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November 28, 2013 2:20:02 AM

Hello,

This is my first post here and i am looking to build a good gaming rig which would be able to run current games at high-ulta settings and still be able to run games 3-4 years later at mid settings(futureproof). I am not from a computers background so but a gaming enthusiast, so some of the question will quite obvious stupid type ones.

Big post with loads of questions in between so will appreciate if those are answered so i can learn a bit about hardware too

I read a whole lot of posts here to get a general idea but most of it appeared jargon to me as i am not very familiar with computer component, so i have a lot of questions also.

Most important thing - Budget - I want to just focus on the 3 most expensive components first i.e the CPU GPU and motherboard. I am looking to spend between 600-800 dollars depending on value for money for these 3 things. If they are cheaper than this then well and good.

A) CPU - i5 3570k ( $200 newegg )- This is what i read from many posts and the best cpu i can get. But most of those posts were from 2012. So is there an update to this like haswell cpu's are better? i would not want a 2500K or 3350P or 3570 as i want to overclock and price diff is like $20 between those and willing to spend this much more to get higher performance. Bang for buck basically. or should i got for i7-4770K which is $80 costlier. Will this improve performance significantly?

B) Motherboards - This is the maximum confusion point. I know that we need a Z77 motherboard to overclock the above mentioned CPU. But there are so many motherboards priced between $100-200 and i am not able to see what is the difference. My requirements are 2-3 USB 3.0 ports, 2-3 USB 2.0 ports, 4 ram slots, Z77 to overclock and should support a graphic card, not planning to use crossfire or SLI (not sure but these are multiple gpu's right?). Want to buy a powerful single gpu currently.

So i looked at these 2 motherboards
ASUS P8Z77-V PRO ($175) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASUS P8Z77-V LK ($130) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Looking at the specifications, the difference i found was that there 4 x SATA 6Gb/s vs 2 x SATA 6Gb/s. Dont know what SATA is please tell me someone. And there was a wifi card on the costlier one(are these like $50 worth?). Also what is PCI express things someone answer this too.

So please let me know that is it worth spending $175-200 on the motherboard or will the $125 one work as fine. Also suggest if there are better gigabyte or MSI boards.

C) GPU - I want to run a single monitor on 1920*1080 resolution. No crossfire or SLI for now as it seems complicated to me as a first time builder. If the above 2 components are for say $350 on avg then i can spend $250-450 here. I have heard that GPU is the main thing which determines FPS, so better spending here than on CPU or motherboard right?

So my choices were
GTX 680 ($320) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GTX 770 ($340) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
R9 280X ($310) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
R9 290 ( dont know price as cant find on newegg )
Are these enough? should i go up or should i go down as performance increase is not significant from lower end models?

D) Will buy RAM power supply fan etc later as these are cheaper components.

Thanks for all the help. Looking to get this on black Friday so would want quick answers and sorry for such long detailed post.




a b 4 Gaming
November 28, 2013 2:22:07 AM

well you are going to want to use intels newer 1150 socket so that CPU and mobo won't work. Give me your total budget and I will make a build for you
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November 28, 2013 2:25:34 AM

mcdonh said:
well you are going to want to use intels newer 1150 socket so that CPU and mobo won't work. Give me your total budget and I will make a build for you


Budget is flexible say $700 for just the mobo cpu and gpu. forget other things for the time being.
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a b 4 Gaming
November 28, 2013 3:02:10 AM

Here is something for 700
The R9 290 includes BF4, but i would wait for non referenced model since the referenced model has some cooling and noise problems.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $714.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-28 06:00 EST-0500)
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November 28, 2013 3:21:05 AM

maurelie said:
Here is something for 700
The R9 290 includes BF4, but i would wait for non referenced model since the referenced model has some cooling and noise problems.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $714.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-28 06:00 EST-0500)


1. What is non referenced model? is XFX best or go for ASUS?
2. Why is 4670k better than 3570k?
3. Can u answer some of the questions i asked in my original post?
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a b 4 Gaming
November 28, 2013 12:02:04 PM

A 4670K is the 1150 socket version of the 3570K. by referenced he means that the stock cooler on that graphics card isn't great so you need to wait for other companies to make a stock cooler for it or you can install one your self which unless you know what you are doing is not advisable
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