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November 27, 2013 7:52:39 PM

Hey can I check with you people if this build is efficient and good for video editing and gaming? And should I use a Nvidia card or AMD card? My budget is $2000 from this list: https://www.dropbox.com/s/in6z6g0en4yjf0e/Pc%20Theme%20...

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($653)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 X ($69)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4
Memory: G.SKILL RIPJAWS-X 1866MHZ ( 8GBx2pcs ) CL9 ($232)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149)
Storage: WD Blue 1TB 7200rpm 64MB Cache ($85)
Video Card: Gigabyte R9 280X 3GB O.C DDR5 ($449)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ($155)
Power Supply: Seasonic M12II-MODULAR 650W ($125)
Optical Drive: LG 24X DVD-RW SATA OEM ($25)
Total: $1976

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a c 649 4 Gaming
November 27, 2013 10:42:36 PM

Looks good, you should be happy with that, will handle whatever you throw at it ;)  Let us know how the build goes ;) 
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November 27, 2013 10:47:06 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Looks good, you should be happy with that, will handle whatever you throw at it ;)  Let us know how the build goes ;) 


Okay I will soon. So it's better if I use this video card compared to an Nvidia one with the same price range?
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a c 649 4 Gaming
November 27, 2013 10:56:19 PM

For video work I'd lean towards the nVidia, but sort of in the air on gaming, if Mantle takes off and I think it will then the 280X would be preferable for gaming, the 770 is comparable (actually a little better), so might check for the best deal on either/or
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November 27, 2013 11:05:59 PM

Tradesman1 said:
For video work I'd lean towards the nVidia, but sort of in the air on gaming, if Mantle takes off and I think it will then the 280X would be preferable for gaming, the 770 is comparable (actually a little better), so might check for the best deal on either/or


Oh then which GTX 770 should I choose from the list if I decide to switch? Gigabyte?
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a b 4 Gaming
November 27, 2013 11:07:52 PM

What country are you buying in? Those prices look too high for USD. Singapore?

Heavy video editing definitely will benefit from the i7's eight threads. You might want to consider a Xeon 1230 V3 since it's a little cheaper, but you lose overclocking ability ( which may or may not be a big thing to you, ) and the QuickSync ( which your video software might be able to use quite well. )

You don't need to spend extra on 1866 RAM. 1600 is enough ( if you want to splurge a bit, get CAS 8 sticks. ) I don't know that two 8GB sticks will perform any better than four 4GB sticks. Four sticks are sometimes cheaper, but going with two larger sticks means adding more RAM later is easier to do ( perhaps if the video editing becomes the main use of the computer. )

You might want a bigger platter drive if you're working with large video files. If not, your mboard has eSATA so attaching a fast external drive is easy.

Video card depends on your video editing software. The 7970/280X definitely has the best compute power, but only if your software can utilize it. If it supports OpenCL and the like, then I'd stay with the Radeon. If it likes CUDA better, then head for nVidia ( a 760 would be quite nice. )

PSU looks good, case is nice ( though that's largely personal preference. )
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November 28, 2013 5:55:44 AM

RedJaron said:
What country are you buying in? Those prices look too high for USD. Singapore?

Heavy video editing definitely will benefit from the i7's eight threads. You might want to consider a Xeon 1230 V3 since it's a little cheaper, but you lose overclocking ability ( which may or may not be a big thing to you, ) and the QuickSync ( which your video software might be able to use quite well. )

You don't need to spend extra on 1866 RAM. 1600 is enough ( if you want to splurge a bit, get CAS 8 sticks. ) I don't know that two 8GB sticks will perform any better than four 4GB sticks. Four sticks are sometimes cheaper, but going with two larger sticks means adding more RAM later is easier to do ( perhaps if the video editing becomes the main use of the computer. )

You might want a bigger platter drive if you're working with large video files. If not, your mboard has eSATA so attaching a fast external drive is easy.

Video card depends on your video editing software. The 7970/280X definitely has the best compute power, but only if your software can utilize it. If it supports OpenCL and the like, then I'd stay with the Radeon. If it likes CUDA better, then head for nVidia ( a 760 would be quite nice. )

PSU looks good, case is nice ( though that's largely personal preference. )


Yeah it's in Singapore currency.

I'm sorry but I'm still new to this PC components stuff, so is the 4770k processor a eight thread? If not, then which one with around the same price is?

I am also not sure about the platter drive section? Does that mean a hard drive?

From what I heard about video cards, nVidia is more preferred for video editing compared to Radeon. Is that true? If it is, then i'll get a 760.
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November 28, 2013 7:28:12 AM

ongyefeng said:
I'm sorry but I'm still new to this PC components stuff, so is the 4770k processor a eight thread? If not, then which one with around the same price is?

I am also not sure about the platter drive section? Does that mean a hard drive?

From what I heard about video cards, nVidia is more preferred for video editing compared to Radeon. Is that true? If it is, then i'll get a 760.

Not at all a problem.

Yes, all i7 CPUs have four cores, but they have Hyper-Threading. That's Intel's tech that allows a single core to work on two threads at once. It's not quite as fast as having eight physical cores, but it's pretty close. That's often represented by "4C/8T".

Yes, a platter drive is a traditional hard drive. They have stacked magnetic platters inside the drive that hold your data. However solid-states drives are also considered hard drives. That's why people can't just say "hard drive" since that refers to any method of permanent data storage in your system. Most people will use SSD and platter or magnetic drive to differentiate between the two. If you're constantly working with very large video files, that might fill up a 1TB drive pretty fast. If that's the case, you may want to look for a 2TB drive, or use external drives over the mboard's eSATA connection.

It used to be that nVidia was the only way to go for video processing. That's because nVidia has a proprietary tech called CUDA that allows their video cards to drastically accelerate the transcoding process. However recently AMD has pushed OpenCL, an open standard that anyone can use. Their Radeons handle general processing and computing better than nVidia. If the software you use for video editing supports Radeons and OpenCL, I'd go that route. If it only supports CUDA, then get an nVidia.

One more thing to consider is Intel's QuickSync. This was a tech that's supported on their CPUs since Sandy Bridge. Like CUDA and OpenCL, it accelerates video processing very well. Again, check with your software to see if this is supported.
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November 28, 2013 7:50:34 AM

ongyefeng said:
Tradesman1 said:
For video work I'd lean towards the nVidia, but sort of in the air on gaming, if Mantle takes off and I think it will then the 280X would be preferable for gaming, the 770 is comparable (actually a little better), so might check for the best deal on either/or


Oh then which GTX 770 should I choose from the list if I decide to switch? Gigabyte?

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With the 770s I look at at Asus and EVGA as first choices, Love the Asus CU cooling design and they always seem to OC very well
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November 28, 2013 8:38:32 AM

RedJaron said:
ongyefeng said:
I'm sorry but I'm still new to this PC components stuff, so is the 4770k processor a eight thread? If then which one with around the same price is?

I am also not sure about the platter drive section? Does that mean a hard drive?

From what I heard about video cards, nVidia is more preferred for video editing compared to Radeon. Is that true? If it is, then i'll get a 760.

Not at all a problem.

Yes, all i7 CPUs have four cores, but they have Hyper-Threading. That's Intel's tech that allows a single core to work on two threads at once. It's not quite as fast as having eight physical cores, but it's pretty close. That's often represented by "4C/8T".

Yes, a platter drive is a traditional hard drive. They have stacked magnetic platters inside the drive that hold your data. However solid-states drives are also considered hard drives. That's why people can't just say "hard drive" since that refers to any method of permanent data storage in your system. Most people will use SSD and platter or magnetic drive to differentiate between the two. If you're constantly working with very large video files, that might fill up a 1TB drive pretty fast. If that's the case, you may want to look for a 2TB drive, or use external drives over the mboard's eSATA connection.

It used to be that nVidia was the only way to go for video processing. That's because nVidia has a proprietary tech called CUDA that allows their video cards to drastically accelerate the transcoding process. However recently AMD has pushed OpenCL, an open standard that anyone can use. Their Radeons handle general processing and computing better than nVidia. If the software you use for video editing supports Radeons and OpenCL, I'd go that route. If it only supports CUDA, then get an nVidia.

One more thing to consider is Intel's QuickSync. This was a tech that's supported on their CPUs since Sandy Bridge. Like CUDA and OpenCL, it accelerates video processing very well. Again, check with your software to see if this is supported.


Okay so I checked with the Premiere Pro and Vegas Pro, and I guess both softwares will support nVidia GTX 770, but that`s over my price range...
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro/gpuacceler...
http://www.adobe.com/sea/products/premiere/tech-specs.h...
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November 28, 2013 9:41:56 AM

ongyefeng said:
Okay so I checked with the Premiere Pro and Vegas Pro, and I guess both softwares will support nVidia GTX 770, but that`s over my price range...
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro/gpuacceler...
http://www.adobe.com/sea/products/premiere/tech-specs.h...

Those sites also list OpenCL and Radeon support.

However, those are the specifications for the latest version of those products ( Premiere Pro Creative Cloud, and Vegas Pro 12. ) Do you have those versions, or do you own older copies? Some of the older versions didn't have OpenCL support, so check on what you have.

If you do have OpenCL support, I'd stick with the 280X. If you can only get CUDA/nVidia support, the 760 is the way to go.
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November 28, 2013 7:22:53 PM

RedJaron said:
ongyefeng said:
Okay so I checked with the Premiere Pro and Vegas Pro, and I guess both softwares will support nVidia GTX 770, but that`s over my price range...
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro/gpuacceler...
http://www.adobe.com/sea/products/premiere/tech-specs.h...

Those sites also list OpenCL and Radeon support.

However, those are the specifications for the latest version of those products ( Premiere Pro Creative Cloud, and Vegas Pro 12. ) Do you have those versions, or do you own older copies? Some of the older versions didn't have OpenCL support, so check on what you have.

If you do have OpenCL support, I'd stick with the 280X. If you can only get CUDA/nVidia support, the 760 is the way to go.


Oh I am using Premiere Pro CS6 and Vegas Pro 12.
http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/syste... Premiere Pro CS6 system requirements
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro/gpuacceler...

But I am not sure if they have support for my card, since they are not specified in the System Requirements. Could you help me to check? Thanks!
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November 28, 2013 7:23:51 PM

Tradesman1 said:
ongyefeng said:
Tradesman1 said:
For video work I'd lean towards the nVidia, but sort of in the air on gaming, if Mantle takes off and I think it will then the 280X would be preferable for gaming, the 770 is comparable (actually a little better), so might check for the best deal on either/or


Oh then which GTX 770 should I choose from the list if I decide to switch? Gigabyte?

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With the 770s I look at at Asus and EVGA as first choices, Love the Asus CU cooling design and they always seem to OC very well


Okay thanks! If I change to nVdia, then I guess I'll use Asus.
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a c 649 4 Gaming
November 28, 2013 7:29:15 PM

Let us know how all goes ;) 
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November 29, 2013 6:07:32 AM

Tradesman1 said:
Let us know how all goes ;) 


Okay I will!
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a c 649 4 Gaming
November 29, 2013 8:21:55 AM

Will be waiting ;) 
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December 8, 2013 4:48:55 AM

Tradesman1 said:
Will be waiting ;) 


Hey have been using my new computer for a week now and I'm very satisfied with it. It can run Premiere Pro and Battlefield 4 smoothly!
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a c 649 4 Gaming
December 8, 2013 6:32:11 AM

Glad to hear, may want to close the thread now, have fun ;) 
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