is amd choosing not to make cpu's better than intel's on purpose?

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I don't want to sound naive here but I'm really asking this question based on the range of cpu's amd has out at the moment for gaming purposes. i've read that the am3+ socket is on it's way out and there is the alternative fm2 socket for A series apu's but there not for gaming. Intel have released the 4th generation haswell chips which are a step up from ivy bridge. i'm not saying the ib's were better than the current line of fx chips from amd but if there was any confusion about going for an intel i5 or perhaps an fx 6300, well thanks to the haswell's i think the answer is more obvious. now i'm not bashing amd right and here's my main point: why can't amd just make cpu's that are the same or better than intel?
 

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Man, I know this thread has a HUGE possibility to become an Intel fan Vs AMD fan argument, I hope it doesn't.

Both of the companies are trying to get the best out of they can, as you stated, Intel has some of the best CPU's on the market, but that can only be said as guaranteed when talking on mono-thread processing, for multi-thread, on some cases AMD has performed better than Intel, and others the other way around.

One thing that AMD has done right, is those APU's - the A-Series - with it, AMD was able to provide a better solution than Intel, since the integrated cards on the AMD processors has performed better than on the Intel ones (note: here I am saying the GPU that come with the APU, literally inside, on AMD we may get an "on-board" card such as the Radeon HD8670D, and Intel's goes to the Intel HD 5000 - latest info I read)

What I could also say, is that Multi-thread is pointed out to be the future, I will not say that at a same CPU cost, Intel solution will be better or AMD's one will... that depends on how you use your rig.

Hope it helped.
 
No one wants to have a slower chip, AMD tries, but Intel has more money to dump into research.

And as stated, AMD does do better in some benchmarks, Intel in others.

Also comes down to price too in some areas over others. In the US, I notice Intel's and AMD's are fairly the same priced for say an 8350 vs i5. In canada it's different. My 8320 is only $5 more than a I3. So my choice was either an 8core CPU or a dual core CPU for the same price. No brainer there. I overclocked my 8320 to 4.7ghz (extra 1.2ghz for free, why not) and for a $150 processor, it would crush any $150CDN intel processor, being the I3 as it's the only one in the same price range. I play BF3 and BF4 with no issues at all, everything nearly on Ultra, my video card being the weaker link.
 
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AMD and Intel both make great CPUs. I own an I7 2600k and an 8350 and they both are great CPUs. If intel and AMD both tried to only improve what they now have you would lose the innovation that brought both these cpus to market. Intel and AMD are trying to see the future of computing. We gamers have a very narrow focus of what makes a great CPU and comprise a very small percentage of the overall market. As rstoledo says AMDs APUs are one thought as to what the future may bring. For most people that is all they need.Intel seems to be going for smaller size and lower power consumption.They are also trying to get their on board graphics to a higher level. In most instances both make products that will fill our expectations but bias against one or the other(fanboys, AMD and Intel)will always be there. Do your research, talk to others and then make your own decision on if Amd makes a CPU as good as Intel. If everything was the same, life would be boring.

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As some others have mentioned, the money isn't all there in high end desktop parts, rather in lower end parts that can be thrown into laptops etc. AMD APUs are great for that, and I'm sure they make more money out of it than their higher end stuff. It is a business after all.

Even so, the FX series can trade blows with the intels.
 

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