even for someone like me it's hard to keep up. :lol: 

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-No need for blu-ray in games.


Yes this is completely true. Games will never use the format (even in the new consoles - PS4 and XBOne, they're only being used for installing games and DRM verification, and nothing else). Watching movies is more of a hassle than a convenience. Plus everything is moving toward cloud computing and online distribution like Steam and iTunes, Hulu, Netflix, etc etc.

Well for starters the i7-4930K does nothing for gaming. The extra sound card and NIC are complete wastes of money.

This would be a better and less expensive option IMO:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£175.98 @ Ebuyer)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X60 98.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£114.72 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£133.03 @ Dabs)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£72.42 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: OCZ Vector 150 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£100.97 @ Dabs)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£63.00 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (£539.99 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (£539.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: NZXT Phantom 630 (Gunmetal) ATX Full Tower Case (£143.56 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: NZXT HALE 90 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£136.62 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£13.18 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£65.99 @ Aria PC)
Total: £2099.45
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-27 23:19 GMT+0000)

Then with the rest add whatever monitors, keyboard and mouser you want.

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November 27, 2013 5:19:13 PM

Thank you both.

So Here's my prospective system as it stands, taking on-board both of your suggestions:

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/29XQq
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/29XQq/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/29XQq/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£175.98 @ Ebuyer)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£87.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£134.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£134.99 @ Novatech)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£124.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£63.00 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (£594.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (£594.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-AC68 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (£65.03 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£82.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: NZXT HALE 90 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£136.62 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£13.18 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro - OEM (64-bit) (£70.57 @ Scan.co.uk)
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor (£454.68 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £2734.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-28 01:13 GMT+0000)

Questions:
1) Do I need to add any extra fans, thermal compound, wire casings etc? (or do the parts already listed come with the necessary bits and bobs...). I would very much like to have a comprehensive list of what's needed otherwise I'll get halfway through the build and discover I need to order something (sounds like me!)

2) Is there anything else we can do to trim the fat? I notice I had a few items previously that we've now either substituted or dropped completely, anything else that needs to go?

Thank you sincerely for your time!

Tom.
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November 27, 2013 5:38:40 PM

1. All the cables, wires, etc. are all included with the components.
2. You still don't need 16gb of ram. 2x4gb is still plenty for games.
Getting the XFX psu I posted above can save you ~£20, but either is fine.

Everything else looks good to go.
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November 27, 2013 8:27:06 PM

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1) Do I need to add any extra fans, thermal compound, wire casings etc? (or do the parts already listed come with the necessary bits and bobs...). I would very much like to have a comprehensive list of what's needed otherwise I'll get halfway through the build and discover I need to order something (sounds like me!)

2) Is there anything else we can do to trim the fat? I notice I had a few items previously that we've now either substituted or dropped completely, anything else that needs to go?


1. You can only buy as many fans as your case has the mounts for, so wait until you purchase your case before buying fans. Thermal compound is not necessary to purchase extra.

2. I agree with realchaos - 16GB of RAM is not necessary. Although I will say stick with the NZXT PSU because it's made by Super Flower and among the highest quality units you can buy. The XFX isn't too bad though.
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