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November 28, 2013 10:28:16 AM

Hello all,

I humbly ask your expert advice on some upgrades that I want to do on my PC. I'm not an expert so forgive me if my naming conventions are wrong.

I want to get the best upgrades that my current motherboard and CPU can handle and I am willing to spend up to $400 but may consider $500 Total. I essentially want to beef up my current Pc for Gaming and Video Editing/Rendering plus some 3D apps. Some of my fave games are the big First Person Shooters like Crysis and COD. For Video Editing I like to use Adobe Premiere Pro, Edius and Davinci Resolve. For 3D I use Frameforge 3D and Poser for my film previs. I am thinking that upgrading the Video Card and Ram would be good but I would love to get more recommendations for other pieces if need be.

Current Configuration

Motherboard: GIGABYTE Socket 775 Model# GA-EP45T-UD3LR (rev. 1.3)
CPU: Intel Core2 Quad Q9550 @ 2.83 GHz
Memory: 6 GB Dual Channel DDR3 @666MHz (9-9-9-24) 3 Sticks (3 out 4 sockets used)
Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit
Direct X: 11
GPU: MSI NVIDIA Geforce 9800 GT 512 MB
Main Sytem Hard Drive: 500GB Seagate SATA
Additional Hard Drive: 500GB Seagate SATA
PSU: ULTRA 650W ATX Power Supply
ATX Case


Here is the Video Card that I am thinking of getting:

Refurbished: EVGA 03G-P4-1584-RB GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Video Card
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

EVGA 025-P3-1579-RB GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 2560MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...


I found these based on a search for PCIE 2.0, NVIDIA, GTX series 500. I also checked the dimensions of the cards either one should fit inside my case along with everything else.


Please let me know if you think these will work with my motherboard, etc.


I am also thinking of upgrading memory to 16gb using up all 4 Memory slots on the motherboard and go with 4 x 4GB DDR3 memory.

I am running Speedfan on my PC and it's telling me that my CPU and GPU are running high temperatures. I got an average heatsink on the CPU now but I want get some advice on better cooling option for that.

I am not looking to upgrade my hard drives just yet. I may decide later on to add an SSD as well as a Blue Ray recorder.

I would like to get 2 additional monitors too so I would need to make sure these system upgrades can support it

So there you have it. Please let me know what you think of my strategies and if they would fit my goals. Any thoughts and advice is most welcome.

Thank you so much!

Cheers,
Francisco
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November 28, 2013 10:57:20 AM

Firstly why were you looking for GTX 500 cards? They barely have any cores and very power hungry. Your PSU just margins it but could run it but honestly this is a horrible upgrade imo. For two monitors no this isn't gonna manage. Your CPU is gonna bottleneck you terribly. In conclusion your looking to upgrade too much for so little. You could upgrade all of these but it won't really be 'upgraded' more like just getting stuff.

You can upgrade your GPU just fine but you won't see a large margain in fps increase due to your processor.

Here's what I can suggest to do with $500
Upgrade your CPU, Mobo and GPU.

CPU: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $209
Mobo:http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $129
GPU: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $200

Total $529.

I do realise this is the bit over your price limit but this is the best you can get for your price range. The 7870 is said to be great in bf4 and that CPU shouldn't bottleneck you for future upgrades aswell. When you raise another $300 I suggest getting the R9 280x.

This is the best upgrades you can get. The 7870 will do 2 monitors maybe 3. Not sure if yor gonna game on both though, if so expect a decrease in performance. Your RAM should be upgraded later on quite soon also
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November 28, 2013 11:15:53 AM

BlankInsanity said:
Firstly why were you looking for GTX 500 cards? They barely have any cores and very power hungry. Your PSU just margins it but could run it but honestly this is a horrible upgrade imo. For two monitors no this isn't gonna manage. Your CPU is gonna bottleneck you terribly. In conclusion your looking to upgrade too much for so little. You could upgrade all of these but it won't really be 'upgraded' more like just getting stuff.

You can upgrade your GPU just fine but you won't see a large margain in fps increase due to your processor.

Here's what I can suggest to do with $500
Upgrade your CPU, Mobo and GPU.

CPU: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $209
Mobo:http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $129
GPU: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $200

Total $529.

I do realise this is the bit over your price limit but this is the best you can get for your price range. The 7870 is said to be great in bf4 and that CPU shouldn't bottleneck you for future upgrades aswell. When you raise another $300 I suggest getting the R9 280x.

This is the best upgrades you can get. The 7870 will do 2 monitors maybe 3. Not sure if yor gonna game on both though, if so expect a decrease in performance. Your RAM should be upgraded later on quite soon also


I agree with these upgrades but I would go with A gtx 660 instead of the 7870 as the perform in games almost the same but the cuda cores of the gtx 660 perform better for adobe products. http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
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November 29, 2013 12:44:39 PM

BlankInsanity said:
Firstly why were you looking for GTX 500 cards? They barely have any cores and very power hungry. Your PSU just margins it but could run it but honestly this is a horrible upgrade imo. For two monitors no this isn't gonna manage. Your CPU is gonna bottleneck you terribly. In conclusion your looking to upgrade too much for so little. You could upgrade all of these but it won't really be 'upgraded' more like just getting stuff.

You can upgrade your GPU just fine but you won't see a large margain in fps increase due to your processor.

Here's what I can suggest to do with $500
Upgrade your CPU, Mobo and GPU.

CPU: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $209
Mobo:http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $129
GPU: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $200

Total $529.

I do realise this is the bit over your price limit but this is the best you can get for your price range. The 7870 is said to be great in bf4 and that CPU shouldn't bottleneck you for future upgrades aswell. When you raise another $300 I suggest getting the R9 280x.

This is the best upgrades you can get. The 7870 will do 2 monitors maybe 3. Not sure if yor gonna game on both though, if so expect a decrease in performance. Your RAM should be upgraded later on quite soon also



Hi BlankInsanity,

Thank you for your honest opinion and helpful feedback on my strategies. I didn't realize that I was so limited with the motherboard and CPU that I had. I am taking your hardware recommendations into much consideration. Originally I was hoping that simply upgrading the card, ram, etc would show me a considerable boost for the money but thanks to you I am forced to consider rethinking my strategy. Rather than salvaging this current PC I may just build a new one without breaking the bank too much. I can always sell off this old one for cheap put the money towards some parts. Black Friday and Cyber monday are upon us so I may be in luck. I may put in a couple hundred dollars more toward a new build. That being said would you still recommend your suggested combination or would you suggest something else? I ultimately want to run 3X 23" Monitors so just getting a new build now makes sense. I can add the monitors soon afterwards. I plan to do both Video and Gaming with all 3 working. Anyways let me know your thoughts. Thanks for considering my budget and for thinking of future upgrades for me. That's really helpful.

Thanks so much,
Francisco
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November 29, 2013 12:46:54 PM

Jacob-Harris said:
BlankInsanity said:
Firstly why were you looking for GTX 500 cards? They barely have any cores and very power hungry. Your PSU just margins it but could run it but honestly this is a horrible upgrade imo. For two monitors no this isn't gonna manage. Your CPU is gonna bottleneck you terribly. In conclusion your looking to upgrade too much for so little. You could upgrade all of these but it won't really be 'upgraded' more like just getting stuff.

You can upgrade your GPU just fine but you won't see a large margain in fps increase due to your processor.

Here's what I can suggest to do with $500
Upgrade your CPU, Mobo and GPU.

CPU: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $209
Mobo:http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $129
GPU: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $200

Total $529.

I do realise this is the bit over your price limit but this is the best you can get for your price range. The 7870 is said to be great in bf4 and that CPU shouldn't bottleneck you for future upgrades aswell. When you raise another $300 I suggest getting the R9 280x.

This is the best upgrades you can get. The 7870 will do 2 monitors maybe 3. Not sure if yor gonna game on both though, if so expect a decrease in performance. Your RAM should be upgraded later on quite soon also


I agree with these upgrades but I would go with A gtx 660 instead of the 7870 as the perform in games almost the same but the cuda cores of the gtx 660 perform better for adobe products. http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...


Hi Jacob-Harris,

Thanks for chiming in and backing up BlankInsanity's suggestions. I do like your suggestion with sticking to Nvidia as I always hear about Premiere Pro's Mercury Engine really optimized when using NVIDIA. It's something to think about.

If I were to just a new build from scratch with a slightly higher budget, would you still recommend the same parts or go with something better?

Cheers,
Francisco

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November 29, 2013 3:44:16 PM

Sorry I haven't replied in a while, my internet service was cut off but is back on now.

Onto your questions. Building from scratch I wouldn't really suggest. But rather use parts from your computer to help build a new computer. Ill take a guess and say you raise your budget too ermm.. $700 then Ill add the parts I already suggested which leaves you with $171 to upgrade. Be wary though the 7870 performers better in gaming than the 660 due to its number of processors and bit size. Im changing out the mobo for a better one that is alot cheaper aswell


I've made a parts list that is roughly $700 which is what my guess is as when you said raising your budget. You could choose between the PSU or the RAM and remove one of them or keep both though the PSU isn't really required if that is surpassing your budget.

With 7870: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2bwqx
With 660: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2bwzA

A cheaper RAM would be this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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November 30, 2013 9:50:00 AM

BlankInsanity said:
Sorry I haven't replied in a while, my internet service was cut off but is back on now.

Onto your questions. Building from scratch I wouldn't really suggest. But rather use parts from your computer to help build a new computer. Ill take a guess and say you raise your budget too ermm.. $700 then Ill add the parts I already suggested which leaves you with $171 to upgrade. Be wary though the 7870 performers better in gaming than the 660 due to its number of processors and bit size. Im changing out the mobo for a better one that is alot cheaper aswell


I've made a parts list that is roughly $700 which is what my guess is as when you said raising your budget. You could choose between the PSU or the RAM and remove one of them or keep both though the PSU isn't really required if that is surpassing your budget.

With 7870: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2bwqx
With 660: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2bwzA

A cheaper RAM would be this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...




Thanks so much for your advice on this. It really helps ;) 

Cheers,
Dexter

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November 30, 2013 7:15:51 PM

Francisco416 said:
BlankInsanity said:
Sorry I haven't replied in a while, my internet service was cut off but is back on now.

Onto your questions. Building from scratch I wouldn't really suggest. But rather use parts from your computer to help build a new computer. Ill take a guess and say you raise your budget too ermm.. $700 then Ill add the parts I already suggested which leaves you with $171 to upgrade. Be wary though the 7870 performers better in gaming than the 660 due to its number of processors and bit size. Im changing out the mobo for a better one that is alot cheaper aswell


I've made a parts list that is roughly $700 which is what my guess is as when you said raising your budget. You could choose between the PSU or the RAM and remove one of them or keep both though the PSU isn't really required if that is surpassing your budget.

With 7870: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2bwqx
With 660: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2bwzA

A cheaper RAM would be this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...




Thanks so much for your advice on this. It really helps ;) 

Cheers,
Dexter



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