Fx6300 has bottlenecked my r9 280x

T4Gx · Nov 28, 2013

GPU only runs at 74-77% on 96-100% cpu usage.

Will an FX8320 be able to handle the 280x properly or will I have to also rip out the motherboard and replace it with an intel capable one?

Also is it true you gotta do a fresh install of windows if the cpu is changed?

GamerDrone · Nov 28, 2013

You can either overclock the 6300 and the bottleneck will reduce considerably or you could upgrade to Fx 8350 , by which the bottleneck will completely disappear...

No you dont need to do a fresh install if only the CPU changes !

Guest · Nov 28, 2013

T4Gx :

if you had an oem copy of windows and u ripped out your mobo then you'd need to buy a new copy of windows

Murissokah · Nov 28, 2013

Hello T4Gx,

Firstly, under what conditions does that happen? I'm really curious because it has been quite some time since I last ran into a CPU bottleneck and my processor (2500K) is not very different in performance. In your place, I wouldn't go for the FX8320 because it isn't a great improvement over your current one.

If you are going to upgrade, I advise going all the way to a new motherboard and CPU, otherwise you risk spending money for little noticeable improvement. Also, consider that the CPU usage might be high due to bad coding and not lacking hardware.

GamerDrone · Nov 28, 2013

If you have a 990FX Mobo.. Then get this deal..AMD FX-9370 Vishera 4.4GHz available for just $199 .. better than any Intel counterpart .. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113346&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL112813&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL112813-_-EMC-112813-Latest-_-ProcessorsDesktops-_-19113346-L06D

rstoledo · Nov 28, 2013

What game are you playing that has bottlenecked it ?

Also, how much do you have as a budget that you could throw on the system ? For that we also have 2 options, are you willing to stay with an AMD rig ? or would you rather go to Intel ?

What I would say is: If you are planning on staying on AMD, I would do a minor upgrade, getting an 8320 or an 8350 (if the board is compatible to it) or even the 9XXX (also, check for compatibility with your MB), and wait until a future AMD release, I sincerely believe that socket AM3+ era for AMD is about to end, and that if they release a new CPU that goes in line with the actual FX logic, it would be on a newer socket type.

If you are planning to go to Intel, check your budget, see what else you need and search on the reviews abroad what MB+CPU combo would mostly suit your needs.

Hope it helped!

azzazel_99 · Nov 28, 2013

6300 amd and 2500k intel arent even close to being in the same ballpark imo. I barely get 70% usage on my 2500k on bf4. You are running a outdated processor and need to uograde or 9verclock it considerably and buy yourself some time. Either way sooner or later (probably sooner) you will need to purchase a new mobo combo, awesome part is you can get some pretty nice stuff for fairly cheap now days. Read some benchmark reviews that toms did on processor and motherboards and judge your options off those performance numbers.

T4Gx · Nov 28, 2013

azzazel_99 :

Are you talking to me or the guy with the 2500k? lol
Bottleneck happens when I'm playing AC4. It's a very unoptimized game yeah but I've seen a yt vid of a guy doing 60fps steady with a 280x and intel cpu.

Right now I'm thinking of switching to intel by getting the i5 4670k. Whats a good but cheap mobo to pair with it? Don't plan on OC'ing or CFing or put like 64gb of ram on it.

azzazel_99 · Nov 28, 2013

I personally like the msi boards because of the military class capacitors and the oc genie. Its overclocks everything for you the way its supposed to be so its a simple click of the button. I love my msi p67a-gd65.

Inertia01 · Nov 28, 2013

i can personally vouch for the i5 4670k i went from an amd 6100 and the difference it made was incredible my frame rates in bf4 increased by a good margin i now dont get any frame drops on any map same with a few other games made a good difference.

I bought a new motherboard also the asrock h87 fatality performance for $122 here in australia which is cheap imo and has lots of good features
which would suit you as you said you were not into overclocking

edit: i also did a fresh install to windows to make sure that i had clered out all my old amd stuff along with whatever nasties you pick up over time

GamerDrone · Nov 28, 2013

The best budget board for Intel 4th Gen CPU's : MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate -- $94.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130695

Also i would recommend you for goin with i7-4770k ($249 -- http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74770k ) as it is only $25 costlier than the i5-4570k .. If you have a microcenter nearby ! even if you dont its only $70 costlier.. Go for i7 i would say with the MSI mobo

Raidur · Nov 28, 2013

Overclock!!!

Going from 6 to 8 cores is going to do next to nothing on gaming, and absolutely nothing on 99% of games.

If you are still unhappy with your performance then its time to go intel.

In most instances AMD is plenty, but in some CPU bound games and playing games with super-high end GPU(s) @ 1080p, it isn't.

That being said, it may not be worth it to upgrade your entire system, overclock first. It is quite easy if you aren't experienced, a couple settings can add a quick 30% performance to your chip.

GamerDrone :

This is simply silly, as far as gaming is concerned. That little bit of L1/L2 isn't going to help much, and 6 to 8 cores is nothing for games. Clock for clock those CPUs are going to be very similar (a barely measurable difference, let alone noticeable) in any game's performance.

Not to mention, in gaming the "intel counterpart (i5 ivy/haswell unlocked quad)" clock for clock is far superior when high-end GPUs or CPU-bound/heavy games are taken into account.

T4Gx · Nov 28, 2013

Raidur :

Overclock!!!

Going from 6 to 8 cores is going to do next to nothing on gaming, and absolutely nothing on 99% of games.

If you are still unhappy with your performance then its time to go intel.

In most instances AMD is plenty, but in some CPU bound games and playing games with super-high end GPU(s) @ 1080p, it isn't.

That being said, it may not be worth it to upgrade your entire system, overclock first. It is quite easy if you aren't experienced, a couple settings can add a quick 30% performance to your chip.

GamerDrone :

This is simply silly, as far as gaming is concerned. That little bit of L1/L2 isn't going to help much, and 6 to 8 cores is nothing for games. Clock for clock those CPUs are going to be very similar (a barely measurable difference, let alone noticeable) in any game's performance.

Not to mention, in gaming the "intel counterpart (i5 ivy/haswell unlocked quad)" clock for clock is far superior when high-end GPUs or CPU-bound/heavy games are taken into account.

My mobo right now is this one I'm not sure if it can handle overclocking haha
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4311#bios

GamerDrone · Nov 28, 2013

Raidur :

Actually its just opposite... Almost all the latest high end games are optimized for AMD.. Plus the AMD has 8 core which is better than Quad Core i5 as all the next gen games use 8 cores... Also the 9370 is very much powerful than the i5-4670k.. check here : http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html .. If you can see the FX-9370 gets a rating of 9,774 wereas the i5-4670k gets only a rating of 7,537 .. also in this case the guy already has a AM3+ mobo and he will not need to change his mobo as well.. Also a R9 280x matched with a FX-9370 will give way better results..

Raidur · Nov 28, 2013

GamerDrone :

Raidur :

CPUbenchmark? Aren't we talking about gaming rather than synthetics?

Did you notice the 9370 has a 1ghz handicap over the 4670k? Also, did you notice the score of 10,164 from the 4770k (at a lower 3.5ghz) that only has the silly little HT over the i5, which doesn't help in most games.

Or, maybe you should look at Intel's old arch, 6 core ivy, running at yet a slower 3.2ghz (we're talking almost a 40% ghz handicap, then having 25% less cores than the AMD), beats it by 20% CPUbench score? Quite a gap in IPC we're seeing in your chosen benches, wouldn't you agree?

Lets not forget how little HT and extra cores mean in gaming. Maybe they mean a little more in AMD thanks to horrible IPC, but you may catch my drift.

As far as all the latest games being optimized for AMD, making their counter-parts superior, the benches simply aren't showing that. :/ Not saying it isn't helping the lean a little.

That being said, AMD CPUs are a great value and I think they're great. Though, comments you chose are quite silly. Also, I can't quite recommend the 9370 at it's price when the 6300 clock for clock is so close in gaming.

Inertia01 · Nov 28, 2013

agree with raidur those benchmarks show no game performances with the cpus

rstoledo · Dec 2, 2013

Well, the point was not to start an Intel Vs AMD topic, either way the option to upgrade the whole system depends on the budget he has for it... the 8320 is around for US$150,00~US$170,00 (8350 would go for US$180,00~US$200,00), it is either of them would not bottleneck your GPU, and would allow you to continue with your rig for awhile.

If you DO have a budget to spent, and do not really need it for now, I would wait a bit to check the effects that the new console gen bring to PC gaming.

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