How to setup LAN around the house?

dzlove98

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I'm moving in couple days and the new house seems to have a Cat5e port in every room. So I'm wondering if I can have LAN connection in all the rooms? Basically connect the PC to one of the Cat5e ports and get LAN connection.

I found the box located in the 1st floor of the house and it seems like that's where all the Cat5e ports end up.

Here's the pic of the box:

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The house is already wired for Verizon FiOS, when the router arrives, how would I set it up so I can just plug the patch cable from PC to wall socket and get LAN connection in every room?
 
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You will need to put a switch in the closet where the phone board is located -- you can use a patch panel but you would still need a switch and don't have enough connections to make a panel worthwhile. A small 5 port would do since you can also use the LAN ports on the router, but I would use an 8 port just for future flexibility.

allennnn

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I think all of that is phone not Ethernet are you sure the sockets are rj45 Ethernet and not phone.

If its phone you would need to re wire them on both ends and get power for a switch in that little box.
 

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From what I can see of the connections on the board, I agree with allennn that it is probably multiple phone lines. Builders often use CAT5 to run phone lines. In the rooms do you actually have RJ-45 jacks in the wall and if you pull one out, are all 8 wires connected to the port or at least the green and orange pairs that actually are used for Ethernet?
 

dzlove98

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This may sound as dumb as it can be, but I plugged a Cat5e patch cable to the wall sockets and it fits.

I thought phone sockets (RJ11?) are smaller than Ethernet sockets (RJ45), which is why I thought they are wired for Ethernet. The house is relatively new, build in 2011-2012.

Some additional info:

The house has total of 6 wall plates, 5 of them has both RJ45/RJ11 (not sure which based on comments) and coax sockets, and 1 wall plate with RJ45/RJ11 socket only.

The box shown in the picture has a coax 6-splitter, 5 coax cables are connected to the OUT sockets with no cable attached to the 6th OUT socket (hence 5 wall plates with coax sockets). There's also a coax cable connected to the IN socket, and I believe that cable runs all the way outside of the house and it's connected to the FiOS ONT.

There are 7 rows on the left side of the box and all of them have Cat5e cables wired. I think 6 of them are for the RJ45/RJ11 wall sockets around the house, and 1 runs outside the house. I checked the outside Cat5e cable (blue cable), it seemed to be cut off by the Verizon FiOS technician when they first installed FiOS, and it's been reconnected to another white colored cable coming from the FiOS ONT (I assume it's Cat5e as well) and taped 2 wires together.
 

dzlove98

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So I moved in and had little bit of time to setup FiOS. Router is connected to FiOS ONT via a coax cable.

In theory, I can plug in a coax cable to the unused coax OUT connector and connect to FiOS that way, since FiOS is connected to the IN connector.

As for the Ethernet goes, I don't really know. All the wall plates are made by Leviton and it has a Home 5e label. I googled it and the result seems to tell me it's network connector but as others have pointed out, the board where all the cat5e cables ended up seems to be a telephone expansion board.

Either way, even if all wall plates are telephone jacks, I can cut the cable and use a RJ45 jack right?

As for the telephone expansion board, basically I can cut all the cable, buy a patch panel and punchdown the wires and I'm set for home LAN?

Edit: I can't unscrew the wall plate ATM to see how many wires are connected since it's been screwed dead tight.

 

dzlove98

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Okay I finally managed to crank open a wall plate and I believe it's wired for Ethernet, not phone.

Here's the picture I took just to make sure:

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If that's the case, then all that's left to do is connect the router to FiOS ONT using a coax cable, replace the telephone expansion board or whatever is shown in the first picture with a patch panel, and connect patch cables from the patch panel to the router.

When all is said and done, I should be able to plug in a patch cable to one of the wall plates in any floor and have LAN access?

Edit: RealBeast, I use VoIP and do not require phone connections.

Here are some additional info: I found the link to the telephone expansion board on amazon, I believe it's exactly the same one installed at my house.

http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-47609-F6-Telephone-Expansion-Locations/dp/B0018MPJSC

I am little confused about the RJ45 expansion port and its purpose, can anyone clarify? Thanks.
 

RealBeast

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You will need to put a switch in the closet where the phone board is located -- you can use a patch panel but you would still need a switch and don't have enough connections to make a panel worthwhile. A small 5 port would do since you can also use the LAN ports on the router, but I would use an 8 port just for future flexibility.
 
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The RJ45 expansion port is for linking multiple boards together.
Terminate one end of a cat5e/6 cable in the RJ45 expansion port of the first board then punch down the other end in the 'From Demarcation' section of the second board.

I also second the above post. Terminate the cables with RJ45 heads and connect into a small switch. Connect that switch to the router and you should be set. Patch panel isn't necessary.

 

dzlove98

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Thanks RealBeast and Casper1973.

The reason I like to get a patch panel instead of terminating all the cables is because it allows greater flexibility if I ever want to increase the cable length for whatever reason, I can simply plug a patch cable to the patch panel.

It seems like this Leviton company also makes various expansion boards that will fit into their enclosure. I found 2 expansion boards on their website that seems to work like a patch panel:

http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ProductDetail.jsp?partnumber=47603-C5&section=39700&minisite=10251

http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ProductDetail.jsp?partnumber=47609-EMP&section=39700&minisite=10251

Do they work? I am leaning toward the 2nd one but the description says it's telephone patching expansion and I don't see anywhere that you can do punch downs.

Thank you all for the answers, I really appreciate it.
 

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If the end in the rooms is 568A, wire the heads in the closet the same, HERE is a wire map for 568A male connectors.
 

dzlove98

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Thanks RealBeast, you have been a great help.

I went with http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ProductDetail.jsp?partnumber=47603-C5&section=39700&minisite=10251 since it was available @ Home Depot and I couldn't wait to order a proper patch panel online.

Each time I punched down a cable, I would plug a patch cable to the router, go to a wall socket and plug a patch cable to a PC and test the connection. It all seemed fine but I soon found out that I could not get any internet connection when I have multiple cables plugged to the router.

After much hassle I realized that I could only have 1 connection regardless which wall socket I use. If I use 2 or more sockets, none of the PC will have internet connection. After shutting down the router and power it back again, the LED light on the router Internet would turn yellow and I had to call Verizon to make the light go green.

I returned the Leviton product thinking it's faulty and decided to try your method of terminating the cable ends and use a switch. This time I made sure that I could plug multiple cables to the switch and still get internet on every PC and I did.

I thought I was finally done but apparently not. This morning the internet did not work again and I had to call Verizon, and they told me a neat trick to make the Internet LED light turn green. Shortly after I got back from work, the internet was not working again. Turn off and turn on the router yields a yellow light again and I had to use the trick Verizon tech told me to fix the problem.

So I don't really know what exactly is the problem here. I use a gigabit switch, with 6 cables connected to it and another 1 cable connected to router. Out the 6 cables, 3 are connected to gigabit devices, 1 connected to VoIP phone, and other 2 not connected to any devices. However, the router is a 10/100 Mb as I'm waiting for the new gigabit router to arrive.

According to the Verizon tech, the yellow light for Internet on the router means that there's internet coming to the house but it's not been communicated properly. So what exactly is the problem? The cable, the switch, or the router? Is it because I have too many cables/devices connected to the switch and therefore confusing the router in the process?
 

RealBeast

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The problem is likely a cabling issue -- you must go through each step and check everything. Do you have a cable/Ethernet line tester like THIS ONE?

You need to test each line from the wall to the cabinet to insure that it is properly wired.

From there it is just making simple connections to the switch.