NetComm NB604N-QoS help

taimur_111 · Nov 28, 2013

Hi Everyone,

I have been searching for past couple of months for how to setup a QoS on my router for games. Usually my internet is shared at home, so anyone who opens a youtube video or any streaming (no one uses torrent during day time), I get massive lags and hate it. I have been reading about QoS lately but can't come to a point on how to start.
I read this article for help and came to know about DD WRT (I have no idea what that is) which leads to install it on my router some how.
http://www.tested.com/tech/2175-how-to-easily-set-up-router-qos-for-voip-file-sharing-and-gaming/

Please anyone teach me how to do this, its driving me crazy :S

bill001g · Nov 29, 2013

The QoS that device offers will accomplish nothing. Pretty much it can mark packets which the ISP will just reset to 0 as soon as they get it. Even if it had some ability to prioritize traffic it can only do it outbound (ie upload) and it is highly likely your problem is inbound (ie download)

The page you linked it a bunch of bull crap. It assumes that outbound traffic somehow limits the traffic you receive which is completely false.

The only true solution is to have the ISP limit the traffic since they are the ones making the choice on what to throw away. You cannot somehow create a packet the ISP has already destroyed.

There is a tricky configuration you can do with some advanced firmware images (dd-wrt is one) that allows you to put hard limits on both inbound and outbound traffic. It is based on theory that if you discard even more traffic of the type you do not want it the error recovery mechanize built into the TCP protocols will slow down. Does not always work though.

Unfortunately for you DD-WRT is not a option. Because there are issues getting open source drivers for DSL there are very few routers that have DSL that there is a third party firmware.

Only option you are going to have is to run your DSL router in bridge mode and buy another router that has the advanced QoS (high end ASUS and TP-link do) or get one you can load dd-wrt on.

Still be warned a fancy QoS can limit youtube and netflicks and such but torrents in many cases will respond to errors by opening even more sessions rather than falling back.

taimur_111 · Nov 29, 2013

bill001g :

The QoS that device offers will accomplish nothing. Pretty much it can mark packets which the ISP will just reset to 0 as soon as they get it. Even if it had some ability to prioritize traffic it can only do it outbound (ie upload) and it is highly likely your problem is inbound (ie download)

The page you linked it a bunch of bull crap. It assumes that outbound traffic somehow limits the traffic you receive which is completely false.

The only true solution is to have the ISP limit the traffic since they are the ones making the choice on what to throw away. You cannot somehow create a packet the ISP has already destroyed.

There is a tricky configuration you can do with some advanced firmware images (dd-wrt is one) that allows you to put hard limits on both inbound and outbound traffic. It is based on theory that if you discard even more traffic of the type you do not want it the error recovery mechanize built into the TCP protocols will slow down. Does not always work though.

Unfortunately for you DD-WRT is not a option. Because there are issues getting open source drivers for DSL there are very few routers that have DSL that there is a third party firmware.

Only option you are going to have is to run your DSL router in bridge mode and buy another router that has the advanced QoS (high end ASUS and TP-link do) or get one you can load dd-wrt on.

Still be warned a fancy QoS can limit youtube and netflicks and such but torrents in many cases will respond to errors by opening even more sessions rather than falling back.

Thanks for your reply. I guess I won't go for QoS then... Is there any other solution for this?

bill001g · Nov 29, 2013

Use firewall filters and block all but traffic from your ip address is the only sure way. It does to a point work to block some of the main torrent sites but it is a never ending game to try to keep up with the list of sites that contain the main seeds.

Torrent in addition to being used for mostly illegal purposes tends to be the worst bandwidth offending software you can find. The people that wrote it were extremely selfish in their view of the internet. They designed it to get around almost any restriction you can place on it and use as much bandwidth as possible. Seems the only thing that stops some people is when they find out that the RIAA does really exist and will track you down if you steal too much stuff. Once they see one of those letters with their name on it all the bandwidth issues go away.

You really only have 2 option you convince other people to share nicely with you or you go nuclear and lock the router down.

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